your view is consistent with that of every defensive trainer we have come across.
What is the Best Home Defense Gun? 8 Tactical Experts Share Their Take
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You can read what you want to read.
I am guessing I would rather error on the safe side, then trust what these guys can teach anyone in any of their "week long" classes......once. You really going to trust that, these people can train you to their standard, a standard you are willing to bet your life and your family lives on this. I am not, and think it is not good advice any way you slice it. Personally I think if someone broke into their house it is bad judgement to leave wife and child alone even with a gun to go "hunt the bad guy". Me sitting in a room, wife behind me is where I want to be. 911 I am in the bathroom with a hand gun, if you have an officer come to that door and try to open it tell him to say this XYZ then I will open the door, if he does not say that and he knocks the door open I am going to open fire....simple as that.
But sadly that is not very macho.
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Gunsite was able to take an unsure, no confidence, single mother in her 20's with no training at all, and was able to turn her into a confident and trained shooter.
Your plan is your own, but please don't push it to others as we are all situation dependent and state laws different. I have no duty to retreat, your advice for me would set me up for failure. No. Thank. You.
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12 gauge Pump - with a supply :
00 Buckshot
#4 Buckshot
Rifled Slug
Mini or reduced recoil shells ( 12ga. can be loud when fired in a bedroom)
Small game and birdshot for when you want to hunt or shoot skeet .
I didn't like the AR15 in 1968 and I still have no use for it .
12 gauge pump beats it seven ways to Sunday .
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Rifled Slug
Mini or reduced recoil shells ( 12ga. can be loud when fired in a bedroom)
Small game and birdshot for when you want to hunt or shoot skeet .
I didn't like the AR15 in 1968 and I still have no use for it .
12 gauge pump beats it seven ways to Sunday .
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I read what I had seen.
I presented something to think about from actual SME. But you are showing a yearning to be also valued in "expertise" here, like a weird form of reversed Munchausen. At any rate, you can opine as much as you'd like but your 'advice" is not something that I've found to be beneficial to the conversation as it's trying to be contrary to the signal being put out.
You are as always, free to do you. And with that same token, I too am free to do me. Which is also...simple as that.
The fact is there aren't any "home invasion" experts with lots of experience. It's not typically something that happens on a regular basis to a guy. However fighting is fighting and what these guys have is bucket loads of experience fighting in small spaces. There isn't much difference between a bad guy running into a room that you are in in Iraq or your living room in the US.
Many of these former operators worked for 3 letter agencies after they got out of the military where situational awareness and carrying discreetly was paramount and being attacked on the street or their hotel rooms was a very real possibility. They don't know everything and don't claim to but I generally listen when they speak about fighting and I pay attention to what they carry or don't carry and consider its relevance to my situation.
Many of these former operators worked for 3 letter agencies after they got out of the military where situational awareness and carrying discreetly was paramount and being attacked on the street or their hotel rooms was a very real possibility. They don't know everything and don't claim to but I generally listen when they speak about fighting and I pay attention to what they carry or don't carry and consider its relevance to my situation.
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I am not going to argue with you. Sorry, but I'm not here to argue.
Did I or did not I mention planning for failures?
The issue under discussion was on the relative need or effectiveness of lights on a handgun.
I happen to use iron sight rather than electronic optics.
And I can assure you that I'm unlikely to be a marine or on a warrant team.
I'm talking about home defense. I'm talking about MY home defense.
I have tried to point out what I chose to do and provide my reasoning.
As I said, I have tried to build in the capabilities to respond to home self defense, and in multiple layers.
I have pre-planned exit routes if I have to evacuate and honestly that's a far more likely threat than home invasion.
I have a stock pile of food and water and medicines to cover shorter term scarcity and both UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supplies) for short term electrical interruptions on mission critical devices and a whole house generator (had to really scrounge and scruff and suffer for a couple years to add that layer) for longer term interruptions (we've had several of those so far and in those cases my front porch looked like a Geek Squad basement with cell phones and laptops charging off the power strips I put out for the neighbors).
I have no intention of ever trying to prevent theft or looting.
The only real difference I can see so far is that I can't see any reason for putting a light on any of my handguns.
Absolutely. I've trained with Rapier and Lamb as well as others of the same caliber. These guys are completely legit. The thing is none of them would ever say that their chosen firearm was the best or that their way was the only way and if someone could show them a better way they would be all over it. These guys aren't even teaching people to hunt bad guys anyways. Their training philosophies are heavily oriented towards avoidance and practical ways to survive an armed encounter.
That's enough of whatever this was. Some of y'all need to reread the few rules we have. This is not ARFCOM or any of the other firearms forums, this is THR. We are the High Road and we will behave like adults and not be petulant trolls or we will find our privileges revoked. As my mom would say, if the shoe fits wear it...
We must allow that there is no ONE right way and that others might have a way that works better for them. Arguing for the sake of arguing is not going to be tolerated.
We must allow that there is no ONE right way and that others might have a way that works better for them. Arguing for the sake of arguing is not going to be tolerated.
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