Decapping pin torque?

Rule3 said:
I have at least 10 or so Lee Die sets and never ever had a issue with the deprimer pin hold. Maybe popped up twice on some crimped primers
Even stuck a case a few times and removed it using the correct Lee instructions
Use the correct pliers as mention above and you should have no issues. I don't understand all the "mods"?? The decapper clamp is tapered, do not remove it, loosen only
I know you are not talking about a stuck case but here is tightening it,

LEE makes the best depriming pins out there! They are made from roller bearings, one would have to try really really hard to break one, yet some folks do seem to do it??

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yea sure, except they used the wrong end on that 1/2" combination wrench, should have used the box end.
jmo,
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Tilos said:
yea sure, except they used the wrong end on that 1/2" combination wrench, should have used the box end.
jmo,
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Gads they need to edit their video:)

Better than some posts I have seen were some Bozo used pliers, channel locks or vise grips!:scrutiny:
 
I got tired of the pin in my universal decapping die slipping so I took it apart, degreased both the pin and the collet, roughed up the pin with emory cloth and torqued the snot out of it!

I know, I re-engineered the original Lee design! I have a pretty good feel for the effort that it takes to deprime a case and I'm careful not to force anything. I've broken one pin in 10's of thousands of cases!

Honestly I never thought of just tapping it back down with a hammer! ;)
 
but it was actually very likely a problem with the particular brand of brass that I was using and its off center flash holes
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So it did have off center flash holes?
Or just suspected off center flash holes?

Bummer if it is 1/3 of your brass and a bunch are off center.

One way or another I hope we all were helpful.

At least we made it 54 posts with no one saying if you had a Dillon die instead of the Lee die you wouldn't have had any problems.
:rofl:
 
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Dudedog said:
So it did have off center flash holes?
Or just suspected off center flash holes?

Bummer if it is 1/3 of your brass and a bunch are off center.

One way or another I hope we all were helpful.

At least we made it 54 posts with no one saying if you had a Dillon die instead of the Lee die you wouldn't have had any problems.
:rofl:
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haha! No blue vs red comments! I have not had time to investigate it yet; so it was a supposition regarding the flash holes of the Fiocchi brass. And yes, Fiocchi is about 1/3 of my 32ACP collection. Today I used a nylon tipped mallet to tap the decapping pin back down, just to try it because I never thought of it before it was suggested here!! So funny.

Anyway, short term, as soon as I can make the time this week, I am going to take 50 or 100 or so cases and deprime them with my Lee Universal Decapping Die. I’ll inspect the brass by brand and look at flash holes immediately afterwards. Since folks seem to be interested in the results, I’ll make the time to let everyone know here. Thanks for your help and your interest!
 
Radom Guy said:
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haha! No blue vs red comments! I have not had time to investigate it yet; so it was a supposition regarding the flash holes of the Fiocchi brass. And yes, Fiocchi is about 1/3 of my 32ACP collection. Today I used a nylon tipped mallet to tap the decapping pin back down, just to try it because I never thought of it before it was suggested here!! So funny.

Anyway, short term, as soon as I can make the time this week, I am going to take 50 or 100 or so cases and deprime them with my Lee Universal Decapping Die. I’ll inspect the brass by brand and look at flash holes immediately afterwards. Since folks seem to be interested in the results, I’ll make the time to let everyone know here. Thanks for your help and your interest!
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Thanks. Very interesting topic!
 
Radom Guy said:
No, thanks go to you and all the other helpful folks here, instead of me!
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I dare say that, somewhere down the road, the question you posed originally (definitely something similar) will be asked again.

Your findings will help solve the dilemma and quite possibly save someone else the "legwork" or, at the very least, give them a starting point.
 
Y-T71 said:
I dare say that, somewhere down the road, the question you posed originally (definitely something similar) will be asked again.

Your findings will help solve the dilemma and quite possibly save someone else the "legwork" or, at the very least, give them a starting point.
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I gave the torque specs. way back in post #14
"Torque spec. is 5 PBIS":
5 pounds before it snaps.
5 pounds before it strips.
5 pounds before it squeaks.
(Your Choice.)
That should take care of "somewhere down the road."

I have also seen it expressed this way:
"Torque spec. is 5 PBS":
5 pounds before snapage.
5 pounds before strippage.
5 pounds before squeakage.
Just semantics though
I'll stop now,
:uhoh:
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Yes, you're right.

I should have said that "I already learned something from this thread".

I had no idea there was a spec for this; why would I? it's never happened to me but, it happened to somebody so, I think any future info OP provides will be valuable to somebody.
 
Now I understand.....So, it's NOT the decaping pin that's the problem, it's the decaping pin SHAFT that is sliding up inside the decaping COLLET that screws into the sizing die.

Remove the shaft and put it on a hard metal surface and take an old flat file and put the edge on the shaft and tap it smartly as you roll the shaft. Do it at several places up and down the shaft. Kind of like poor man's knurling.

Remember, old file and use eye protection.
 
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If you want it to break vs slide up, get any other die or just weld the pin to the collet.

They are designed to slide up, unlike any other mfg., if they encounter an object and forces that could break the pin.
 
Off center flash holes from Aguila and Fiocchi (GFL headstamp), which makes up about 2/3 of my brass collection in 32 ACP. Ha ha!

Good job folks, you are correct!

it’s not much trouble to get the primers out with my universal priming die, so I guess that’s what I will be doing with all of my 32 ACP brass before I use it. Seems to be the path of least resistance (no pun intended!).

Thanks again!

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Radom Guy said:
Off center flash holes from Aguila and Fiocchi, which makes up about 2/3 of my brass collection in 32 ACP. Ha ha!

Good job folks, you are correct!

it’s not much trouble to get the primers out with my universal priming die, so I guess that’s what I will be doing with all of my 32 ACP brass before I use it. Seems to be the path of least resistance (no pun intended!).

Thanks again!

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@GeoDudeFlorida might say off center flash holes in GFL brass is a design feature, but seriously…

We discussed such holes quite a while back and I posted a picture of 30 or so GFL 45acp with holes all over the map. In my experience I have never had an off center hole cause problems with decapping pins nor any other problems for that matter. I load em shoot ‘em like any other.

Maybe it’s because pistol cases are different or good luck or karma, but to me it’s a cosmetic feature and nothing more.
 
Radom Guy said:
Off center flash holes from Aguila and Fiocchi, which makes up about 2/3 of my brass collection in 32 ACP. Ha ha!

Good job folks, you are correct!

it’s not much trouble to get the primers out with my universal priming die, so I guess that’s what I will be doing with all of my 32 ACP brass before I use it. Seems to be the path of least resistance (no pun intended!).

Thanks again!

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By the way, not all of my Fiocchi (GFL) and Aguila brass have off center flash holes, but definitely a significant amount. So again, problem solved with the universal priming die.

The way I look at it, it will be less work to decap separately before sizing because it will ultimately be less work and less distraction than the interruption of the loading process. And it’s still WAY cheaper than buying factory 32 ACP ammo at current prices! (And I enjoy reloading, of course)

Thanks again, folks!
 
Radom Guy said:
By the way, not all of my Fiocchi (GFL) and Aguila brass have off center flash holes, but definitely a significant amount. So again, problem solved with the universal priming die.

The way I look at it, it will be less work to decap separately before sizing because it will ultimately be less work and less distraction than the interruption of the loading process. And it’s still WAY cheaper than buying factory 32 ACP ammo at current prices! (And I enjoy reloading, of course)

Thanks again, folks!
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I found a .32 case in my range pickups from yesterday and can’t imagine loading something that small without new glasses:) But you say all that needs saying—you enjoy reloading.
 
CQB45ACP said:
I found a .32 case in my range pickups from yesterday and can’t imagine loading something that small without new glasses:) But you say all that needs saying—you enjoy reloading.
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Sometimes my eyes trick me between the 32acp and 22LR brass! Definitely small, yes! But shooting this little caliber is so much fun with the right pistol. I feel like I am cheating or something because the recoil is so minuscule. GREAT range fun!
 
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