I may actually buy a Glock

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As I have stated numerous times here (and elsewhere) that Glock ergonomics and my hands were just not compatible. To me it was always like I was holding onto a 2x4 with a barrel attached to it. Well today I was at my LGS, I had purchased a used RIA 1911 A1 a while back and when they did inventory they found the original case with the factory mag in it. I picked it up today and of course was checking out some of their current offerings. Decided to try again to see how a Glock felt so Dave handed me a G19, sure enough it felt terrible in my hand but then he handed me a G43......... Being a single stack the ergos were not too bad at all, I was actually kind of surprised, I wasn't expecting that.
So my question to myself is do I really need another pistol after forking out almost $2k last month for 3 milsurps which I need to pay off. I can get the G43 for under $400 but that would add to my credit balance which I'm not sure I want to do.

I also saw a very nice Arisaka rifle at my local pawn shop for $599. Not sure what type it is, it had springs holding the front and rear bands on but that's all I really remember, I didn't look all that closely.
 
Of course my other issue is I already have a Taurus G2C which I love and it also has a manual safety which I also love. Granted the trigger is less than stellar and the grip is similar to the G43 but it's just as reliable and is nicer looking than the Glock.
 
I'm like you in that I don't like the ergos on Glocks. Interested dad's collection of Glocks and got rid of them all but the 43x. Still not a fan but the 43x was at least possible in it's ergos. Why get. The 43 if you have the G2C? Get the Arisaka if you feel that debt isn't a big issue. They ain't making any more and Glocks are a dime a dozen.
 
HPJeep said:
I'm like you in that I don't like the ergos on Glocks. Interested dad's collection of Glocks and got rid of them all but the 43x. Still not a fan but the 43x was at least possible in it's ergos. Why get. The 43 if you have the G2C? Get the Arisaka if you feel that debt isn't a big issue. They ain't making any more and Glocks are a dime a dozen.
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I'm thinking it's more of a case of wantitis then anything else which is why I'm debating it instead of jumping right in. I've just never owned a Glock and am somewhat interested to see if they really live up to the hype which is the "get it" half of my internal debate.
What's funny is Dave, the employee I was talking with carries a G43 but his all time favorite is the Browning Hi-Power.
 
Well, I wouldn't, but then, I can't stand glocks for a variety of reasons, not the least of which us how nasty the company is to other businesses.

They're also crappy suppressor hosts, and I suppress all the things, so that's another strike against the ugly, soulless, uncomfortable things.
 
I like Glocks, so I say go for it, if you want/need/desire. As mentioned, I wouldn't buy it on credit but that's me.
 
I'm starting to regret my one and only Glock purchase. I bought a 29 a few months ago with the intention of replacing my .357 revolver with a light, compact auto that held the maximum number of rounds allowed in my state, and which - paired with a dot - would allow for hits at 50 yards should a Greenwood Mall type incident arise.

The trigger is simply so bad that it makes anything much past 25 yards very, very difficult. The fan boys say "A real man doesn't need a good trigger" which makes me think they can't hit anything under any circumstance ( :neener: ) while the aftermarket triggers all made the gun unreliable.

If I had it to do over again I would have done my research and chosen something with a useable trigger.
 
Used Glocks are everywhere and cheap. If you don't like it you can get your money back.

That was my plan with my 1st Glock. I knew I'd not like it and would later sell it. But after giving it an honest chance decided they are pretty good pistols. I still don't like them, but shoot them as well, if not better, than anything else. And you can't beat them for the money.

Never seen anyone who gave them a real chance who didn't come to the same conclusion. The weird ergonomics are actually by design and contribute to the shootability.
 
There are three camps for Glocks, you either love them, hate them or a small minority respect them.

I don't understand why there is so many who despise the trigger; spend time at the range and the differences are nil. But to each their own.

I respect Glock for not chasing superfluous looks, design, etc. They put their costs into high quality parts and refine their proven design and it is in my opinion that each generation has improved (except the generations that gave us finger grooves, but that is personal preference), albeit sometimes with small minor changes. They are not going to be the innovators of design and function on a year to year basis, there are plenty of other manufacturers making money off consumers for those attributes, its refreshing to see a company just do what they do and do it well.

The Gen5 trigger is a notable improvement to me over the previous Gen's, the marksman barrel I don't perceive much difference there.

Sounds exactly what I want for a personal defense firearm.

I've got a lot of range guns of other manufacturers that I enjoy shooting, even better than my Glocks; but for IWB duty it'll be a Glock.
 
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kje54 said:
Of course my other issue is I already have a Taurus G2C which I love and it also has a manual safety which I also love. Granted the trigger is less than stellar and the grip is similar to the G43 but it's just as reliable and is nicer looking than the Glock.
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Get yourself a $30 trigger from "Keep_Tinkering" on Ebay and you'll love your G2C even more. Gets rid of the dingus that Taurus did a poor job with. I think I went with the slight curve version. Just be careful on the install that you don't lose any small parts.
 
BreechFace said:
There are three camps for Glocks, you either love them, hate them or a small minority respect them.

I don't understand why there is so many who despise the trigger; spend time at the range and the differences are nil. But to each their own.

I respect Glock for not chasing superfluous looks, design, etc. They put their costs into high quality parts and refine their proven design and it is in my opinion that each generation has improved (except the generations that gave us finger grooves, but that is personal preference), albeit sometimes with small minor changes. They are not going to be the innovators of design and function on a year to year basis, there are plenty of other manufacturers making money of consumers for those attributes, its refreshing to see a company just do what they do and do it well.

The Gen5 trigger is a notable improvement to me over the previous Gen's, the marksman barrel I don't perceive much difference there.

Sounds exactly what I want for a personal defense firearm.

I've got a lot of range guns of other manufacturers that I enjoy shooting, even better than my Glocks; but for IWB duty it'll be a Glock.
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Pretty much the same post as I was about to make but you did a better job of it. :D
 
I have a G43. It's okay. It goes bang and has decent accuracy for its size.

I also have a G26. It's basically a double-stack G43.

I used to have a G2c. It was nice. In the end I traded it towards something else because I realized it was basically the same pistol as my G26, but with a slightly worse trigger. (I even used the same holsters for them.)

So does the OP want a single-stack G2c with a slightly better trigger? That's pretty much what the G43 is.

Glocks are fine. I own several of them. They're similar to most other polymer service pistols.

My G43 is pictured below. It's one of the nice semiauto carry pistols that sits in my safe because I carry a revolver instead like a Neanderthal. :)

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2 reasons.
1 they still use that stupid octagon rifling that doesn't play well with cast lead.
2 everyone I know that buys one the first thing they do is start swapping out or modifying parts. Usually barrel swap, and/or trigger mod, slide swap or send the slide off to be modified somehow and they change the back plate, not sure why.

I don't see the point in buying a glock when you can buy one with the mods already done, no octagon rifling for less than a glock made by glock.
 
IMO the G43 does not live up to Glock’s reliability reputation. The G19 and G17 tend to run any ammo all day long. My 43 required some tinkering (ejector honing) to run reliably and I only carry it with one specific brand and type of ammo. It’s one of my least favorite Glocks but I still like it better than any other little gun I’ve shot so I keep it for deep concealment. I’ve got several hundred rounds through my 43 with my “tested” ammo with no failures so I now trust it for carry.

I’ve got several other bone stock Glocks that completely lived up to the reliability hype. One is a dirty as hell dedicated range G17 that never gets cleaned.

My point is, if you don’t really like Glocks much in the first place, the G43 probably won’t be that great. Strangely though, lot’s of non Glock people tend to really like the 43x. ymmv
 
I have found my 43 will bite the end of my trigger finger under recoil at times. I replaced the trigger shoe with a Vickers Tactical flat trigger and it’s much better. It is a micro 9 with a 2-finger grip, so recoil is rather snappy and not fun for an afternoon of range relaxation.

IMHO the best feeling Glocks in my hands are my 48/43X. The single stack helps, as they seem to have figured out the grip without that old style, blocky 2x4 feel. The Gen 5 Glock 45/19X is the best one for full sized Glocks. Mine have a nicer feel (and a much better trigger shoe) than the Gen 3/4 grip feel of my older models.

Again, the 43 is a bit of a challenge to shoot well, if you get one hopefully you like it. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
N555 said:
2 reasons.
1 they still use that stupid octagon rifling that doesn't play well with cast lead.
2 everyone I know that buys one the first thing they do is start swapping out or modifying parts. Usually barrel swap, and/or trigger mod, slide swap or send the slide off to be modified somehow and they change the back plate, not sure why.

I don't see the point in buying a glock when you can buy one with the mods already done, no octagon rifling for less than a glock made by glock.
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1. Powdercoating lead bullets is a thing.
2. All of that list happens to a great extent to a lot of other brands, it just happens a lot more to Glocks because of sheer amount of 3rd party support, and people love to tinker whether it makes it better or a boat anchor.

If a non-competition oriented citizen is buying a Glock and changing out triggers, barrels, modifying parts, it is my opinion that they are doing these things because marketing and forums state they need to.

I've seen my fair share of people that can't shoot for crap, so they throw money at the tool while maintaining the portly nature of their trigger finger.
 
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