44 mag 240 grain keith swc Missouri bullet

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

Hello, first time posting here and new to all this...but I'm looking for load data for the Missouri bullet company 240 swc keith bullets for my ruger redhawk 44 magnum

rperyam · May 17, 2023

Welcome to the forum. I don’t load for the 44 Mag, but I do buy and use Missouri Bullets in other calibers, they are excellent. Others will help you with that load.

mdi · May 17, 2023

Welcome! Not being snarky but I have a rule (My Rule #1) about posting/using any load data on any forum. So, one of the best reloading manuals is the Lyman Reloading Handbook, 51st Edition. On page 449 there are two choices for a load for you. First for the 240 "Keith" (Lyman 421421) at 245 gr. also a listing for a 240 gr. RNFP (Lyman 429667). I have loaded many, many of both these bullets using a lot of Unique, Universal, Blue Dot and 2400. Do a load work up beginning with starting loads and work up if necessary...

EricBu · May 17, 2023

That bullet combination has more load data in manuals, online, everywhere, than probably any other load. There are loads from mild to wild. You'll have to figure out what you want from it....because you can make a 1000 fps fluff load, to a 1400 fps hammer of god load with that bullet, and there is load data out there for every popular powder ever produced, from the fast pistol powders, to the slowest pistol powders. You'll have to be more specific on what you expect or are looking for to get more information. For powder puff loads, I'll use a mid (7 or so grains) TiteGroup load, for hand of god loads I'll use either AA9/Heavy Pistol or H110.

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

EricBu said:
That bullet combination has more load data in manuals, online, everywhere, than probably any other load. There are loads from mild to wild. You'll have to figure out what you want from it....because you can make a 1000 fps fluff load, to a 1400 fps hammer of god load with that bullet, and there is load data out there for every popular powder ever produced, from the fast pistol powders, to the slowest pistol powders. You'll have to be more specific on what you expect or are looking for to get more information. For powder puff loads, I'll use a mid (7 or so grains) TiteGroup load, for hand of god loads I'll use either AA9/Heavy Pistol or H110.

I have tite group and h110 where should I start with the powder and what length to set the bullet depth?

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

mdi said:
Welcome! Not being snarky but I have a rule (My Rule #1) about posting/using any load data on any forum. So, one of the best reloading manuals is the Lyman Reloading Handbook, 51st Edition. On page 449 there are two choices for a load for you. First for the 240 "Keith" (Lyman 421421) at 245 gr. also a listing for a 240 gr. RNFP (Lyman 429667). I have loaded many, many of both these bullets using a lot of Unique, Universal, Blue Dot and 2400. Do a load work up beginning with starting loads and work up if necessary...

I have this load data, where should i start?

Lee Q. Loader · May 17, 2023

44magbuster said:
I have this load data, where should i start?

Start with Unique if you have it. Try a mild, but extremely popular load of 8.0 grns. If you don't have Unique, use the Titegroup as noted above.
As to seating depth, that bullet and all SWC bullets, have a crimp groove, seat the bullet so it crimps into the deepest part of the groove. No need for calipers.
In my opinion you should save the H110 until you have tried a milder load. H110 loads from min to max are very heavy.

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

Lee Q. Loader said:
Start with Unique if you have it. Try a mild, but extremely popular load of 8.0 grns. If you don't have Unique, use the Titegroup as noted above.
As to seating depth, that bullet and all SWC bullets, have a crimp groove, seat the bullet so it crimps into the deepest part of the groove. No need for calipers.
In my opinion you should save the H110 until you have tried a milder load. H110 loads from min to max are very heavy.

What would you consider the max for titegroup?

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

44magbuster said:
What would you consider the max for titegroup?

Also I might have some enforcer powder

Milt1 · May 17, 2023

It does sound like you are new to reloading. My advice is to buy a manual that provides the steps for reloading and/or get with a friend that has been reloading for some time. Requesting loads on any forum, in place of a reloading manual, can be downright dangerous.

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

Milt1 said:
It does sound like you are new to reloading. My advice is to buy a manual that provides the steps for reloading and/or get with a friend that has been reloading for some time. Requesting loads on any forum, in place of a reloading manual, can be downright dangerous.

I have manuals none of them list load data for the 240g swc keith style bullets I'd rather ask others opinions on it than guess at load data for different bullet designs

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

GeoDudeFlorida · May 17, 2023

44magbuster said:
Hello, first time posting here and new to all this...but I'm looking for load data for the Missouri bullet company 240 swc keith bullets for my ruger redhawk 44 magnum

Do you have pistol powder? What kind(s)?
Do you have large pistol primers? What kind(s)?
What kind of shooting are you looking to do? Just target, hunting, silhouette, competition? Something else?

Did you buy a manual yet? Which ones?
Got a chronograph?
The more information we have the easier it is to answer.

Lee Q. Loader · May 17, 2023

Use the data for the 240 grain bullet you just posted.

AJC1 · May 17, 2023

44magbuster said:
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Make a dummy round with your bullet and compare it to the 240 Lyman listed. I prefer slower powders to very fast ones for new loads. For mag loads blue dot, #9 and 4227 are easy to work with. Enforcer and 4100 are the same so that data is in the western powders manual. Here is the data you need from there.

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

Lee Q. Loader said:
Use the data for the 240 grain bullet you just posted.

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

I also have that data

AJC1 · May 17, 2023

44magbuster said:
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Lee doesn't make powder or bullets, and don't test... start with the start load of enforcer and load a ladder.... I prefer .2 increments which here is 1% so it's a solid test procedure.

Lee Q. Loader · May 17, 2023

44magbuster said:
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I'm looking at the velocities for the 240 grain bullet in this pic, and I have to say that they all look very wrong.

One of my loads for a 240 SWC is 10.0 grains of Herco and I get 1120fps from a 5.5" barrel. Their min charge is 10.5 grains for 958fps??? That can't be right.
Anyway, the charge amounts looks correct, just the velocities look messed up.

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

AJC1 said:
Make a dummy round with your bullet and compare it to the 240 Lyman listed. I prefer slower powders to very fast ones for new loads. For mag loads blue dot, #9 and 4227 are easy to work with. Enforcer and 4100 are the same so that data is in the western powders manual. Here is the data you need from there.View attachment 1151975

Thank you

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

I have cci 300 primers and winchester wlp for standard or magnum loads
For powder I have h110,titegroup,enforcer,accurate2015,accurate#11fs
And 240g keith swc hitek coated bullets

PistoleroWadcutterGANG · May 17, 2023

Since microsoft and windows changed their file sharing permission to something weird I have to do this the hard way.

HERE YA GO: LYMAN CAST HANDBOOK #3

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

Lee Q. Loader said:
Use the data for the 240 grain bullet you just posted.

So start with 9g of titegroup and ladder load upto 10g ?

Targa · May 17, 2023

23 grains of H110 seated and crimped at the cannelure, BAM, you have factory matching .44mag…

44magbuster · May 17, 2023

Targa said:
23 grains of H110 seated and crimped at the cannelure, BAM, you have factory matching .44mag…

Just from loading 357 with h110 I know that ain't gonna be a factory load

44 mag 240 grain keith swc Missouri bullet

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