Billy in the movie Predator had an M16 with a pump shotgun attached!

There is such a thing, although I've only ever seen a shorter version mounted to an M-4. The one the military uses is made by Knights Armanent and is called the MasterKey, that should clue you in to it's intended use

Edit: found a pic

KAC charges out the ass for them, too.

Too bad no one else makes them. I want one. May have to make my own...

Too bad no one else makes them

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Well, Remington makes one: http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh17-e.htm
Also, C-More Systems makes this: http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh28-e.htm

One of the reasons he, "Ain't afraid of NO man!!"

I did this in '86..I personally bought the mounts, and had the unit armorer attach a Mossberg 500 to my issue A2. As I remember, the mount cost $44.00, the Mossy $110, and a carton of Winstons got it installed. LT raised heck, SGT told him to urinate up a para cord .

Would this count as an AOW or a short-barreled shotgun?

an 870, an AR,,, a little duct tape...

Would this count as an AOW or a short-barreled shotgun?

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Depends on the origin of the shotgun. If it never had a buttstock, AOW. If it had a buttstock at anytime, SBS.

Well, Remington makes one: http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh17-e.htm
Also, C-More Systems makes this: http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh28-e.htm

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But they both look like ****.

Would this count as an AOW or a short-barreled shotgun?

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Unfortunately, the Supremes, in 1939, were unable to take judicial notice that a SBS was used as a militia weapon. Wonder what they would say about this?

those world gun links are awful awful AWFUL photo shops. but yea masterkeys are out there. my buddy's a fister, says he got to train on one. they use some weird load for em, its like a heavy powder charge and the concussion breaks the lock or something like that. seeing as how its a breaching tool only that would make sense, dont wanna have anything bouncing around back at you. . . .

Kfranz:
Its an SBS, the buttstock of the AR counts as the shotgun's buttstock when they're attached, so it cant be an AOW.

Kharn

Billy

One of the scennes he with out the attached shotgun kind of posing .2 seconds later he is moving thru the jungle with the attachment,but I was told years paST IT DID INDEED EXSIST SOMEWHERE.

The photo on world.guns.ru isn't a photoshop, it's straight from Remington's military page.



http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/870mcs.htm

That has GOT to be one front heavy SOB, especially when fully loaded. But it sure puts out the lead I'd imagine.

That has GOT to be one front heavy SOB, especially when fully loaded. But it sure puts out the lead I'd imagine.

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They are. Picked one up at a gun show years ago, not only nose heavy but heavy throughout.

the XM-26 was undergoing field trials in Afghanistan last year:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IAV/is_2_92/ai_114783367

A new lightweight shotgun system (LSS) developed by the Soldier Battle Lab is currently being fielded by U.S. Soldiers serving in Afghanistan. About 200 of the XM-26 shotgun systems were delivered to 10th Mountain Division units in Kandahar and Bagram in November 2003.


The 10th Mountain will field the lightest variation of the 12-gauge shotgun systems, which attaches under the M4 modular weapons system (MWS), and weighs 2 pounds, 11 ounces, which is less than the M203 grenade launcher.


The system is a five-round, box-magazine fed, manually operated shotgun. It uses a straight push-pull type bolt action that can be switched for either left or right-handed users. The attachment variation is 16.5 inches in length and uses the host weapon's sights. It is capable of firing lethal, nonlethal and breaching rounds.


The shotgun stand-alone version is converted from the attachable version by adding a pistol grip and a butt stock. The stand alone weighs 4 pounds, 3 ounces and is 24 inches long, collapsed. This version also has a reversible charging handle and is capable of firing lethal, nonlethal and breaching rounds.


The original system was a prototype for proof of concept, said Mike Barnes, chief of the Battle Lab's Robotics Division. The one being fielded applied lessons learned from the first iterations of testing to make them more reliable in the field.


During the operational inspections and test firing, the Battle Lab, with assistance from two 10th Mountain NCOs fired nearly 20,000 00 Buckshot, M-1030 breaching, M-1012 and M-1013 nonlethal rounds through the 199 weapons that were going to be sent to Afghanistan to ensure no Soldier would be issued a defective or otherwise ineffective LSS, according to Soldier Battle Lab Project Officer Michael Kennedy.


Battle Lab personnel also deployed to Afghanistan to sign over the weapons and gave comprehensive instruction on aspects of the XM-26 to include capabilities, limitations, features, zeroing, disassembly and maintenance to units receiving the LSS. Classroom instruction as well as ranges were held in both Kandahar and Bagram to familiarize the Soldiers with their new weapons.


Even after the Battle Lab staff returned to Fort Benning, the deployed Soldiers can still contact the lab with questions and problems and are encouraged to send feedback on the weapons system.


"Out of the 200 weapons, I've fired about 50 of them, and I'm confident in the system," said Staff Sergeant William Partin, an instructor at the 10th Mountain's Light Fighter School and one of the two NCOs who helped test the weapon system.


"I think it's a great weapon system, being able to attach to the M-4 and as a stand-alone," he said. "I like that it's light. This is the lightest weapon I've carried in the Army besides a pistol. It weighs just about nothing."


Soldiers can use the shotgun as an all-round tool in urban environment, Barnes said. They can use the nonlethal and breaching capabilities, and the big advantage is that they don't have to sling their primary weapon to do it.


"Think about what's going on in the world right now," said Staff Sergeant Tito Zelada, a Light Fighter School instructor who also tested the LSS. "You have combatants and noncombatants together in a crowd, and (the nonlethal capability) is a good way to neutralize them, whether or not they are armed."


Numerous units in the field expressed the need for a tool like this, Barnes said. "I think it will get a lot of use."


"I thought the Remington 870--what we teach with--was sufficient, but this gives us the upper hand on the way we breach," Partin said. "It's more accessible and easier than having to switch weapons."


The creation of the LSS and its fielding is due to the efforts of Battle Lab staff. In 1997, the concept for the LSS was almost abandoned after the development community was convinced the concept would not work. The Battle Lab wasn't as easily swayed and continued to investigate the potential of an accessory shotgun and its military utility. The lab staff's persistence and hard work finally paid off in 2003 when the XM-26 underwent operational inspections and acceptance testing in September and October at Fort Benning's Buckner Range.


The XM-26 LSS will provide Soldiers with an extremely versatile weapon that allows them to use lethal, nonlethal and breaching rounds and give them the agility to defeat a wide range of threats.


Editor's Note: Information for this article was compiled from articles by Specialist Brian Trapp of Fort Benning's The Bayonet newspaper, and Major Roy C. Manauis and Michael Kennedy of the Soldier Battle Lab.

Jonathan Ciener of Coco Beach makes one that attaches to the bayonet lug so there is no need for rails. It comes in either 18" or NFA lengths.

heres a xm-26 snap from the Shotshow a few years back