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I just saw the unedited Iraq helicopter video, and it has infuriated me beyond belief.

For those who are not aware, yesterday Iraqi insurgents shot down a civilian helicopter, and murdered the lone survivor of the crash. The video was explicit and horrible, but this is what’s going on in Iraq and I feel it is my duty to witness it. The helicopter is shot down with some kind of ground to air shoulder fire missile, the terrorists approach the wreckage, film the charred corpses, and gloat about their attack. Then they find a wounded crew member in a blue jumpsuit. He them to “give him a hand,†they let him get on his feet, tell him to “go†and then shoot him in the back with an AK after he stumbles a few paces. Then, at close range, they unload about 10 shots into the body, screaming “Allah awackbah!â€

When the video ended I punched a hole in the wall. Some people are calling these guys “freedom fighters,†I call them murdering cowards. They are cruel, sadistic, and disgusting. They brutally kill the people who are trying to rebuild their sorry excuse for a sandbox of a country.

The hostage slaying videos affected me, but none like this. The bastards trick this guy into thinking he’s to be let go and then shoot him in the back. These “freedom fighters†need to be hunted down and killed.

I’m sorry if my language here is simplistic or visceral, but I’m very angry right now. I need to sit with my anger and contemplate it.

If anybody can understand what I’m feeling right now, its yall.
 
I've been convinced for a while now that they wont let a single one of us go if they get the chance to kill us.
So I figure that if I was in any of these people's positions I'd have to go down swinging.

:(
 
thanks,

i have a small tribute page on my website for Blackwater guys, which started w/ the bodies of them being strung up on a bridge in Fallujah.

i will download it and put that video on my website for people to remember what is really going on in Iraq.

i did take a class at Blackwater so i do have a small bit of attachment when i read about them in the news.
 
Could you give me a link to your website, I'd like to view it.

When I first saw the bodies strung up on that bridge, it was in like November of 2003 or something, I smashed my keyboard in a rage.

I don't know what, if anything, I can do about these insurgents short of joining the military, which may be in the cards after I finish UT, I haven't decided yet.

WARNING: NO NOT CLICK THE ABOVE LINK IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE VIOLENT IMAGERY!
 
Excellent website.

I just saw the video where our boys waste that fool with the RPG. Thank you, I needed that right about now. It's good to see what happens to this trash when they go up against REAL soldiers.

I've never been to the Austin SAXET, just the one in San Antonio at the Airport Convention center. I didn't even know there was one in Austin. Looks like I missed it this month, and I'm going back home for the summer. I'll definitely be there in August, though.
 
San Antonio is a larger show than Austin. that is the first weekend of every month.

Austin moved locations to N. Lamar between Rundberg and Braker. that is the 3rd weekend of every month.

im at both shows. i dont have alot of room in San Antonio (only 2 tables) but in Austin i have 7 so i can put out more stuff.

anyway glad to hear you liked my webpage.
 
As sickening as it is I think every adult American should see these videos and the beheading videos. It gives you a clear vision of what these thugs would like to do to all people who don't bow to their thinking. One of the beheading videos starts out with the groups symbol. Which Is an open book(the Koran) enveloping the earth. No doubt thats their desires if they could get away with it. I feel for our brothers and sisters over in the middle east, yet I'm glad we're fighting them there than here. BTW go to the Austin show. It's pretty good and the ammo is cheap there. Picked up a Ruger SRH .454 last weekend. Don't worry those killers are being hunted down as we speak.
 
As sickening as it is I think every adult American should see these videos and the beheading videos. It gives you a clear vision of what these thugs would like to do to all people who don't bow to their thinking.
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I agree.

I don't see the point of putting these videos on the nightly news and then editing them. If you are going to show the face of war, show it how it really is...horrible and greusome. It's a dis-service to show it any other way.
 
Whoa whoa whoa, before we start espousing religious cleansings, from the iraqi point of view they shot down a helicopter flying foreign mercenary soldiers.

And angry mobs are angry mobs, wherever they be, you don't want to be on the wrong end of one. So you get the idea that trying to start an angry mob on this board might be a tad hypocritical?
 
clash of cultures

We are engaged in a war in a country that still remembers when Alexander rolled on through heading east.

They remember Xerses heading west.

They have waited out the Crusades, the Roman Empire and the Mongols.
 
Joejoe,Foreign mercenaries! That's crap, these honorable men were helping rebuild Iraq. If not pouring the cement they definetly were protecting those that do. If I was an Iraqi citizen I would be incensed at your statement, most of the Iraqi's hate these thugs just like you do. People there are mostly like us. Trying to make a living to support their families, care for their children and elders and wanting to go to bed not worrying about some terrorist thugs cutting their head off. If you noticed these thugs are killing more Iraqi citizens than anyone else. Yes, most might not have the same religion or culture as us but I bet they are just as furious as we would be to have terrorists driving trucks filled with explosives PURPOSELY into schools full of CHILDREN. :fire:
 
I can't post my true feelings and reactions because the moderators would delete my post and lecture me for my "intolerance."

Suffice it to say that I'd love to get my hands on one of those bastids. Just one.... :fire:
 
That's crap, these honorable men were helping rebuild Iraq
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Umm, wouldn't need rebuilding if the U.S. and some of these same guys hadn't helped destroy the country and its infrastructure in the first place. We are the main insurgents in Iraq.

Tell me again why we are there, and how our being there reconciles with the U.S. Constitution.

Before I get flamed here, I'm sorry the guys are dead, but they knew what they were getting into. Everybody in Iraq that isn't an Iraqi is an invader. We've been busy either directly or indirectly in killing the peoples of the middle east for decades. The 9-11 attacks would probably never have occurred had we minded our own business in the first place.

Was Saddam a bad guy? Absolutely. But don't forget who helped him strengthen his stanglehold on that country.

Even the countries over there who profess to be our allies would just as soon slit our throats as look at us.
 
SIOP wrote:

"Umm, wouldn't need rebuilding if the U.S. and some of these same guys hadn't helped destroy the country and its infrastructure in the first place. We are the main insurgents in Iraq. "

And then, SIOP also wrote:

"We've been busy either directly or indirectly in killing the peoples of the middle east for decades. The 9-11 attacks would probably never have occurred had we minded our own business in the first place."

:rolleyes:


Okay, SIOP, fess up.

How long have you been smoking Noam Chomsky's crack pipe?

hillbilly
 
I Agree with longhorn on one thing, it's wrong to pull out now. It may have been wrong to go in, but it's sure as hell wrong to pull out early. It may be wrong to draft their constitution with emphasis on copyright legislation and corporate stuff, but it's better than leaving them with nothing. It may be questionable to build a cell-phone network incompatible with any other in the hemisphere, but again, better than nothing.

We're not saints, but sticking it out and finishing the job of rebuilding is definately the right thing to do.
 
Umm, wouldn't need rebuilding if the U.S. and some of these same guys hadn't helped destroy the country and its infrastructure in the first place. We are the main insurgents in Iraq.
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Sir, you need to check your facts. Due to Saddam's neglect of infrastructure...both maintenance and the building of new facitlities, we are not trying to rebuild infrastructure as much as build it in the first place. What was there was old, incompetently built to begin with, and incompetently maintained. The generating plants to give one example. They survived but are darn near impossible to keep running.

For your second statement please go to dictionary.com and look up the definition of insurgent. If you wish to communicate your ideas accurately then precision in language is necessary. Thank you.
 
The war is over, the Iraqi people voted in a legitimate government, it's a done deal.

These "insurgents" are just bandits, murderers, and they kill for the sheer pleasure of killing. To dress them up as some kind of "freedom fighter", when they're not fighting for anything except chaos, is rediculous.
 
Okay, SIOP, fess up.

How long have you been smoking Noam Chomsky's crack pipe?
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Since I retired from the U.S. military after 20 years.


Sir, you need to check your facts. Due to Saddam's neglect of infrastructure...both maintenance and the building of new facitlities, we are not trying to rebuild infrastructure as much as build it in the first place. What was there was old, incompetently built to begin with, and incompetently maintained. The generating plants to give one example. They survived but are darn near impossible to keep running.
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Ahhh, that's why thousands of our guys had to die. To build their infrastructure for them in the first place. Thanks for clarifying that for me. And what part of the Constitution was that in?

For your second statement please go to dictionary.com and look up the definition of insurgent. If you wish to communicate your ideas accurately then precision in language is necessary. Thank you.
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From dictionary.com:


insurgent

adj : in opposition to a civil authority or government [syn: seditious, subversive] n 1: a person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the constituted authority (especially in the hope of improving conditions) [syn: insurrectionist, freedom fighter, rebel]

Yep, sounds just like us. What was your point?
 
To say all insurgents are just thugs and murders is a mistake.

Some of these fellows drive cars filled with explosives into a target. They believe in what they are doing to the point of sacrificeing thier own lives.

Are some of these targets by our definition innocent civilian types? yes, however the guy who made the sacrifice is still just as dead.

Do not flame me for being pro terrorist. I will tell you I have spent time there and am going back. I have seen first hand what is going on. I just think it is a mistake to not acknowledge that some of them are highly motivated and well trained, not all, but some.
I have seen what has happened when folks just say "they are all thugs, you should not have a problem"
 
I agree that the rationale for entering Iraq was faulty.

Two years later this hardly matters, that debate is over. Should Donald Rumsfeld have been fired right along side Tenant? Sure. But that's the past. Now we have an American presence rebuilding this country, and the men on that chopper WERE civilian contractors, security or otherwise.

Watch the video. They toy with the guy. It's murder, why else wouldn't they have executed him as soon as they found him.
 
Whoa whoa whoa, before we start espousing religious cleansings, from the iraqi point of view they shot down a helicopter flying foreign mercenary soldiers.
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First, you're the only one who has brought up religious clensing.

Second, these terrorists are very likely not Iraqi's but foreign mercenaries themselves. Abu Musab al-Zarkawi, the leader of these animals, is a Jordanian.

These animals are deeply hated by most Iraqi Kurds and Shiites, who regularly sign up for the Iraqi Army and Police in greater numbers after each attack.

Third, these Blackhawk Security folks do not meet the definition of Merceneries. They provide security, that's it. No offensive operations at all AFAIK.
 
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