Guy On The Way To The Range Gets Carjacked. Six Guns + Ammo Gone.

DonNikmare · Apr 29, 2005

This was on local news in DFW last night...

The victim stopped by a Home Depot on the way to the range to pick up some staples to hang his targets with. In the Home Depot parking lot, he was approached by two guys one of whoom pointed a gun at him (gang style/sideways) and demanded money. Then the gun holding guy jumped in the victim's truck and drove off taking six guns + the range ammo with him.

They said the victim was an avid hunter so all the guns were likely long guns although they didn't specify so in the story.

He said he probably would not replace the guns as he felt so bad about "putting them on the streets".

I tried googling and searching for this on the wires but came up with nothing.

Nik

R.H. Lee · Apr 29, 2005

Can you say "Condition White"?

Smoke · Apr 29, 2005

Saw that on the news myself. They should file footage of a large pile of ammo as if that was representative of what was stolen. Made it look like the guy had a few thousand rounds for each of the six guns.

Morons.

But of course this was on the same station that later in the evening did a piece on folks hunting bigfoot in the Piney Woods of east Texas.

Smoke

DigMe · Apr 29, 2005

But of course this was on the same station that later in the evening did a piece on folks hunting bigfoot in the Piney Woods of east Texas.

What's worse is how they'd been building up to that story too...like it's "the big one" or something.

brad cook

Sylvilagus Aquaticus · Apr 29, 2005

I missed this on the news last night, but I'll go along with a concerned 'tsk, tsk, tsk' and full agreement that the poor schmuck was in 'condition white'. It bites to be him. Hopefully his vehicle will be recovered relatively unmolested without the items being discovered by the cretins who took it...but who can say what the ones who next find the truck will remove.

I would expect better of our local media, though. Which channel was it?

Smoke, everyone knows Archer County is prime Bigfoot territory, not East Texas.

Regards,
Rabbit.

Delmar · Apr 29, 2005

Stories like that make me glad of my decision to CCW a pistol whenever I go to the range. Ammo and other weapons get locked in separate places, but of course, the best defense has always been awareness!

I also CCW returning from the range-kinda silly maybe, but who knows who has been looking over your wares while you're having fun?

Jamie45 · Apr 30, 2005

I made this observation during my Navy days: Nuclear Weapons, cash and small arms always traveled under armed guard.

Works for me!

DonNikmare · Apr 30, 2005

"Which channel was it?" I'm not sure but I know I was watching channel 4/fox prior to the news so it may have been on the same channel during the news.

It seems like a terrible nightmare! One tends to feel more secure with guns in the car but they are no good when not on and not ready to go.

It's stories like these that 1st brought me to the point of wanting to own a firearm for home protection and have now brought me to the point of realizing I should get a CHL.

I'm not looking to start a debate here, just need some clarifiaction...would he have been justified in responding with deadly force given that they wanted his $ and car?
It would seem to me he would have as was confronted with deadly force ie gun being pointed at him with the implied threat of killing him but I'm just not 100% sure that this is the right way to look at it.

Nik

mrhuckins · Apr 30, 2005

Let me get this straight

Was bigfoot involved in the robbery?

Randy in Arizona · Apr 30, 2005

Nik,

On shooting a goblin - -

Think of it as doing your Christian Duty * to put an end to his Sinful Ways

* (Or whatever religion or body of philosophy you adhere to)

IZinterrogator · Apr 30, 2005

would he have been justified in responding with deadly force given that they wanted his $ and car?
It would seem to me he would have as was confronted with deadly force ie gun being pointed at him with the implied threat of killing him but I'm just not 100% sure

In Texas, it would be perfectly legal. The use of a deadly weapon by the criminals would make it a clean shoot.

Byron Quick · Apr 30, 2005

I also CCW returning from the range-kinda silly maybe, but who knows who has been looking over your wares while you're having fun?

I once had to make decisions such as this. Complicated my life. One day I got tired of the onerous vicious decison cycle. Not I jjust carry all the time. Doing that assures that I will never need a handgun and not have one...which could ruin your entire life.

It would seem to me he would have as was confronted with deadly force ie gun being pointed at him with the implied threat of killing him but I'm just not 100% sure that this is the right way to look at it.

What other way of looking at it were you considering? Freelance socialism?

It would have been a good shoot in Georgia. About the only places that I know of where it would not have been considered legal are places where having a defensive handgun would be illegal. NYC and other people's republics.

HSMITH · Apr 30, 2005

CCW on the way to and from the range is a smart thing........

Bear Gulch · Apr 30, 2005

Heck, at the range I pop the bolts out and have them in a separate locked tackle box. The one for the rifle I am shooting goes down range with me when I change paper. There was an incident near Boise years ago where some creeps pulled up at the range and shot a fellow with his own rifle while he was changing his target.

MikeIsaj · Apr 30, 2005

Anytime I move weapons, I carry. I also don't ever leave the weapons unattended. The home depot trip would have to be a seperate and inconvenient move.

Carry is especially important coming from the range. No one knows what I carry in the bag out of my house. It's a no-brainer what's in the bag on the way out of the range.

Byron Quick · Apr 30, 2005

Heck, at the range I pop the bolts out and have them in a separate locked tackle box. The one for the rifle I am shooting goes down range with me when I change paper. There was an incident near Boise years ago where some creeps pulled up at the range and shot a fellow with his own rifle while he was changing his target.

Taking the bolts out is a good idea. I suppose I lack sufficient trust in my fellow man but when I go downrange; I walk with a loaded rifle...just in case some creeps join the party.

ny32182 · Apr 30, 2005

It would definitely have been a good shoot if he had had such an opportunity, but even if he WAS carrying at the time, he would have to have a death wish to try to draw and fire before the guy with a gun already in his face has a chance to pull the trigger.

I doubt a concealed handgun would have kept this guy's truck from being taken...

dev_null · Apr 30, 2005

Think of it as doing your Christian Duty * to put an end to his Sinful Ways

* (Or whatever religion or body of philosophy you adhere to)

I don't think that'll work for the Jains. Those are the people who drink through a screen or piece of cloth so they don't accidentally hurt (swallow) a gnat. :neener:

Gunsnrovers · Apr 30, 2005

Even in the PRK, you would have been justified to use deadly force here. Once the bad guy pulls a gun on you, it's pretty clear that your life is in danger. Of course, as CCW's are hens teeth here, it's a moot point. :fire:

It's easy to use hindsight and scream "condition white" when these things come up, but the reality is that at some point anyone of us can be taken down. More then a few pro's have been taken out by rank amatuers.

Glocker · Apr 30, 2005

WOW !!!!............ for the love of "GLOCK " ....condition white :what:

chris in va · Apr 30, 2005

Look guys, just by reading the original post I can tell you the guy probably didn't have any options, carrying or not. Once a gun is pointed at you, there's no outrunning a bullet. I guess in TX though you can shoot a guy stealing your car and 6 rifles...

Guys feel comfortable at Home Depot/Lowes and other 'guy' places like that. Of COURSE he was in condition white. No one can fault him for not expecting an assault at a place like that.

Just my observation.

wasrjoe · Apr 30, 2005

One should always be aware, but doubly so when transporting something they value. (Guns, children, whatever it may be.)

LiquidTension · Apr 30, 2005

You'd better believe that I'd have shot out the tires of my own vehicle before letting some scum drive off with it AND my guns. There's one application of a CWP right there :scrutiny:

nipprdog · Apr 30, 2005

I also don't ever leave the weapons unattended. The home depot trip would have to be a seperate and inconvenient move.

ditto.

cxm · Apr 30, 2005

Felony Stupid

Can anyone say "felony stupid?"

Utterly amazing...

V/r

Chuck

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