You lucky people in Colorado.

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Wow! Deja vu all over again...

This from Today's Pueblo Chieftain. Seems Kansas WANTS Colorado.

Tom McAvoy is The Chieftain's research director and a member of the editorial board

"Kansas claimed a good portion of water from Colorado in the Arkansas River Compact case. Now, some Kansans want it all - virtually all of the Colorado landscape west to the summit of the Rocky Mountains.

On Monday, we received a news release from the Kansas Committee for Reclaiming What is Rightfully Ours (RETAKE), an ad hoc group with the stated goal of restoring that part of Colorado once claimed by Kansas.

The whimsical release arrived on Colorado Day, in time for our 129th anniversary of statehood, which was granted Aug. 1, 1876. It was four months late for an April Fools' Day joke.

A little history: Kansas became a state on Jan. 29, 1861, at which time the federal government took the western third of the former Kansas Territory to add to the new Colorado Territory.

"Our researchers have strong reason to believe that the handover in 1861 was an illegal act that will not stand up under close court scrutiny," said RETAKE chairwoman Deb Goodrich, who also is publisher of the committee's sponsor, the Kansas Journal of Military History.

We suspect her of perpetrating a Colorado Day spoof. Let's play along.

Kansas did sue Colorado over Arkansas River flows at the state line in 1985. Kansas sought $322 million at first but ended up getting less than $35 million. Undaunted, RETAKE wants more - all the cities and towns fed by the Arkansas River, as well as Denver and the rest of the prosperous northern Front Range outside our basin.

The target date for retaking Colorado is Jan. 29, 2011, the 150th anniversary of Kansas statehood.

"There will also be some name changes," Goodrich quipped. "Colorado Springs, Colorado, after 2011 will be known as Kansas Springs, Kansas."

There may be something in this for Coloradans. As part of Kansas, Colorado Springs - er, Kansas Springs - could demand water flows awarded to Kansas in the Arkansas River Compact case.

So could everyone else, even Aurora, which takes Arkansas River water even though the growing Denver suburb isn't even in the same basin.

One troubling thought: Would we have to drop the pronunciation Arkansaw and adopt the Arkansaz preferred by those stubborn Kansans?

A more pertinent question: Who really has claim to Colorado?

Although most of eastern Colorado was in the Kansas Territory from 1854-61, it actually came to the United States by way of the Louisiana Purchase of 1803. Land south of the Arkansas River and east of the Continental Divide was in the New Mexico Territory for a while and before that was claimed by the short-lived Republic of Texas and the country of Mexico.

At one point, the Nebraska Territory claimed northeastern Colorado and the Utah Territory, all of the region west of the Rockies.

Actually, indigenous American-Indians' occupancy of the entire North American continent predates any European notions of political boundaries and sovereignty in the New World.

We are what we are today. Colorado is larger than Kansas in many ways. We have 4.6 million people spread over 103,718 square miles; Kansas has 2.7 million people and 82,282 square miles. We could go on.

"Bloody Kansas" was coined for the pre-Civil War violence that erupted between free state and slave state forces there. The Free Soilers prevailed and some went on to settle what became Colorado. We're lucky how things turned out."
 
You're right about the population explosion here. I passed through Fort Collins on vacation in 1972. Went home, called the movers, and headed back. I think I was one of the 'early' ones to move here. Since about 1980 the population has doubled. Now I want to go somwhere smaller.
(You think they'll all follow me again??)


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Because they're all F*****G here!!!
 
I went to all the trouble to move here to GET AWAY FROM Kansas.


I'll be darned if I'm going to let those Jayhawks have any control here :fire:


Kansas and their hard left socialist Governess can kiss my well armed, concealed carrying behind.

I may have been born there, but by God I'm a Coloradian now!

I feel about the same about my place of birth as Oleg feels about his :p
 
I'll help form the Colorado Springs Militia to drive those Jayhawk devils back to the flatlands where they belong.

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Since we have thoroughly hijacked this thread and pretty much trashed Kansas along the way, I decided Kansas needed a voice too. I checked on our buddy Sisco.

"Last activity May 25, 2005"

I just emailed him a link.

Stand by...
 
In sooth, subarban colorado is turning into a dememnted form of california.

They brought drugs (Considering everyone i know who does drugs here started out with some 'friend' or another who moved from california) they brought liberal values...

Time for me to move up to the mountains.

Meh, i think well manage to get by allright though.
 
Geez, ease up a little fellas............

38Mike ( stuck in Wichita.....)
I too was stuck in Wichita ... for 33 years!

Then one day I discovered that they don't actually have anyone guarding the place so its pretty easy to slip out :p

I find that the only things I miss from there are Taqueria El Paisa and DiFazio's.
 
Since we have thoroughly hijacked this thread and pretty much trashed Kansas along the way, I decided Kansas needed a voice too. I checked on our buddy Sisco.

OK, I'm here. Been gone a while but Larry got my attention so here we go!
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Let me start by saying I was born and raised in SW Kansas, been living out here fifty some years with a 4 year gap while the US Navy showed me the world. Saw some nices places but didn't have much use for the rest of the world so I came back home.

Now:
Trees? We don't need no stinkin' trees. They get in the way. Hard to cut wheat around trees. Seen one tree you've seen 'em all. Speaking of wheat, next time you buy a loaf of bread say "Thank you Kansas!" and next time I eat a Rocky Ford Cantelope I'll say "Thank you Colorado!"

Water? Colorado gets three lakes, Kansas gets a dry river bed. That's OK, I don't like fishing anyway and the water would cause problems with four wheeling and dirt biking in the river bed.

Send us some dirt? You already did! The sandhills south of here are what's left your mountains. Royal Gorge wouldn't be a gorge if the Arkansas river didn't excavate it and dump it on us. Come and get it if ya want it back.
BTW: Arkansas River: once it's crossed our state line it is not pronounced "Ar- Kan-Saw" but "R-Kansas"

Flat & desolate? Ever been to Eastern Colorado? Makes this place look like paradise. That's why we didn't want it back in the 1800's. Too bad we didn't keep that territory though, "Denver Kansas" has a nice ring to it!

All that said, when I want to get out of Dodge for a few days I head to Colorado. I like the mountains and love the views. Never go there in the winter though 'cause I hate snow.
Yeah, our Governess sucks but I didn't vote for her and hopefully we'll show her the door soon.
I also dislike the fact that I can't carry concealed if I want. Pisses me off that I can't buy a six pack on Sunday too. But rather than bail out I think I'll stick around try to make some changes.

Ok, off the soapbox now. If y'all ever want to meet some real nice folks, visit the country's largest beef packing plant, swim in the worlds largest free outdoor concrete municipal swimming pool, visit the largest zoo in Kansas and while you're there see the worlds largest hair ball, give me a call!
Just bring your own beer if it's on a Sunday and bring along a wheelbarrow or two to take some of this damn sand back with you!
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Hell ... can't buy beer or CARS on Sunday here :p


Worse habit I had to break when I moved here from Kansas was the whole R-Kansas river thing ... people here look at you funny if you don't say Are-can-saw :scrutiny:
 
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