What's a good, small 4wd in Diesel?

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Or, why isn't there a turbodiesel Jeep in the us?
Looking for a diesel vehicle that isn't completely worthless in the snowy Catskill Mtns.
I live in VA Beach, and I'm driving VW TDI vehicles, but can't find a goos small SUV/Truck in Diesel. Help?
Steve.
 
I'm a TDI fan too. The Toureg (sp?) seems like an excellent vehicle, if you can stomach the price.

I read somewhere about a guy whose wife sold her TDI Toureg and ended up with a Jeep 4x4 diesel, though it was one of those that looks like it's made on an econobox frame. Found it -- Jeep Liberty can be had with a diesel.
 
Not here in the US . . :(

I'd love to have a Toyota Hi-lux (Toyota Tacoma here) with the 2.4TD. I rent them all the time when I'm traveling in central/south america. Seem to be utterly reliable and really good on the fuel consumption.

TOYOTA . . . . ARE YOU LISTENING????
 
Mid 80's HJ60 and BJ60 and BJ70 all Toyotas.

BJ70 is the smallest.

All will be imports from Canada (I think)
 
When I have a bit more money I'd like to buy just this kind of car and start making my own biodiesel. Great way to save money and also be prepared for SHTF. Maybe I'll have to look for something bigger :(.
 
Those who are more mechanically inclined might look into pulling the gasoline engine from a desired 4x4 and replacing it with a diesel. Several manufacturers make small diesel engines.

Lot of work, though, and you may want to check your local regulations about emissions first.
 
I did not even think about switching the gas engine with a diesel- it would be great to have my blazer with a diesel, considering it eats alternators and the diesel would get me home in the event of a battery discharge once I cranked it...
 
Apparently the Diesel Jeep Liberty has done well enough that Jeep will offer the Grand Cherokee in diesel from in the US soon (the Grand is already offered in europe with one). If they continue with that, then we may see one in the next Wrangler too (crossed fingers).
Other than the Liberty though, there is the VW Tourag, but VERY pricey. Most people aren't buying that vehicle for the engine I don't think, image is more like it. You could get a gas v6 engined SUV with plenty of power and decent mileage for half as much as a VW.

PS. I recently read the Diesel Toureg (toe rag?) is not currently being sold in the US because of problems passing emissions standards; however they are supposed to be working out the kinks and it will be on sale again.
 
Avenger29,
Is that a full size Blazer? They offered those (and Subs) with diesels for awhile, might not be a very hard switch.
 
Jeep is considering offering a truck again. They showed a concept truck called the Gladiator earlier this year and if it hits production it will be offered with the same 4 cylinder CRD diesel in the Liberty.

Response from dealers and customers was pretty overwhelming. No word from Jeep, but things look good. :)
 
I've read that VW is trying to bring in a V6 diesel to the toureg. There's been some spottings of it around CO. Seems like they're trying to get it to pass the new emissions comming in 2007 (?). b
 
I always thought it would be cool to take an older Unimog and swap out the engine for something that was still diesel, but more fuel efficient.
 
Ford is on again/off again with bringing out a diesel for F-150s/Expeditions. With gas prices so high and fuel efficiency a bigger concern, maybe one of the manufacturers will step up. The trick is offering a diesel engine for a reasonable cost in a truck. Getting the diesel option on a heavy duty truck costs so much more you would have to drive the truck hundreds of thousands of miles to make up for the price (which some do, but most don't). And diesel in the city fluctuates to as expensive as regular all the way up to premium gas prices.
 
My wife had the TDI Toureg and sold it. This is a sticky subject among VW owners, but to some and my wife was one, they have a peculiar odor that arises from the interior that is sickly. I could smell the odor and although it was unpleasant on a hot day, The ac would take care of it for me. the wife found she was getting nauseated on the ride to work, and anything longer was making her truely ill. It has something to do with the materials used in the interior and out gassing. to me it is the same crayola crayon smell.

The car itself is a gas. or was. A 5 litre V10 with over 300 hp and 550ft lbs of torque, beating ANYthing off the line was nearly a given. it got 25 mpg when she drove and it didn't break, it just went. But she could not stand the smell of it. we got a good price selling it, and paid for a new liberty. that has a mercedes common rail diesel. starts fast. gets good milage, does not smell. supposedly will idle for nine days on a tank of fuel. has a inverter in to run ac tools.

The problem with diesels in america is the lack of good quality fuel. they pass the emissions test, it is just with bacd fuel they soot up the air too much. get good quality diesel and they are cleaner than gas engines.

The best selling BMW in europe was a 2.7 liter diesel. plenty of go in town fst out on the Autobahn. new diesels have taken all of the cons out of them and just leave the pro's I now have two diesel jettas. my daughter is getting 50 mpg in an older one, my 2005 wagon will get up to 59 mpg on a hot day.
 
A lot of the really neat foreign made small desiels simply cannot be imported into this country due to emissions regulations. :(

along with all sorts of other cool stuff.
 
The Diesel Liberty is not available wherever California emission standards are in effect. It is available in 45 states only. Nice to drive with loads of torque.
Josh
 
To take that a step further it's a fuel issue.The sulphur content in domestic diesel is different than what the Europeans use.

On a similar note.It's my understanding that the only big rig diesel engines that comply w/the current emmisions standards are those made by Isuzu.The other manufacturers all pay a fine for every over the road engine sold.ex. The Gmc Topkick/Chevy Kodiak has either a 7.8L Isuzu or a 3126 HUEI Caterpillar engine.There is a $1500 fine passed along for the Caterpillar engine.The Isuzu has no fine.
 
When my wife and I buy our next vehicle it will probably be one of the new injected "euro-diesels" and burn biodiesel. Smells like french fries... :D
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