Swedish Teens Design anti-rape belt

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c_yeager said:
Before getting too indignint and frothy at the mouth I would consider for a moment that we are talking about a school project built by highschool children. Im not sure what you are expecting, but I give them credit for coming up with something off-the-wall enough to get it put in the newspaper, which imediatly makes this better than that stupid bridge I made with popsicle sticks.

That's what I was thinking. Sure, there may be a few problems, but when I was in school, I made mats out of defective belts from the local factory.

Also, part of confounding rapists, just like thieves, is to use a multitude of methods. Sure, there might be a simple counter to each method. But can you imagine what would happen if every woman picked at least one?

The guy would have to carry a pack for all the counters, and wear lvl IV body armor. Oh, and some of the nastier products can be used anally as well, so that's not a safe direction to take either. Which I'm all in favor off.
 
All of this is pure crapola

These devices, however painful, are an acceptance of victimization.

It misses the other fundamental evil of a rape: dignity.
The woman must still suffer the indignity of penetration.

IOW she has in fact been raped, and sufered that humiliating assault. The device didnt prevent rape at all. it only prevented the rapists' ejaculation.

These devices are simply "getting back" at her rapist AFTER the fact. It shows how dysfunctional the modern woman has become in believing what must be assumptions behind the decision to use this device:
1. The possibility of rape exists
2. You may be raped
3. overpowering you, the rapist will penetrate you which defines the act

numbers 1 & 2 are of course true. Number 3 though implies inevitability that she will be overpowered; that the woman can not and/or SHOULD NOT do anything about it and can only react after penetration has occured. A woman who choses this means of 'defense' has already resigned herself to accepting the rape and that her only option left is to lacerate his member while being raped.

That assumption is made by a woman who has already given up on defending her basic human dignity and is the worst possible loss of perspective and of what is right and wrong.

This is a mostly male forum, to be sure, and I know the women here are most likely to agree that prevention is the only way to thwart a rapist and preserve that basic human dignity. I only hope other women, unlike the 300 who bought those damn belts, realize it.

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Preacherman said:
The big problem with devices using hooks, harpoons, etc. is that one does NOT want the rapist's bodily fluids (including blood) to be in a position to infect one with whatever nasty diseases he may be carrying. These anti-rape devices may prevent ejaculation, but if he's bleeding all over you, this kinda defeats the object of the exercise... :scrutiny:
 
Standing Wolf said:
If they get serious enough about violent crime, they'll start throwing out politicians until they get respect for their intrinsic human rights.
Can't argue with that. I was only referring to 'the mean time.'

Anyway, dumb idea or not, I give these Swedish teens credit for at least being active against rape and not living in denial saying, "it won't happen to me."
 
gunsmith said:
rapist will simply switch tactics.

doesn't Sweden have ok gun laws (for Europe?)
Depends on what you compare it with. Better than England, Australia, N.Y.C, and Washington DC. LOT worse than say any state in the US where blissninnys are in minority.
CCW is possible in theory here, but the number of people with one is probably less than one hundred. Fully automatic weapons are also a possibility, however very, very small.
 
I think that the best way to eliminate rape is to start eliminating rapists.
Winchester white box 9mm is about $11 per 100 at the local Wal-Mart.
Executions made cheaper.
No need to waste those expensive alcohol pads either.
 
goon said:
I think that the best way to eliminate rape is to start eliminating rapists.
Winchester white box 9mm is about $11 per 100 at the local Wal-Mart.
Executions made cheaper.
No need to waste those expensive alcohol pads either.
Unfortunatly, CCW is near impossible here:( :fire: :banghead:
The criminals don't care about that...who could imagine that!
 
While CCW is a great way to defend yourself, that isn't exactly what I was referring to.
I am an American and we are known to be a country full of barbaric misfits so please take that into consideration.
I was talking about making rape a death penalty crime, and then enforcing that penalty cheaply.
I suppose a rope may be a better deal though. I can't imagine needing more than 10 feet (a little over 3 meters) to hang someone and it could be recycled a whole lot of times.
That would be justice.
 
I suppose a rope may be a better deal though. I can't imagine needing more than 10 feet (a little over 3 meters) to hang someone and it could be recycled a whole lot of times.

There is an old manual (i think actually published by the navy) that specifies the exact length of rope required to properly hang a man based on his weight. There was a *very* bizarre case in Washington in which a man actually ate his way off the top end of the chart and argued that he couldnt be hung because it could result in either decapitation or strangulation which would be cruel and unusual (but kinda funny, if you ask me). We changed our 'default' method of execuation to lethal injection as a result of this, now people can only be hanged by special request (which actually happened once that I am aware of).
 
If I understand correctly these things are bad because the rapist has to actually rape them for it to work and if the rapist finds them he might kill them for using them so they should carry guns to protect themselves from the rape before it happens.

But since guns are not available to the women of these countries should they just carry KY and asked to be kissed first?
 
Don Gwinn said:
My wife uses pepper spray and a Spyderco Native.
If I told you that pepper spray requires a hard-to-get license to purchase here, would you believe me? :banghead: :(
 
which imediatly makes this better than that stupid bridge I made with popsicle sticks.

Yeah, or that "make the messiest/best/most-unique/most-diverse peanut butter sandwich" thing the 4-H Club foisted upon us in the 5th grade.:uhoh:

I subscribe to the El Presidente model here, but I've heard of some women who, shooting at a torso target, will start at the crotch area and work their way up to the head.

Regarding hanging, I do recall they have that formula for weight/length. I also recall some documentary of the hanging of Black Jack Ketchum (train robber) which resulted in decapitation because his hobby in jail while awaiting execution was sit and eat. I also recall that using a recycled hanging rope is no good. The first hanging done with a rope stretches it tight and I saw where they re-inacted this one situation on Wild West Tech. After the first hanging, they soaped the rope, so not only was it tight, it was also slick. Instead of being a clean neck-breaking hanging, the hangee got his throat cut and blood wound up all over everybody. But, I do agree that if some offenses were punishable by hanging, it'd be justice served.
 
Unarmed shooter said:
If I told you that pepper spray requires a hard-to-get license to purchase here, would you believe me? :banghead: :(

and ill bet spydercos require a act of legislature to get a permit for as well,,,,,

look back 229years to see what we did about our tyranical goverment and do the same to yours because a goverment that doesnt uphold basic human rights deserves distruction!!!!

if ours keeps heading in the direction of yours we will repeat the treatment given in 1776.
 
It may block the front door, but the perp may be after the back door...
...Or the skylight. Bottom line, this device is well meant, but once it's existance is learned, it will become either useless or dangerous.
 
I wonder if there will be a warning not to wear the belt with a skirt?
 
loose cannon said:
and ill bet spydercos require a act of legislature to get a permit for as well,,,,,.
No. They are just illegal to carry, atleast for self defence. OTOH, if you are attacked, you can use just about anything to defend yourself, provided that you didn't carry it with you. A handgun suddenly materializes just by your hand while you are on the ground with a rapist over you? Put the business end under his chin, and blow him to hell. But carry something (effective) with you? Oh no, don't even think about it. (Thats not PC-think here, nor "fair" for the thieves...:rolleyes: :banghead: :mad: :cuss: )
I have a feeling things are going to explode quite soon. Someone even suggested letting women carry pepper spray. Discriminatory(for the dudes), but a step in the right direction I suppose...Also, the PC crowd has had it with covering for rapists, and quite recently, a trend has arrived, the newsrags are starting to publish proper pictures, and physical descriptions of rapists...some people say it just confirms what everyone with more than two braincells have known for a long time...I dont really know what to think...
 
i feel for you unarmed!heres what you do if it becomes intolerable over there get your family to mexico use a temporary brown die to the skin and black your hair and cross into us.but best do it soon cause our border security is about to tighten and the door will shut soon. or u can wait a few years and come legally.

if you do make it look me up and we can shoot together.btw my wifes great grandfather imigrated here from jenshepin sweden.her anti rape weapon of choice? a glock 17.17+1 9mm jhps and a g18 33rd spare mag.
 
loose cannon said:
i feel for you unarmed!heres what you do if it becomes intolerable over there get your family to mexico use a temporary brown die to the skin and black your hair and cross into us.but best do it soon cause our border security is about to tighten and the door will shut soon. or u can wait a few years and come legally.

if you do make it look me up and we can shoot together.btw my wifes great grandfather imigrated here from jenshepin sweden.her anti rape weapon of choice? a glock 17.17+1 9mm jhps and a g18 33rd spare mag.
I like that idea, however, I'm trying to get people to be atleast sympatethic to the RKBA cause...I might have won over a few...I will try my darndest to get the laws to get better here, but I don't know...it seems pointless at times... Most people don't give a damn about pistols here, as long as they have their sbs and their bolt action rifles...personally I've been thinking more and more about getting my hands on firearms thru "alternative" means...every man should have atleast one firearm the government does not know about, right?...
jenshepin
Jönköping:D Took me a few seconds to figure out what you were talking about :D
 
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