How many want billery?

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Are there any *gun owners* here that can say they hate GWB?
I see several gun guys on the net that proclaim hate towards Bush. They say that herr klinton and reno did NOT in fact come after their guns and in fact did not lose ONE gun right.
So they hate Bush and will vote billery...(they say)

How about it people? Is it going to be another Republican for you or a Democrat??
Remember the assault weapon ban when you choose...Also since the klintoons have gone, the reciprocal CCW permits have GREATLY increased. It's nowhere hear perfect, but it IS getting better.

So easy to say GWB is not good for us gun people...That's because we forget how the dems DID come after us...But it's been awhile so we tend to forget.

I haven't.
 
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Yea. But if you want people to take you seriously, you should at least understand proper punctuation and when to use uppercase letters.
 
After Snopes Clinton, there's no way in @#$%^&! I'll ever so much as consider voting for a representative of the Democratic (sic) party.

That said™, the Republicans haven't accomplished much with the majority the nation handed them, and most are indistinguishable from representatives of the Democratic (sic) party.

I can at least tell what the Libertarian party stands for.
 
yuk

I can't imagine voting for HRC. But I am tired of voting for RINO's too. I'd hate to vote for a third party, because I foresee a repeat of the Perot disaster. But the RINO's are just not giving us a good choice, IMO.

Can't we just put a "none of the above" on the ballot? Then we can throw those first choices out and start over. Oh no, I don't think I could take the months of political comercials all over again.
 
I made this comment in another thread somewhere, but it bears repeating.

While it is true that the Democrats are NOT our friends, the Republicans aren't "the party of gun owners" as they claim. If we had a law requiring truth in advertising, the Rep's would be called "the party of not raping your rights beyond the status quo".

I've heard since I was old enought to vote (90) about how the Republicans are on "our side". Yet, since 2000, with control of both the White House and the legislature, they've done basically nothing for us. The AWB was gonna sunset anyway, they just had to sit on their hands. They've made no attempt to actually loosen restrictions on our RKBA. Don't even have to be successful at it, just TRY.

We (gun owners) are like that niave young girl, while the Reps are the smooth talking young man. "Honey, I swear I'll still respect you", "I want to get married too, just not yet. We can just live together until (insert timeframe)". The Reps are running on the theory of "why buy the cow if you're gettin' the milk for free?". And, to put it a touch crudely: why should they offer us the ring, when we're so willing to "put out" for them?

I'm through with that. They want my vote, they need to actually do something FOR us...
 
Well put, Hunter Rose. My vote, as valuable or as insignificant as it may be, is going to the candidate who most mirrors my vision of America, regardless of their chance of winning.
Biker
 
My vote, as valuable or as insignificant as it may be, is going to the candidate who most mirrors my vision of America, regardless of their chance of winning.
+1 So far, the ONLY political party that even comes close to my vision of the U.S (which is that described in the founding charter) is the Libertarians.
 
Sindawe...

I agree. My main problem with the Libertarian party has been their open border policy. I strongly suspect that given the growing dislike by the American public in general for the havoc currently being wreaked by unchecked immigration, illegal and otherwise, the LP will alter its position on this. At least I hope so.
Biker
 
Bush has done more harm to our rights in general than Clinton ever did.

If the Democrats ran the right person, I would consider voting for them. After 25 years of voting for nobody but Republicans, I am very disappointed in the sorry performance G.W. Bush has given.
 
Biker et al:

My only problem with the Libs is their complete inability to work as a successful third party. For a new party to get goin', they should start small: try to put a Lib in EVERY elected position at the local level. As the local positions fil, move up to county, then state. There shouldn't be an attempt made at Pres until we have a couple Lib governors, and a fair number of legiscritters. Unfortunately, it seem the Libs want to build the pyramid by placing the capstone, then adding the structure under it...
 
Hi All-

I'll never cast my vote for Hillary! regardless of whom might be running against her. We've been in a tough spot with the RINOs lately.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
Hunter Rose said:
Biker et al:

My only problem with the Libs is their complete inability to work as a successful third party. For a new party to get goin', they should start small: try to put a Lib in EVERY elected position at the local level. As the local positions fil, move up to county, then state. There shouldn't be an attempt made at Pres until we have a couple Lib governors, and a fair number of legiscritters. Unfortunately, it seem the Libs want to build the pyramid by placing the capstone, then adding the structure under it...
I agree fully. However, I will no longer vote for the lesser of two evils. The only Repub candidate that I would consider to be worthy of my vote might be Tancredo, and that's about it. I can think of no Dems, off the top of my head.
Ultimately, it's likely BOHICA.
Biker
 
The reality is that the ONLY legislation that pertains to the RKBA that was passed under RINO control was the lawful protection of commerce act... and that really is only directly a benefit to the industry... NOT us gunowners...

the R's could've done a lot of small things or at least attempted a lot of small things to win my favor... They did NONE... There are very few R's that are truly pro gun anymore on the national level and they pretty much are powerless considering the rest of the RINO's...
 
I first voted Republican for Nixon - and kept that streak up until President Bush ran in 2004 (I voted for him, campaigned for him in my neighborhood and donated money to his effort in 2000). President Bush, the greatest leader of our time, has been such a magnificant disappointment I doubt I'll ever vote for another Republican.
The advantage of Billery is we KNOW exactly what we're getting.
 
After eight years of Grofaz, I fear most people would settle for even a modicum of competence.

Unfortunately, neither party has even a single decent electable leader. We need somebody who is a combination of:

1) Dean's fire
2) Zel's patriotism
3) Hillary's brains
4) Newt's vision
5) Energizer Bunny's stamina
6) Carter's integrity

There is none in the corridors of power that comes even close.
 
The Drew said:
The reality is that the ONLY legislation that pertains to the RKBA that was passed under RINO control was the lawful protection of commerce act... and that really is only directly a benefit to the industry... NOT us gunowners...

the R's could've done a lot of small things or at least attempted a lot of small things to win my favor... They did NONE... There are very few R's that are truly pro gun anymore on the national level and they pretty much are powerless considering the rest of the RINO's...

In all fairness, the AWB was allowed to sunset, this would almost certainly have NOT happened under a Democrat controlled senate. That alone was probably the biggest victory for gun owners in the last 10 years (if not longer). Sometimes the best thing the government can do is nothing, I wish they would do it more often.
 
>In all fairness, the AWB was allowed to sunset, this would almost certainly have NOT happened under a Democrat controlled senate. That alone was probably the biggest victory for gun owners in the last 10 years (if not longer). Sometimes the best thing the government can do is nothing, I wish they would do it more often.<

Cool... they sat on their hands, and let a law die (as it was written to). That's it for half a decade of being in power? Colour me less than impressed...

I've voted Republican in every election since I could, and I'm through. Unless there's something major that happens (like an honest attempt to get rid of some bad laws), they can forget my vote. They want me to "put out", they can give me a ring!
 
Guys keep saying the repubs haven't done anything for us..How about the reciprocal CCW that has been passed.
We can now carry in a bunch of different states and from one state to another..With just one permit.
www.packing.org

There was some arm twisting involved in getting that passed I can assure you..By the repubs.

Mizz fineswine and shumer have been , for the most part, quiet for 6 years..That in itself is a big plus.

I'm no big fan of GWB, as a VN vet, I hate that damn war...It 's all for NOTHING. But for the gun owner I still think this administration hasn't been all that bad..
 
How many want billery?

:what:Voting for Billery is not a :cuss: option!
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Vote for Hillary? Surely you jest! She would be like another Jimmy Carter....maybe even worse!

Hillary Rodham (she supposedly didn't take the name of Clinton when they were married) has stated that the AWB should have been either extended or made permanent! She is also STILL sitting on a legislative paper that was authored by the late U.S. Senator Patrick Moynihan that, if submitted and made law, would increase the taxes on ammo by a whopping 10,000%! (Moynihan never submitted that legislative document, but stated that the "profits" from the heavy taxation could be used for a "universal health program"....and if you recall, Hillary turned blue in the face when her health program work was tossed out).

Hey, I'd definitely vote for a Democrat....but only if it's Zell Miller! He's a "DINO", and the Dems absolutely HATE him!
 
1. I would never vot for for Billery.
2. In the last Presidential election, it was the Democrat's election to lose. And they chose the wrong candidate.
3. In the last election, I chose the smallest evil on the ballot (GWB). The Libertarians need to learn that vocal nutjobs will not get elected. The biggest problem that the Libertarian party has is the insistence on ideological purity.
 
Biker said:
I agree. My main problem with the Libertarian party has been their open border policy. I strongly suspect that given the growing dislike by the American public in general for the havoc currently being wreaked by unchecked immigration, illegal and otherwise, the LP will alter its position on this. At least I hope so.
Biker

As if GWB and the Repugnican's open border policy is more palatable.:barf:

Actually Biker, the Libertarian stance on open borders is dependent on getting rid of entitlements and the welfare state before an open border policy is ever put into place.
Those coming to this country will have the opportunity to fail or succeed on their own merit without any sort of .gov safety net. Immigration will be self limiting and only those who can contribute and succeed will stay here for the long term...............or at least that's how it's supposed to work in theory.:scrutiny:
 
Guys keep saying the repubs haven't done anything for us..How about the reciprocal CCW that has been passed.

This discussion was about the presidency. Please review the title. Reciprocal CCW has absolutely nothing to do with the Presidency or any other federal elections.

But now that you bring the issue up, the Republicans in the House and Senate, along with our great President could have made CCW better by requiring states adhere to the Constitution and honor the Full Faith and Credit Clause, which would have immediately given CCW reciprocity throughout all 50 states.

So if you think about it like that, one could argue the Republicans have actually hurt us by blowing their time in power and not enforcing the Constitution.

Hillary Rodham (she supposedly didn't take the name of Clinton when they were married) has stated that the AWB should have been either extended or made permanent!

So did George W. Bush.
 
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