What is a liberal?

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Many of us here throw the term “liberal” around here like it was going out of style. I myself have been called a liberal on these very boards. This confuses me, being that I don’t consider myself liberal, yet I don’t consider myself conservative either, but who knows.

So, thinking about the post I see the term used in, I am going to take a guess at what liberal is.

1. Liberals are Democrats
2. Liberals hate guns
3. Liberals hate America
4. Liberals hate God
5. Liberals love national health care and welfare
6. Liberals have no monetary restraint

Hmm, strangely enough, for each one, I can think of examples contrary. Those labels are so broad that they are almost meaningless.

I am starting to think that liberals are like that monster in the closet when we where kids. You never saw it, but you knew it was there.

Anyway, can you guys help me out and tell me what a liberal is? I want to be able to point, call someone a liberal, and dismiss anything they have to say out of hand, but I want to make sure that I ID them correctly. I would hate to call any “conservative” a liberal by mistake.
 
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This'll be more fun than watching two naked fat chicks fighting over the last maple bar!
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UberPhLuBB said:
Liberals want to change things that do not need to be changed.

Simple as that.
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And if you agreed to change the things, they will not ever be satisfied, and they will not ever go away...

They are the elite and know what is best for the sheeple...
 
I've been wondering the same thing for quite a while now.

UberPhLuBB said:
Liberals want to change things that do not need to be changed.

Simple as that.
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Like what?
 
Alex45ACP said:
I've been wondering the same thing for quite a while now.



Like what?
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The specifics Tuffpaws listed are a start. Liberals are liberal with change. They aren't happy with a static world, they feel compelled to change things "for the better," when in fact they're making things worse. It doesn't much matter what they change, so long as they change it. It should go to show you how perfect our society was when liberals had to try to change idiotic things that 5 years prior were considered the norm. They no longer had significant changes to make.

There are liberals on both sides of the political scale by the way. There just tend to be far more liberal Democrats than Republicans.

ETA: Liberals don't hate god (at least not for the most part I'm sure). They just need things to change, and changing the distinction between government and religion is just another target. They are religious too. Me personally, I'm not religious, but it makes me angry that liberals want the ten commandments down from government buildings and "in god we trust" off our currency. Is it HURTING you? Do you NEED it gone? I'm not religious and I don't care about it.
 
UberPhLuBB said:
The specifics Tuffpaws listed are a start. Liberals are liberal with change. They aren't happy with a static world, they feel compelled to change things "for the better," when in fact they're making things worse. It doesn't much matter what they change, so long as they change it.
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Examples?
 
I think liberals start with the belief that everyone is entitled to a slice of the pie, regardless of whether or not an individual actually does any work to achieve personal success or contributes to the betterment of society.

A basic liberal notion is to take money from successful individuals who've worked hard their whole lives, and distribute "benefits" to those less-fortunate individuals -- because it's not their fault that they are uneducated, drug-addicted, unemployed and have borne five out-of-wedlock welfare-dependent children from five different fathers (or have fathered five children with five different welfare-dependent mothers) ...
 
Alex45ACP said:
Examples?
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Foreign policy, more gun laws, separation of church and state to name a few.

I suppose the opposing side wants things changed back to the way they were in the past, which might make them partial liberals by definition. But liberals, being the opposite of conservatives, do not value tradition.

Maybe what makes a liberal is a denial of logic and a longing to "save the children" from themselves and everything dangerous by removing the obstacles that give people character and an ability to face the unknown without support.
 
Malone LaVeigh said:
No one who uses the word as a noun deserves to be listened to.
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Then I suppose anyone who uses the terms Democrat or Republican as nouns doesn't deserve to be listened to either.

Far as I'm concerned, it's a verb, an adverb, a noun, and a pronoun depending on how it's used.
 
To put it simply, liberals believes goverment is the solution to all problem, whereas conservitives believe goverment is the problem.
 
There are two different types of Liberals. The first are like the founding fathers, they are now labeled classical Liberals. Who supported individial equal rights under a freely elected democraticly elected government. They believed in a liberal economics of free interprise.
Then their are modern liberals, who support social and cultural equality or now know as multiculturalism, at the expense of individial rights. They believe in a strong government control of the economy, property and people. Many are Socialist and Marxist.
 
nfl1990 said:
To put it simply, liberals believes goverment is the solution to all problem, whereas conservitives believe goverment is the problem.
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That would be Democrats and Republicans. :) Democrats want power given to big government, Republicans want power kept at the lowest levels, where it belongs. The country was founded as a Republic.

Liberals and conservatives are subcatagories.
 
liberals

Good start TuffPaws. All the rest of the answers are right too. Liberal is a unamerican that any good Constitution supportin, 2nd Amendment lovin, Pledge sayin, God lovin, flag wavin American may not be able to describe with a formal Webster definition but we sure know one when they open their mouth or draft legislation.:fire: :barf: Right gentlemen.
 
a liberal is someone who seeks to impose their ideas of what individuals in our society *need*, and advocates that no one is responsible for their own actions. if you can blame it on someone else, you're a liberal. if you think you can make the decisions for everyone based on your own narrow view of reality you're a liberal.
liberals mask their own hypocrisy with horrid whining and incessant crying. they may say they are 'tolerant', but count how many times they insult you with racial or sexual epiteths and you'll see just how much they really 'tolerate' minorities and those with different sexual orientations.

at the heart of liberalism is good old fashioned greed and envy. they want the money that big corporations have, and they want the prestige of being a so-called 'elite'.
liberals think that somehow they are special and deserve special privileges. they preach about eliminating things like 'personal possessions' and talk longingly about 'sharing the whole world' with one another, but in reality they desire to amass fortunes and wealth and hoard it all for themselves.
liberals tell everyone else to 'give and share' but when they are asked to share their riches, they instead have a 'charity concert' and donate a PORTION of the proceeds for whatever cause, rather than dip into their own bank accounts and get those in need the help they require immediately.
liberals want us to believe they truly care for each and every individual, but while millions are being tortured or slaughtered, they care more about whether or not they are on some blacklist they blame on the jews in hollywood.
 
UberPhLuBB said:
Liberals want to change things that do not need to be changed.

Simple as that.
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+1

Furthermore, once liberals have succeeded in abolishing something they find offensive, they pick something else to be offended by, no matter how miniscule or ridiculous.
 
What is a liberal? That's an easy one. A liberal is a strange beast from another planet. It could be a purple dinosaur, flying pig or other strange looking beast. Some of them emulate humans. The ones that look like humans are often feared, shunned or ridiculed. You don't think like me so therefore you are a liberal. I think the real meaning of a liberal gets totally lost on gun forums(thats all I read).

So MRTUFFPAWS I believe if this thread runs for 100 post you will get 100 different answers as to what a liberal is.
 
UberPhLuBB said:
Democrats want power given to big government, Republicans want power kept at the lowest levels, where it belongs.
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In that case, Bush must be a Democrat who has somehow managed to trick everyone into thinking he's a Republican.
 
Main Entry: 2liberal
Function: noun
: a person who is liberal: as a : one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways b capitalized : a member or supporter of a liberal political party c : an advocate or adherent of liberalism especially in individual rights
 
spacemanspiff said:
if you think you can make the decisions for everyone based on your own narrow view of reality you're a liberal.
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Then people against gay marriage are liberals?
 
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