If guns were ever banned, what would you do?

Read Sam Adams' post. Like I said, an outright gun ban won't happen. Firearms will just be regulated out of civilian possession.

Practice with things not listed to no one gets ideas on what else to ban.

if they ban them, they have to come and get them. so see, banning doesn't really work when you have so many already in circulation.

but in the hypothetical scenario, i'll turn to knives, swordy creations and the like. when those get banned as well, it's spoon time. those evil spoons...

Why you must have a gun...

Why?
http://www.mouseguns.com/whyown/whyown.htm

That quiet enough for you sissies? Some "menfolk" you are, hidin' under the bed, hopin' the bother will all be over before you have to decide if you will stand up or just faint.

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Yes, because, obviously, being snatched up shortly before any door-to-door confiscations begin because you've stated that you will fight is clearly superior to catching the feds by surprise.

Phyphor said:

Yes, because, obviously, being snatched up shortly before any door-to-door confiscations begin because you've stated that you will fight is clearly superior to catching the feds by surprise.

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I'm a Hoosier; we can carry in this state, all it takes is an easy to get permit, which I have. I don't react well to surprises.

Ever filled out a 4473? Filled out a lot of them? Then if there is a "snatch up shortly before" list, you're on it.

But the fact is, government is not very good at this sort of thing. They haven't the manpower and they haven't the skills. Even when they try to apply a lot of force to a few people, it tends to get out of control, and it does so even faster (if not as loudly) when lesser force is attempted against more people -- consider Ruby Ridge or New Orleans after Katrina.

Think of me as the canary in your coal mine. If, in some hypothetical and unlikely future, I get taken out by gun-grabbers, it will be loud. Time for the timid to wake up and get to the trenches!

However, the deterrent effect of sufficent loudmouths like me, ready to fight for our rights, should help avoid the need for an actual fight. "If you would have peace, prepare for war."

--Herself

If they come to take my guns, they will have to 'take' the bullets first.

Oh, and 99% compliance is an absurdly high figure. It'd be no more than 80% nationwide, and far closer to 0% in many rural areas.

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+1 You don't wanna even mess with the grey haired little old ladies in my neighborhood


Also, incremental gun control laws often have the opposite effect: the 1994 AWB probably was responsible for putting more semi-auto rifles into circulation than anything else

I don't believe that they'll ever really come for our guns. They have been and will continue to take away our will to use them. We'll give a a little here and there so we can keep our big-screens, Humm Vs, Sunday papers, so forth.
We've had it soft, Folks, and it's made us soft.
Half the nation is obese and we spend billions a year on weight loss programs.
Everyone wanna go to heaven, but nobody wants to die.
Hokay, cynicism off.
Biker

DON'T TREAD ON ME

If guns were suddenly outlawed, I would not turn any of mine in. It's a personal choice. I'm 55 years old and have lived a good life. I am not looking forward to old age, and would much rather die a few years early while in the process of defending myself from an intrusive government that I have come to detest, having seen it become more and more powerful throughout my life. Again its a personal choice and I would probably be very much alone, although it is possible that some of the older people would force a stand-off since we don't have as much to lose. Nobody lives forever.

I would invite them to come and take them, from my cold dead hands.

But despite the wide ownership and availability of guns, violent crime is extremely rare. There are only minimal controls at public buildings and politicians rarely have police protection.

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In free societies, where the people are governed and taxed by their own consent, politicians need no more special protection than your average Joe citizen. It is only in a police state, where the people are taxed against their will (and against their interests), where the government keeps close tabs on its subjects, and where laws are passed to control the every step of the people, that politicians need special armed teams around the clock to keep them from being hanged from the nearest light posts.

Tallpine

Also, incremental gun control laws often have the opposite effect: the 1994 AWB probably was responsible for putting more semi-auto rifles into circulation than anything else

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+1000 to that. I can tell you that even before the federal AWB, I had to suffer under Fascist Florio's ban (a REAL ban - as in no grandfathering) in the PRNJ. I got an SKS and a Garand directly as a result of not being "allowed" to own an M1A (which was later clarified - NJ residents can own one, just no mags>15 rounds, and no bayonet lug). I also bought boatloads of ammo and got into reloading because of that. When the federal ban came along, I picked up more toys and supplies. I know that I was far from alone.

And if it looks like a graboid could win the next Presidential election, look for skyrocketing sales of everything gun related.

Biker

We'll give a a little here and there so we can keep our big-screens, Humm Vs, Sunday papers, so forth. We've had it soft, Folks, and it's made us soft. Half the nation is obese and we spend billions a year on weight loss programs.

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There's nothing new under the sun. The Roman tyrants kept the population uninterested in revolution by providing bread and circuses. Today it is limitless chips, triple decker burgers, supermaxgonzo sized fries and double cheese pizzas, added to cable/satellite TV/high speed internet.

Hmmmm,

Brand new poster throws this hand grenade, and then doesn't respond after 4 pages of posts?

Looks like a Troll to me.

Yep, troll.

Troll or not, it's been a good conversation.

Regarding us decadent modern Romans, yes, we are fat, lazy, and complacent. That said, I like my luxury. I like my food and my pleasure. I like my donkey porn... whoops! I think I crossed a line... But you get my drift. I enjoy life and make absolutely no apologies for that. Part of living in a free society is that we don't have to conform to the dictates of others regarding how we live. I understand where you are coming from, and on a personal level I try to keep active, fit, and prepared, but I will continue to enjoy my big screen TV and gigantic pickup truck guilt free.

I don't know, If they did outlaw guns AND managed to get mine....

A while back I drew up plans for a large-scale crossbow (think castle wall defense). The Idea was to use an old leaf spring from a car's suspension for the bow and steel cable for the string. The stock would be reinforced an I would have a crank for loading it, I think the draw weight would be well over 100#s. It would be heavy as heck, but talk about armor-piercing (platemail at 150 yrds? no problem )

Vaportrail wrote

If guns were suddenly outlawed, I would not turn any of mine in. It's a personal choice. I'm 55 years old and have lived a good life. I am not looking forward to old age, and would much rather die a few years early while in the process of defending myself from an intrusive government that I have come to detest, having seen it become more and more powerful throughout my life. Again its a personal choice and I would probably be very much alone, although it is possible that some of the older people would force a stand-off since we don't have as much to lose. Nobody lives forever.

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Sir, You are correct- The Old Fart Army of which I am also a member might be the toughest nut for the Feds to crack if push comes to shove- We may be old, fat and slow, but we remember times when we had much more freedom than we have now and we would have little to loose- It's just a matter of getting into the Alamo Mentality, and that's easier to do with age- My motto is, "age and treachery will always overcome youth and enthusiasm"

A while back I drew up plans for a large-scale crossbow (think castle wall defense). The Idea was to use an old leaf spring from a car's suspension for the bow and steel cable for the string. The stock would be reinforced an I would have a crank for loading it, I think the draw weight would be well over 100#s. It would be heavy as heck, but talk about armor-piercing.

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It's called a ballista, and the ancient Romans beat you to it. They used lots of them in their many wars. In fact, they were quite popular crew served weapons up till the discovery of gun powder. Their effectiveness lay in the ability of their projectiles to penetrate two or three armoured enemies at once, making a kind of human shishkabob.

Here's a picture of me next to my very own balista.

Just kidding. That's not me.

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I don't know, If they did outlaw guns AND managed to get mine....

A while back I drew up plans for a large-scale crossbow (think castle wall defense). The Idea was to use an old leaf spring from a car's suspension for the bow and steel cable for the string. The stock would be reinforced an I would have a crank for loading it, I think the draw weight would be well over 100#s. It would be heavy as heck, but talk about armor-piercing (platemail at 150 yrds? no problem )

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I've thought of that too. I know the exact car to get a spring out of. Some GM cars had these nice fiberglass transverse monoleafs, fairly lightweight but sringy enough to support the whole rear end. A 2-ton comealong from Harbor Freight should do nicely for drawing. An old boat trailer would make an excellent frame with little modification and it would be towable, too.

Interesting Thread.

Interesting to read what folks have done / currently doing / future plans to Preserve Freedoms - Fight Tyranny .

For some only guns matter. For some the Firearm does not Symbolize anything other than being an object to adorn, to brag about, collect...own...I recommend these folks read Mr. Bateman's Metal & Wood :

http://www.thefiringline.com/Misc/library/Metal_and_Wood.htm
The following essay was originally published at www.TheFiringLine.com

Others are more vocal, many I know of what how they feel, have done, continue to do - just the nature of these folks to follow Deeds not Words.. Deeds are being done by both vocal and non-vocal folks.

I am reminded of Atlas Shrugged in many ways reading this thread - one is this ...

When the Policeman becomes the criminal - then the criminal must become the Policeman.

Since this board is frequented by all sorts of folks perhaps they too will take the opportunity to read Mr. Bateman's work, that of Ayn Rand, maybe even Read the COTUS and BoR.

Perhaps not so much a question of what will one "do" - Better to ask what is one "doing" that should be asked of oneself.

Steve

I am not the original poster you posed this question to but I am qualified to answer this as I am a cop. Unless I am caught totally flat footed in a rare moment of unpreparedness I will engage the threat.If it's a familiar face too bad so sad for them. I was only doing my job, I was following orders ,are nothing more than cop outs. They aren't my friend or range buddy if they are trampling the people's rights.

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Hmm, I though that the Nuremberg Trials established that this was not a valid defense. Then again, BATFE did just that after Waco and Ruby Ridge.. They got away with it too. Wow, it's nice to know which nation our federal government is striving to be as.

No need to yell.
Biker