THR and "feed[ing] the hogs"

those uncomfortable people often act when they think they're making the world a safer place for the whales and the children...

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Another word that comes to mind is "agitator". Not wanting to sound like my tin-foil hat is on too tight, but some of the posts that I have seen here just beg the question, "Are you just an anti trying to get someone stirred up so you can use their comments as proof that gun-nuts want to overthrow the fedgov?" That or, "Are you a federal agent pretending to be a 2A activist?"

Think of all the stings that have been happening lately with sexual predators who think they've been setting up a victim when it's they who have been set up. Not at all beyond the realm of possibility. I take all extreme posts with a huge grain of salt, and I don't blame the mods for locking them down or deleting them very quickly. Thanks mods, because I think you guys actually have our best interests at heart.

DZ: I understand what you are expressing. While reading your post #46, an old, once-often-used phrase came to mind....


..."If it's time to bury your guns, it's probably time to dig them up." .....


Take that as you will....

*sigh*

Sayings

seeker spake:

>..."If it's time to bury your guns, it's probably time to dig them up." .....<
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Roger that. Another one that has come to mind recently is:

"If you're afraid of your government, you're living under tyranny."

...and 2A/RKBA is probably the only thing that keeps it from going full throttle, because...they KNOW that it ain't about duck huntin'. That's why they hate it so much. Keeps'em honest.

Freedom of speech is the right for you to use your printing press as you see fit.
Freedom of speech is NOT the right for you to use someone else's printing press as you see fit.

thehighroad.com is Oleg's printing press - not yours.
Don't like the way it's used? get your own.

It ain't keeping them all that honest.

Derek Zeanah said:

you might (or might not) be surprised by the number of "agitator" type posts that resolve to a .gov ip address. Stupid, or malicious?

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Stupid: Nah - that's what our elected masters think we are though - and you know what(?) - they're mostly right.

Malicious? Hardly - government is a self perpetuating multilithic institution that feeds on power until it has devoured so much that there is none left for the people it is supposed to serve. It's nature demands that it be so. Is a tiger malicious when it kills and eats its prey? Hardly - it is just being a tiger and so government is just being government.

Put 'em together - add two plus two and you'll discover that the answer is 4 - a police state for our own good run by our masters elected by those who are truly too stupid to come up with 4 or too apathetic to care. We have encountered the enemy and he is us.

50 years people - 50 years. I cry for my grandchildren for the world they will grow into is one that more resembles Soviet Russia than the America I grew up in. We're not there yet - but in 50 years...

With recent newsworthy events (esp. of the collaboration of the US & Mex gov'ts against the Minutemen), have we anything new to add?....

I've seen a handfull of "I'll know it's time" threads, and posts here before. For instance one I remember where it was said if THR had to be hosted outside of the US, it'd be "time to go fot long walks in the forest with shovels, and GPS."

That being said, that isn't bad. What is bad is specific plans. I've told my fiancee about this site, and upon a little lurking she has done, she is now worried. Why? She is convinced the NSA has a record of our IP addresses, and if bodies drop, the SWAT will come. She thinks simply the wrong people get in office and that could happen.

Earlier it was posted that specific plans are the province of well trusted friends. This is true. Discression is the better part of valour.

I believe discussing the time at which the cartridge box becomes appropriate is important. We can't come here, say what we say about the 2A, and then not even discuss the doomsday scenario. It would be disingenious.

However, there is a big difference between talking the hypothetical, and putting out plans.

I don't know if my fiancee's fears are right or not, but what I do know is that keeping a list of IP addresses in a file in a government server wouldn't be all that difficult.

If the day for feeding the hogs were ever to come, would you want to have stated your intentions years before?

However, there is a big difference between talking the hypothetical, and putting out plans.

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What if in the middle of a hypothetical discusssion about when it's time, you realize that all the criteria people are mentioning for when "it will be time" have already been satisfied?

Just asking.

Derek, regarding anonymity and posting on THR, do you think that users could have the option of a "self-destruct" button that would allow them to delete all their posts at once?

And, if it really came down to it, couldn't you just grab the server and throw it in a river?

Derek Zeanah said:

Nothing posted on the Internet ever goes away. It's simple to set up a spider to crawl sites like THR once every few minutes and log the results -- a great deal of our traffic is from spiders of various sorts.

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Are search engines doing the spidering? Don't they delete the information after a while? I thought USEnet was the only place where you really had to worry about your posts staying around forever, because of what Google has done.

Also, what you posted elsewhere about ISPs turning over logs of sites users have visisted--is that only proposed legislation?

DocZin

Doc, if you should ever come upon a situation where all the criteria have been fulfilled, you should calmly log off your computer, and get to work.

I can't believe this thread is still alive...