Why we need to handle firearms safely (kinda graphic)

Groce.

On the plus side, that 135 gr Hydrashok looks like a promising load for the amazing disabling-gun-hand-shot I've been practicing.

OUCH.

Man, that is a wake-up call from complacency.

Sawdust

oops.

As Mr. Ayoob says, Fluffy the Gun is a piece of machinery and has no conscience.

Must be a federal agent.

"I'm the only one in this room professional enough to shoot myself in the hand with a Glock fotee"

"It only hurts when I breath..."

I've always felt that it pays to be extra cautious ( to the point of being considered paranoid by my friends ) when it comes to safety around firearms. Think i'll recommend that one guy in particular that says things like "yes, dad" to me out at the range have a look at the pics. here.

And what kind of gun maker builds a gun where you have to pull the trigger to take it apart?

I know my XD requires a trigger pull to be disassembled.

And what kind of gun maker builds a gun where you have to pull the trigger to take it apart?

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Probably the most popular handgun in the US and probably the one thats the most likely to be put in the hands of people that aren't "gun people." Glock

Ouch, i bet he learned to check the chamber after that.

I may be Mr. OverCautios (Hi, nice to meet you). But that is one of my criteria when considering a gun purchase. I will NOT buy one that requires a trigger pull to disassemble. Makes no sense to me. Other makes/models have found ways to engineer without requiring this.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who have these types of weapons and they are completely comfortable with the process - but its not something I'll consider.

Just my .02 - not judging whether you should or shouldn't - just saying I don't.

First step of disassembly is unloading

ANY gun that is going to be disassembled should be thoroughly checked and verified to be unloaded regardless of whether or not it needs to be dry-fired for its take-down to be achieved.

This is about so much more than firearms designed to require dry-firing for disassembly.

First, the owner of the shot hand failed to follow the four rules. For a mistake of this nature to occur, the shooter must have failed to follow at least two of the four rules. That is the biggest issue, not the fact that his gun required him to depress the trigger. The other issue is that he failed to perform a chamber check prior to dry-firing the gun. I lock open my slide and stare at the chamber to make absolutely certain that there is nothing in it. This is done AFTER I remove the magazine. Notice I don't simply rack the slide once or twice but lock it open and consciously take the time to visually verify that the chamber is empty.

I chose many years ago to own a Glock pistol. I am well aware of its features. Therefore, it is my responsibility to do my part to avoid causing a negligent discharge. Neither Glock, nor S&W, nor Springfield Armory is responsible for any one of us attempting to dry-fire a loaded G17, Sigma, or XD while pointing it in an unsafe direction.

jash, I agree 100%.

I too lock open slide with magazine removed, visually check chamber for rounds, etc. before any dry-firing, etc.

My point was just I'd rather purchase a gun that was designed to disassemble differently than forcing a trigger pull.

Nothing wrong with Glocks, S&W, SAs - lots of people own them - I just won't be one of them.

David.

I know my XD9 requires a trigger pull for me to take it apart. If a round is in the chamber, I drop the mag, pull and lock the slide back, make sure the chambered round drops out, and triple check the chamber, and even sometimes check it 5 or 6 times. When I am sure the chamber is clear, I point the gun in a SAFE direction, and pull the trigger slowly, while holding the gun with both hands.

People have brains. They're meant to be used for more than taking up the space between their ears.

When people forget that bad things tend to happen.

They're meant to be used for more than taking up the space between their ears.

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Most people just use them for hat racks.


Thanks for posting that link. As I've gotten older I've learned that tis much better to learn from others mistakes.

And I also, will not buy a firearm that requires a trigger pull for disassembly.

What kind of nut drops the mag before locking back the slide? (Which, incidentally, should eject the cartridge in the chamber on any properly functioning semi-auto...)

I got my wake-up call when I was getting ready to clean my Astra A-80. Dropped the mag and ALMOST pulled the trigger. Took finger off of trigger and racked the slide and missed the .45 acp that popped out.

My name is Rich Timm and I am 32 years old and have handled guns for 27 years, 13 professionally.

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Is there something out there that attracts "professionals" to foh-tees?

That is a great reminder to always treat all weapons with respect and as if they were loaded at all times.

It also reminds me of a cop here on post that was giving a handgun safety class, in one of the schools (elementry) i am sure, he said "now i am the only one qualified to give this class" while pulling the pistol out of the holster, and procedes to accidently shoot himself in the foot! True story right here on Ft. Riley i swear, I wish i wasn't true!

Probably the most popular handgun in the US and probably the one thats the most likely to be put in the hands of people that aren't "gun people." Glock

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On the contrary, the 1911 actually does not require you to pull the trigger (not to start an argument over which is more popular or better). I still haven't gotten used to having to pull the trigger before disassembling our new Glock. It just seems wrong.

does that make anybody elses feet tingle?

It isn't

It also reminds me of a cop here on post that was giving a handgun safety class, in one of the schools (elementry) i am sure, he said "now i am the only one qualified to give this class" while pulling the pistol out of the holster, and procedes to accidently shoot himself in the foot! True story right here on Ft. Riley i swear, I wish i wasn't true!

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A regurgitation of the DEA AGENT in FLORIDA giving a safety talk to a YOUTH GROUP.

As reported ad nauseum all over the net.

when i first i got my xd 45acp. i thought that it was kind of dumb to have to pull the trigger.

if you have a stuck round that didnt fire. and you have to take it apart to get the barrel. what happens if when you pull the trigger while having the lever up. and then round goes off and ejects. will the slide or frame or someother part get messed up by not having the slide locked in place. as in it over travels.

And to top it all off, Glocks are just plain ugly