Stress fractures in Glock slide

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Has anyone had this happen? Our dept. training division issued a memo about circular stress fractures between the firing pin and extractor. The training Lt. (and firearms instructor) noticed this on his weapon, Glock 21 "old style first gen". He recomended everyone check their Glocks for similar fractures. Well.... I checked mine and there does appear to be a "slight" hairline circular crack.
The Lt. emailed Glock or called, but has heard nothing yet. His has a very large crack and deformed enough so as not to fully go into battery (so the story goes). I'm going to have him check my model 22 when I return to work. Hopefully his is there, I would like to get a pic to post.

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I have a G19 that has breech face "damage" or whatever you want to call it. No cracks.

Another falacie in this story is that he emailed Glock.....

NOWHERE can ANYONE seem to be able to find a way to email Glock. They operate by phone and fax alone unless he somehow has some sort of internal connection there.
 
Because apparently Glocks slides are made of super-duper steel and they are impervious to all manner of cracks, fractures, or breakages.

Why do some people find it so hard to believe that things occasionally break? Even "perfect" things.
 
Stuff breaks...time to fix or replace...1st gen pistol...what was the round count from this pistol? For a tool you depend on to defend your safety, if you've shot it enough to crack it, you probably got your money's worth out of it....get another one & keep training ;)
 
I have five Glocks. If i had a life or death situation i would trust any one of them without hesitation...or my Rugers...or my S&Ws... or my Colts... or my Springfield........

Glocks are mechanical objects. Mechanical objects can and do break. There is no such thing as perfection.
 
I had an earlier 17 with about 500 rounds through it that had a crack in the breach face. I never noticed it, as it was nasty looking anyway, but Glock claims it was, as they replaced the slide. Then again, the gun was back for the second time because it would not fire when you pulled the trigger, so maybe it was their way of trying to get it to work...just replace ALL the parts in the gun this time. :)
 
"Stuff breaks...time to fix or replace...1st gen pistol...what was the round count from this pistol? For a tool you depend on to defend your safety, if you've shot it enough to crack it, you probably got your money's worth out of it....get another one & keep training
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Good Post.


If it bothers you, Use it for a training gun or permanantly modify it to non firing mode and make it a classroom gun. Glocks are not expensive , Buy another G21 and don't look back.

I carried a G21 for almost 10 years as a street cop/ipsc shooter. Fantastic gun. I carry a G19 right now in Iraq. I am quite happy with it in its assigned role.
 
For the earlier posters that seem to think I cannot differentiate between fracture and imprint... It is fractured, 2 of the department armorers checked my glock today and yes, even with a magnifying glass, it is there. Mine is a 2nd generation I learned today.

for the falicy of emailing glock... I have no idea how he contacted them, phone, email, fax, telepathy, I don't know, wasn't there. He did contact them though.

Yes, I looked at his glock today, forgot the camera though. The circular imprint from the base of the case is what is ruined. It has actually peeled from the rest of the metal. A circle like the pic in the posted link.

I asked a legitimate question, a couple rude sarcastic replies, why?
 
Here are the pics. After talking to the Lt., he said he was practicing dry firing. After the last pull, he said it did not "feel right". He checked and sure enough, it's broke. Oh yes, he called glock and was given the run around. They said not to dry fire. Although, he pulled out his training manual that says dry firing will not cause damage.
Anyway, here are the pics, hope they show.
breechface2.jpg
breechface1.jpg

JR
 
Well, seeing is believing. I would have thought that "harder than woodpecker lips" meant unbreakable.
 
I did not see this thread before the pictures were posted so I did not have a chance to say "yay" or "nay" before some proof was shown. But the pictures do indicate a pretty serious problem.

But I am a little surprised that Glock seems to be giving them any sort of run-around. I had a case-head separation in a G23 last year (with early Federal ammo) and Glock immediately offered to check the pistol for free.

If a private citizen like me can get hold of Glock easily I see no reason that a PD could not get some response.
 
yup my research seem to suggest glocks dont do well when dry fired a million times for practice. That's why I just use snap caps when I can't go to the range to practice. They seem NOT to have any trouble when you show clear and hammer down during ipsc competitions though. :)
 
Wow, I will take a closer look at my 2nd Gen G19. It has a lot of "wear" in a circle pattern where the back of the case seats. Its like somebody shot a million steel cased rounds through it. The flip side is that ALL of the other internals, including the barrel look like they have hardly been used. The gun has almost zero finish wear and when I field stripped it, it was cleaner than ALL of my other Glocks.

My smart @$$ comment above about contacting Glock is just that...a comment. Over on GlockTalk, people often ask if Glock has an email address...NOBODY can ever come up with one.

I will be interested to see what Glock does about this.
 
Hope they make it right - G-rock has a history of making cop guns right before civilians firearms, so blowing off the LT is unusual. The one big G-rock failure I remember seeing was a crack in the slide under the ejection port, but that was after about 200,000 rounds in a range rental gun.
Good luck. Is this failure a thing common in G-rocks, and nobody else? Never heard of it before.
 
Breechface cracks are not THAT rare...I have seen both a G27 and a G23
with cracked breechfaces. The G23 had about 50 rounds through it. The
owner dry-fired the gun to store it and heard a funny sound...spanking new gun.
 
defiant73a your comment about cleaning would stand up IF snap caps didn't exist. It never friggin ceases to amaze me that photo's posted by our own THR's where something broke because of (at least partially) dry firing without snap caps. So buy the doggon things already ya cheap ...whatever's...!
 
I don't think it was caused by dry firing at all, I think it just happened to break during dry firing. Dry firing isn't going to cause that kind of failure, and a snap cap isn't going to prevent that kind of failure.
 
Agreed. Dry firing is not causing the problem.

Remove a Glock striker and look how short the blade tip is that protrudes through the breechface, and how much of it actually sticks out when the striker is fully forward in the firing position. The breechface is painfully thin, but only in the small area immediately around the firing pin hole, consistant with the diameter of the striker channel.

It's not a coincidence that the cracks match the imprint of the case head.
 
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