SKS's of the detachable mag flavor?

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all the aftermarket stuff for an sks (except the detachable mags) are for California. It's the quickest way to getting an EBR here. No AK's (except some fixed mag ones) no ar-15's except for the unlisted ones, and then no pistol grip, etc.

If you live where you can get an AK, get one! for me and every other Californian that can't.

Yes the chinese-detach-mag ones are cool, but you can't get those here either.

Get an sks, better sights, detachable mag kit (not in PRK), black stock, tactical sling. you'll have and ugly worthless expensive rifle that cost twice what an AK cost.
 
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i dont know where you guys are gettin an 500 for an sks but i can go to the gun show and get an "unissued" yugo w/ the bayonet for $169. and ive personally tried two different aftermarket 30 rounders and they were both junk. get some stripper clips and i guarantee you can keep up a rate of fire that will astound and annoy your neighbors
 
Chinese Type 56 at 500 big ones? Well, maybe this one, and only if Chairman Mao autographed the barrel with an electropencil. :neener:

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It won't be any cheaper if you get an AK or the like to shoot it in either.

True. So I want the best value I can get in the first instance. Do I buy a $500 SKS D and then turn around and buy $150 of ammo? Or do I buy the $290 AK WASR and then buy $150 of ammo? At one time, purchasing the ammo wouldn't have been a huge consideration. But $500 and then another $150 on top of it...well...that would steer me clear of the SKS-D.
 
The detachable mags will usually also affect reliability in a negative manner- sometimes mildly, sometimes they will make that rifle into an unwieldy club.
i dont know where you guys are gettin an 500 for an sks but i can go to the gun show and get an "unissued" yugo w/ the bayonet for $169. and ive personally tried two different aftermarket 30 rounders and they were both junk. get some stripper clips and i guarantee you can keep up a rate of fire that will astound and annoy your neighbors
We are not talking about a regular SKS with the detachable "duckbill" mags. The SKS "D" and "M" models were made at the factory to accept AK47 mags. Not some aftermarket wannabee AK mag, but the real thing.
 
We are not talking about a regular SKS with the detachable "duckbill" mags. The SKS "D" and "M" models were made at the factory to accept AK47 mags. Not some aftermarket wannabee AK mag, but the real thing.

My SKS has been quite reliable. However, the magazines don't slip into the well as easily as they do my MAK-90 or FEG SA-85. Occasionally the magazines can be a bit more difficult to remove...especially the 5 round mags.

When I bought my SKS, they were being sold as "Sporters". I would like to know the differences between th "D" and "M" models. I'm sure someone on THR has the answer.

I do shoot my SKS Paratrooper more then the Sporter. The 30 round mags are cool, but 10 round fixed box mags do a fine job plinking too.
 
Model D rifles used military style stocks and had bayonet lugs (although some were imported minus bayonet, and a small few minus the lug in order to meet changing US import restrictions). Model M rifles had no bayonet lug and used either a thumbhole or monte-carlo style stock. Both model D and M used AK-47 magazines (and as a result had no bolt hold open feature on the rifle) and had the shorter 16 inch paratrooper barrels.
I'm not sure how accurate this is. I got it the quick and dirty way: Wikipedia (see my sig line).

Evidently, minor differences are no bolt hold open and the "D" bolts have no stripper-clip guides.
 
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So I want the best value I can get in the first instance. Do I buy a $500 SKS D and then turn around and buy $150 of ammo? Or do I buy the $290 AK WASR and then buy $150 of ammo? At one time, purchasing the ammo wouldn't have been a huge consideration. But $500 and then another $150 on top of it...well...that would steer me clear of the SKS-D.
We've always been in agreement on not spending $500 for the SKS. I stated $350-$400 was what I considered a reasonable price for a really nice one.

In my opinion - and it's all subjective, of course - a monte carlo stocked SKS-M just has it all over any WASR I've ever had the displeasure to put to my shoulder. The WASR, like most cheap AKs, is just darned uncomfortable and awkward for me. The SKS-M is a joy to shoot.

Again, that's all just my experience. But for a few dollars more, you get a lot more fun.
 
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However, the magazines don't slip into the well as easily as they do my MAK-90 or FEG SA-85. Occasionally the magazines can be a bit more difficult to remove...especially the 5 round mags.
Boy oh boy, you nailed that one dead center!

The freaking 5 rounders are a bit more difficult to remove, to insert, to keep from taking a freaking 12 pound sledge hammer to. :banghead:

I hate them.

The larger ones require paying attention, but at least they actually do work.
 
My buddy has a SKS with the detachable mags that he never shoots and wont get rid of for less than $500, which I think is kinda steep.

Roadwild17,

You sure your buddy wants to get rid of it? For that price, he won't. Something tells me that he really likes that rifle and decided to set a price that if high enough, he would part with it for.

500 bucks will get you a lot in the SKS world, a brand "new" Yugo 59/66 in minty condition isn't over 200. "Shooter" grades can be had for as little as 80 bucks. That leaves lots of cash for accessories (which I wouldn't touch on an SKS, not my cup of tea) and ammo. Or, get yourself a WASR-10 Romanian AK variant for 300 and then get 200 bucks of ammo. Either way, they are both fun rifles.
 
I like my SKS-M. I've had AKs and yes, compared to $500 you can get a WASR and have change left for ammo, or you could get more interesting and pick up a 5.45x39mm WASR and again, some ammo (ditto on the 5.56x45mm WASR).

I like the SKS-M better than any AK I've tried. But this is entirely my own personal preference. I've noticed that I tend to shoot better with thumbhole stocks, hence why I just refinished the factory thumbhole instead of getting something more exotic.

And, frankly I doubt you'll find as good of a deal as I did on mine unless you look really hard and know people. I got my M with two chinese 30 rounders for $170. And frankly, it's the best bargain on a "cheap gun" I've ever had the pleasure of having.

So unless you're partial to the SKS-M or SKS-D's ergonomics, or getting a sweetheart of a deal, go with the AK.

Technical stuff: The SKS-D and SKS-M differ in the following ways...
The SKS-D has a 20" barrel, standard SKS stock, and a folding spike bayonet.
The SKS-M has either a thumbhole or monte carlo stock, 16" barrel, and no bayonet.

Both use a bolt that is significantly different from a standard SKS. Otherwise the D can interchange with parts for a standard SKS, and the M can interchange parts with a ChinCom "Paratrooper".
 
OK, I'vs noticed a lot of SKS-M & SKS-D throwen around. How would I tell one if I found one? A

lso I would like to get the plastic stock set and retractable butstock, is this possible on a M or D modle? Something like this with the 20-30 rd detach mag: http://www.impactguns.com/store/RI1093-TAC.html but hopefully a bit better than the yugo.

Whatr the difference between a M and a D?
 
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