ArchAngelCD
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Since I'm new to all of this maybe this question won't sound so bad. What with all the talk about the lock on the new J frames? What's so bad about it? Just leave it unlocked, no? (I'm serious, I don't know what the big deal is)
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AStone
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AACD,
Good question(s).
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Good question(s).
<Waiting for an intelligent response>
Serpico
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Gargoyle357
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There seem to be 2 schools of thought.
1) It is ugly!
Purely subjective and of no functional concern.
2) It may lock on its own and leave the gun disabled.
This issue may or may not exist. I've heard both sides and I personally am fine having a lock on my 642. There are stories of some 642's locking when dropped. I personally can't say if they are true or not. Maybe I'm cocky, maybe I just think if I drop my gun during a SHTF situation I will have bigger issues than a locked snubbie, but either way I am still fine with a lock on my 642.
Different strokes for different folks.
This is in no way meant to incite a debate. Only trying to provide the abridged version for AcrhAngel.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=150016247143&rd=1&rd=1
I just purchased these grips for my 642, I will post a picture of them on when I get them. BTW if anyone is intrested the seller does take best offers and I got them for $14.99, and he does have different woods and finishes for j frames in his store.
I just purchased these grips for my 642, I will post a picture of them on when I get them. BTW if anyone is intrested the seller does take best offers and I got them for $14.99, and he does have different woods and finishes for j frames in his store.
ArchAngelCD
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mastinson,
Those are some very nice grips and at a great price too... My only problem with those thin grips is, do they reduce your ability to shoot well? I would like to put nice wooden grips on my J frame but I'm worried about sacrificing accuracy. (I know about Tyler T-Grips but I don't like the look)
Those are some very nice grips and at a great price too... My only problem with those thin grips is, do they reduce your ability to shoot well? I would like to put nice wooden grips on my J frame but I'm worried about sacrificing accuracy. (I know about Tyler T-Grips but I don't like the look)
outfieldjack
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Bought my NIB 642 this past weekend at the gun show. $370 on the box, but when they opened one under the counter for me it had $350 inside the box.... so I got mine for $350.
Now I need to find a good deal on either a 205 or 405 CT grips.
Jack
Now I need to find a good deal on either a 205 or 405 CT grips.
Jack
Finally recieved the grips today and I love them, when iordered them iwas afraid that they might be to light but after I got them today and put them on the light goes great with the silver. BTW they conceal so much better than the stock grips and even though they probably won't be to fun to shoot, I don't really plan on shooting this gun much anyway.
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Need a nice Pocket Holster?
I got one for sale on our groups "Accessory" forum:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=240493
I got one for sale on our groups "Accessory" forum:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=240493
aguyindallas
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How is the fit and finish of those grips? For the money, they look like a decent deal to me.
They are a little loose till the screw is tightened up real snug and if they are not really tight the top of the grips will slide side to side just a hair but not a problem if you tighten them tight. Other than that they are great.
Just shot 40 nice and soft 125gr reloads. Man, what a difference from factory loads. It shoots real nice and I can shoot more with less discomfort. Should reduce wear and tear on the gun also. I still throw in a cylinder of +P now and then just to remember what it feels like.
Compac Pro -- the way to go
Speaking of "what a difference": based on a recommendation from Marshall in another thread, I bought a set of Pachmayr Compac Pros for my 642.
Wow, what a difference over the Crimson Trace LG-205 laser grips I had been using. Last night I put approximately 75 158gr standard pressure rounds through it. Just as easy to conceal in a pocket holster, but NO discomfort -- no bleeding web of hand or trigger finger, no flinch, etc. -- and I was (mostly) on target at ranges of 3 to 10 yards. I could have easily shot 125 more rounds, if I'd had the time and ammo. (I was also exercising my SP101, and the range was about to close for the evening).
I'll happilly give up the laser to be able to actually practice more than 1 or 2 cylinders at a time. I highly recommend these grips. Thanks, Marshall!
ZXD9 said:
Speaking of "what a difference": based on a recommendation from Marshall in another thread, I bought a set of Pachmayr Compac Pros for my 642.
Wow, what a difference over the Crimson Trace LG-205 laser grips I had been using. Last night I put approximately 75 158gr standard pressure rounds through it. Just as easy to conceal in a pocket holster, but NO discomfort -- no bleeding web of hand or trigger finger, no flinch, etc. -- and I was (mostly) on target at ranges of 3 to 10 yards. I could have easily shot 125 more rounds, if I'd had the time and ammo. (I was also exercising my SP101, and the range was about to close for the evening).
I'll happilly give up the laser to be able to actually practice more than 1 or 2 cylinders at a time. I highly recommend these grips. Thanks, Marshall!
Serpico
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Picked these up off ebay for under a hundred....
Recoil
This may have already been asked and answered, but I hope you will bear with me on this question. I have the 642 with Model 405 Crimson Trace laser grips. When I go the range to practice, which I try to do at least every few weeks, I find the recoil using the range purchased practice ammo to be quite painful after shooting 15 or so rounds. The range will not let us bring our own ammo. Short of using wad cutters, I would appreciate any suggestions on what I can do, or ammo I can use, to reduce the recoil. Thanks.
Ron
This may have already been asked and answered, but I hope you will bear with me on this question. I have the 642 with Model 405 Crimson Trace laser grips. When I go the range to practice, which I try to do at least every few weeks, I find the recoil using the range purchased practice ammo to be quite painful after shooting 15 or so rounds. The range will not let us bring our own ammo. Short of using wad cutters, I would appreciate any suggestions on what I can do, or ammo I can use, to reduce the recoil. Thanks.
Ron
aguyindallas
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To be completely hosest, I would find another range.
cslinger
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It sounds as if you are reasonably recoil sensitive. This is not a flame just an observation. I wouldn't think the range is providing you with particularly HOT ammo so to speak.
That being said I think your best bet is a different set of grips. Something with a bit more rubber and meat on them. This will likely make a world of difference to you.
As for ammo, you might want to try running some really HOT stuff through the gun and then backing down to the normal stuff. This might "mentally" make you believe it is not as stout as before.
Those are what I would try first. I would also look for another range.
That being said I think your best bet is a different set of grips. Something with a bit more rubber and meat on them. This will likely make a world of difference to you.
As for ammo, you might want to try running some really HOT stuff through the gun and then backing down to the normal stuff. This might "mentally" make you believe it is not as stout as before.
Those are what I would try first. I would also look for another range.
Wesson Smith
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re. Recoil
I’m new here, but I guess I can sympathize with RonJ. I’m about to pull the trigger (pardon the pun) on a 642 purchase as my new CCW. I spent quite a bit of time going through most of The 642 Club’s thread posts. It seems to me that more than a few veteran posters here allude to the fact that the 642 is basically a bitch to practice with, in terms of the recoil factor. My CCW instructor (who is also a cop) drilled into us the wisdom of regularly practicing with your concealed carry weapon of choice. He pointed out several reasons for this, not the least of which revolves around legal liability issues. His point was that if you are ever (God forbid) hauled into a court of law on a use of deadly force/self defense scenario, one of the first things a competent prosecutor will attempt to determine is your competency with the weapon you carry. I make a point of setting aside a one-hour session at the range (about 100-150 rounds fired) once a week, with my current carry – a Springfield XD-9. The guys who work at the range see me each and every week, and know what I’m there for. I may sound a tad paranoid, but I’m going to stick with the advice of a 25-year law enforcement veteran! In any even, I have concerns regarding the 642 and my ability to effectively practice with it. Any further advice or words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated!
I’m new here, but I guess I can sympathize with RonJ. I’m about to pull the trigger (pardon the pun) on a 642 purchase as my new CCW. I spent quite a bit of time going through most of The 642 Club’s thread posts. It seems to me that more than a few veteran posters here allude to the fact that the 642 is basically a bitch to practice with, in terms of the recoil factor. My CCW instructor (who is also a cop) drilled into us the wisdom of regularly practicing with your concealed carry weapon of choice. He pointed out several reasons for this, not the least of which revolves around legal liability issues. His point was that if you are ever (God forbid) hauled into a court of law on a use of deadly force/self defense scenario, one of the first things a competent prosecutor will attempt to determine is your competency with the weapon you carry. I make a point of setting aside a one-hour session at the range (about 100-150 rounds fired) once a week, with my current carry – a Springfield XD-9. The guys who work at the range see me each and every week, and know what I’m there for. I may sound a tad paranoid, but I’m going to stick with the advice of a 25-year law enforcement veteran! In any even, I have concerns regarding the 642 and my ability to effectively practice with it. Any further advice or words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated!
ChuckB
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Amen, Wesson Smith. I flat out don't agree with the "practice a little, carry a lot" crowd. If the SHTF, you darned well better know how to shoot the gun like it was a part of you. Some repeat the old saw about most encounters involving 1-2 shots, at under twelve feet. Well, what if a B.G. is bent on slitting your throat, is approaching you, and is, say, 25 feet away? wait until he's "12 feet or less"? I think not. If you can practice a lot with a snubby, then that's your pocket gun; if not, look elsewhere. Way more than my $0.02, but I meant every word!
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Mad Chemist
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but S&B wadcutters are very mild and almost pleasant to shoot from my 642. They are a little more expensive than the standard stuff. If your not equipped to reload then they are well worth it.
jad0110
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Wesson Smith,
If you get a J Frame, your best bet may be a little bigger set of grips like the Pachmayr Compac Professionals or the standard Compacs as seen on the prior page. I bought a set for my 686 to replace the stock Hogues with finger grooves and am very happy with them.
Personally, the recoil with the standard boot grips doesn't bother me too much, though my hand is always a little sore the next day or two. If you don't mind shooting a service size 357 Magnum, you probably won't mind the 642, though the recoil is different. I guess the 642 is a little sharper/snappier and the 357 out of say, a K frame is heavier.
BTW, even the best shooters can develop a flinch when shooting guns with significant recoil. That's why I always bring along a 22 DA revolver. I warm up on the 22, shoot whatever else I brang (9mm, 357, snub 38), and end on the 22. Kinda like warm up and cool down before and after heavy exercise. Helps to avoid solidifying bad habbits like flinching. Dry firing is nice too of course.
I used to use a DA Taurus 22LR, but I have since upgraded to a S&W K-22 Masterpiece. I'm of the opinion that every gun nut should own at least one snub nose and one 22 revolver.
My snub (642):
And my K-22
BTW, someone mentioned previously about pocket holsters. I don't think you can go wrong with the round cut Robert Mika:
If you get a J Frame, your best bet may be a little bigger set of grips like the Pachmayr Compac Professionals or the standard Compacs as seen on the prior page. I bought a set for my 686 to replace the stock Hogues with finger grooves and am very happy with them.
Personally, the recoil with the standard boot grips doesn't bother me too much, though my hand is always a little sore the next day or two. If you don't mind shooting a service size 357 Magnum, you probably won't mind the 642, though the recoil is different. I guess the 642 is a little sharper/snappier and the 357 out of say, a K frame is heavier.
BTW, even the best shooters can develop a flinch when shooting guns with significant recoil. That's why I always bring along a 22 DA revolver. I warm up on the 22, shoot whatever else I brang (9mm, 357, snub 38), and end on the 22. Kinda like warm up and cool down before and after heavy exercise. Helps to avoid solidifying bad habbits like flinching. Dry firing is nice too of course.
I used to use a DA Taurus 22LR, but I have since upgraded to a S&W K-22 Masterpiece. I'm of the opinion that every gun nut should own at least one snub nose and one 22 revolver.
My snub (642):
And my K-22
BTW, someone mentioned previously about pocket holsters. I don't think you can go wrong with the round cut Robert Mika:
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