Wal-Mart horror story.

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This happened a while ago, but not to long ago so let me share this. I am out with my dad looking to buy me a new shotgun. I go into my local Wal-Mart(this is before the 1,000 W-M stores won't sell firearms act) I get up to the counter with no one there of course & I see a clearance to sell Remington 11-87 Premier for like $400.00, I then find & get some assistance from this one lady. We tell her that we would like to see the shotgun I mentioned, so she pulls it out of the rack hands it to my dad to look at it, after he is done he is about to hand it to me when the woman asks if I am 18, I say no, although I was almost 18. She says I have to be 18 to look at it. I was in shock, the nerve of this woman!:what: I have been to many different gun stores handed many different types of firearms, rifles, shotguns, even handguns with no trouble at all. Being Christian I did not make any arguement with her & told my dad to hand it back to her, so we could go take our buisness somewhere else. Man was I steamed:fire: , like 3 years ago in the same store there was a salesman there who was a hunter/shooter who I bought my 20 Gauge shotgun from. We had a conversation & he showed me different shotguns, what a shame that things have changed in that short time.:(. Please share your comments as to how I was right & how she was wrong. As far as I know there are no laws stating that a minor can not be showed a firearm in a store, especially with an adult present.
 
Please share your comments as to how I was right & how she was wrong

It's not that simple, get yourself some book learnin' save your pennies and grab yourself one of them lobbying licenses and change the law.

guess what, in some places you can't even look at a gun unless it's on a cops duty belt or in the hands of the guy who's robbing you.

plenty of people are always complaining about walmart, why don't you ever complain about the clerks at sears that know nothing about guns too.

there's no free lunch and you can't expect a big store to undercut everyones price by hiring a dude to run sporting goods that knows about guns, camping and fishing like some alaskan guide. it's unreasonable to say you're right and some poor chump getting minimum wage that's a paycheck from poverty is wrong because they want to keep their job. the function of a walmart employee is to keep the shelves stocked and make sure people don't walk away with the store not to educate people about A/V equipment or fashion.

it's a free country for the time being so we can all shop where we wish, the reason some walmarts no longer stock firearms is because it's not economic. it's nothing new it's not law it's the market and it's not worth holding FFLs and going through the trouble of finding people that can handle filling out a transfer form. it used to be you could order that gun you wanted through the mail and it came right to your door, they didn't even require serial numbers.

don't fault others for the mess that the bill of rights are in and see what you can do about it, you don't have to write your elected officials although it helps alot more than some believe. instead learn to be articulate, learn to allow others their views and how to share your own and set a good example for others. introduce as many people to shooting and how to handle a firearm responsibly, I feel that's the best anyone can do.
 
"Please share your comments as to how I was right & how she was wrong"

It's no big deal that they didn't want to show you a gun. Store policy is store policy, ignorance is ignorance.

And the quoted statement seems very 17 year old of you.
 
pedaldude

You hit it right on the nose. Go to your local Lowe's, ACE or Home Depot. Do they have licensed plumbers, electricians, etc? Nope, they provide minimal training and then turn the employee loose. We then go to the store and expect them to solve all of our problems with the minimal amount of information we provide.
 
This should be a disclaimer when you join the high road "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU SHOP AT WAL MART"

... except when you need a 100-round box of Winchester White Box ammo in 9mm for $9-10.

Or boxes of ten high-brass Federal 1oz 12-gauge slugs for $5 or less...

:d
 
They wont let you hold a bottle of booze either, or beer ..Get over it, your turn will be here soon....:)
 
All in due time young one!:rolleyes:
The rest of us had to wait until we were 18 or 21 to enjoy the priviledges of adulthood also. You weren't singled out!
 
I hate to say it, but I was in your position once, a long time ago. The gun shop I frequented suddenly decided it was going to be 18+ unless accompanied by a parent or guardian. By that point, I had been buying my reloading stuff from them for so long I just ignored it. Thing is, most of the world isn't intended for those under 18. I'm surprised you havn't become accustomed to it. Regardless, this shall pass... you can go look at an 1187 at another store. If the price is really that good, I don't see any reason to "show them who's boss". Boycotts are utterly worthless if done by yourself.

The thing that pisses me off in regards to walmart, is the store I frequent recently decided they were no longer going to sell fabric... I hate to say it, but when a man decides he needs to sew, why would he go to a regular sewing shop. Why not pick up a quart of oil and a shovel while he's at it! Otherwise he might get mired down in seam tape and fancy tassels.
 
18

Since you have to be 18 to be able to purchase a long gun I can see why they wouldn't allow you to handle the gun.

I think the shops that allow you to handle guns are in the wrong.

You can't go car shopping at 15 and expect them to let you test drive something.

18 to purchase long guns. 21 to purchase handguns. Yes... I know your father can purchase the gun 'for' you... but he can't give it to you. He can only allow you to use it for hunting or for use under his supervision. It has to remain his until you are 18.
 
Hmmm, yesterday I was at WalMart with my 6 year old son. I had the gun counter lady pull out the Davy Crickett 22lr, no question who THAT is for with it's ultra short stock. I told my son in a conversational tone, "Now the lady is going to hand me the rifle, because the law says she can't hand it to you." The sales lady smiled, handed it over, and watched me as I fit tested my son, (pretty good, gonna get one when $ day comes around again), with no quarrel, hassle, etc.Maybe just because this is AZ, with long established "gun culture".;)
 
I have a statement to make here. Lets say a father/mother & his/her son/daughter went to a sporting goods store to buy a youth sized rifle or shotgun, if the youth can not handle it how can he/she be fitted for one then? I think I speak for myself when it comes to lawfull minors having firearm rights too, my grandpa lived in a time when he was a kid & could go walk down to the local hardware store to buy a box of .22 shells. Or when my dad was a kid, he could walk down the street right in town with a .22 rifle to go plinking. People did not think anything of it then. Now things have gotten so wacky you have to be 18 to buy a bottle of BBs for a BB gun.
 
ya

'snot a horror story. However, it's good that you feel a frustration, and your on our side of things (rising to the occasion of exercising your right to keep and bear arms). So let the frustration just motivate you to become as educated as possible so you can make your points well. If you are the next generation of RKBA's you have a lot to live up to, but a lot more opportunity to decide the fate of this nation. With learnin' and maturity you will have a greater influence over your 'community', and will perhaps have the auxilliary benefit of not assuming you are always right and "she" is always wrong. :)

st

ps - and besides I always shop at WalMart, the People's Army needs rice. :scrutiny:
 
...well...

...Dad could have handed it to you...You have to deal with whatever policies exist at all retail stores...It's not the law, it's a store policy...When you're doing the choosing and buying, just remember how that made you feel and decide for yourself if it's worth it to give them your money in the future...

...don't get mad, vote with your money...:scrutiny:
 
People become Barstool litigators too frequently for my Taste. Particularily when in a position of dispensing information regarding the Law. (This is in reference to the Salesperson At Walmart)
The other side of the coin in this case is she did not want to jepordize her job. She May have been misinformed but was acting on the only information she had at the time.
I haven't shopped at Walmart in some time. Not the least of which is them caving in to the Stupidity of picking and choosing what stores to sell firearms at.
 
Actually, during the Clinton admistration the White House was trying to get some regulations in place where someone under 18 couldn't go into a gun shop, or the gun department of a larger one.

Why?

Because they hoped to prevent youngsters from becoming interested in guns in the first place. In this case the 17 year-old was with a parent, and in the parent's judgment his son was old enough to handle a shotgun that he, (the parent) might buy.

The correct procedure in this case would have been to ask for a supervisor or manager and ask if what happened was story policy, or an "associates" private opinion. If it was policy I'd walk out. Incidentally, in our local (southestern Arizona) Wal-Mart, young folks are alowed to handle firearms when they are with an adult.
 
Way back when, I was 14 and couldn't buy a gun, so I got a single shot .410 for Christmas. I could however walk into the local Fred's Dollar Store and purchase all of the ammo I could carry. Seems like it was $2.50 a box. Those were the days my friend. :)
 
The thing that pisses me off in regards to walmart, is the store I frequent recently decided they were no longer going to sell fabric... I hate to say it, but when a man decides he needs to sew, why would he go to a regular sewing shop. Why not pick up a quart of oil and a shovel while he's at it! Otherwise he might get mired down in seam tape and fancy tassels.

I know your pain, man. WM still sells fabric here, but they are getting ready to close it down. :fire: Since there is only ONE other fabric stocker in town, it looks as if I'm going to have to learn how to get along with the b.....well, let's just let that go, for now. :D

Pops
 
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Sounds like company policy to cover their assest instead of the slaves, I mean Walmart employee's own rules. Anyway, why do people even shop at Walmart? The company is very anti worker rights, and American business. Please Boycott them.
 
This should be a disclaimer when you join the high road "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU SHOP AT WAL MART

Except for the fact that no one sells 9mm ammo as cheap as them, my local gunstore charges four dollars more than Wal-Mart for WWB.


I guess the NO MORE WALMART THREADS comment from the mods sometime back was missed...

Emphasis on comment, it's not a rule. This is legal and gun related because his beef is with the fact that he's almost 18 and was with his dad, but they wouldn't let him look at a long gun. Wal-Mart of course has the right to refrain from allowing anyone (regardless of age) to handle their firearms.


The company is very anti worker rights

Why? Because they don't hire union companies to construct their stores? Why use union companies who will charge you out the butt when there's a company that will do the same work for half the cost? It's called economics.
 
I've got two words for you pal...gun show. For the record, I'm 19, though I wasn't really into guns until after I turned 18. At the one I go to from time to time, they say, technically, that you have to be 21 to so much as handle a handgun. However, I have fondled many handguns there, and nobody has said a word to me. I have been told I look much older than I really am, but I don't think those silly rules are strictly enforced. You might want to consider checking around if there's a gun show nearby, and go there instead of Wally World.
 
If you would like to start a new thread debating the merits of whether those under 18 ought to be allowed to handle firearms in a store, please do so, as it would be a discussion well worth having.

However, Wal*Mart + Legal & Political = Flame War, so I'm going to close this one.
 
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