Pocket Carry Poll

Kahr PM9.

True pocket pistol, not as small as a P3AT, but not much larger...and a "real" 9mm.

Since you included the Rohrbaugh, the PM9 is in "the same category"...

Simple, Kahr PM9. Rides in my pocket in a DeSantis Nemesis pocket holster everyday.

It was P3AT, and will be when I return from overseas. I will also look into the PF-9 when I return.

Agreed. Kahr PM9

I voted for the Seecamp~! I own one of Larry's LWS-32's,
and its a proven winner~!

Kahr PM9 is too thick for my pockets, Seecamp is too heavy. Only the P3AT works decently for my pants pockets. Rorhbaugh might work but it price way more than I'm willing to pay for a handgun.

If you are talking inside pocket of a coat then they'd all work fine.

--wally.

For me, pants pocket is the P3AT, coat pocket is the RAMI. I always use a pocket holster (Nemisis and HBE respectively).

38spl+P from a J-frame (S&W 642)...

I chose the Bersa cuz my father sent me home with his along with a few others so he dont have to worry about all that he has getting stolen at one shot.

Seecamp is too heavy. Only the P3AT works decently for my pants pockets. Rorhbaugh might work but it price way more than I'm willing to pay for a handgun.

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Seecamp is too heavy? Rorhbaugh might work? The rorhbaugh weighs more empty then the Seecamp does full...

I'd go w/ one of the Kahrs personally

When i do pocket carry, it's a Glock 33 357 SIG. No problems with concealing for me.

Seecamp in either .32 or .380. Because they are the exact same size the only decision is which caliber and how much you'll pay.

KelTek simply has too many reliability issues.

Bersa is simply too big and heavy. A pocket gun should be small and not pull your pants down.

I like my P11, fits MY pockets. But, I voted for the P3AT just because for the average guy, that thing will fit ANY pocket.

KelTek simply has too many reliability issues.

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Whos? Not mine. And, I prefer 11 rounds of +P 9mm 115 grain JHP to any mouse caliber in lesser volume.

I've got the Bersa Thunder and the P3AT.

P3AT wins the (pants) pocket carry battle between the two of them, for me anyway.

The Bersa does pretty well in a larger coat pocket, but then so does some of my other stuff.

Don't get my wrong, though, I like the Bersa. For the price it's well made and fun to shoot. Factory mags are a little on the $ side, though, and the only ones I have had success with are from the factory.

Hope that helps.

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Seecamp is too heavy. Only the P3AT works decently for my pants pockets. Rorhbaugh might work but it price way more than I'm willing to pay for a handgun.
Seecamp is too heavy? Rorhbaugh might work? The rorhbaugh weighs more empty then the Seecamp does full...

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You are correct. I said might based on limited handling of the only Rohrbaugh I'd seen. Checking Bobo's size comparison chart (see the sticky thread at the top of this forum) it'd be at least 3-4 oz heavier than the Seacamp, so too heavy. Its the dynamics of a dense weight in your pocket that ends up being the problem. Depends on your pockets of course. Coat or jacket pocket is much easier than pants pocket, around here jackets and coats are pretty much out 8 months of the year, I pitty the guys that have to wear a suit to work, at first thought it might seem to make it easy to carry anything, but if you have to spend much time outdoors the sweat will print the gun if you don't take of your jacket

--wally.

Kahr PM9 is too thick for my pockets, Seecamp is too heavy.

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Kahr PM9 is no thicker than the P3AT or the Seecamp. Slightly heavier than the former and lighter than the latter.

I live in the DFW area, so I am familiar with 9-month summers and the associated carry issues. I am also a sub-150 pounder so I don't have a lot of extra "natural concealment".

If you cannot fit a PM9 in your front pants pocket, I have to wonder why. Mine works with jeans, khakis, boating shorts...and I am not of the baggy- draggy generation, so my pants fit.

I can put my PM9 in the same DeSantis Nemesis that holds my AirWeight j-frame. Either will disappear in the front pocket of most any pants I own.

That same DeSantis Nemesis will also hold a Kahr P45 or a 3" 1911. While not quite as concealable in-pocket, both are workable...especially in our short "winter".

Kahr PM9 is no thicker than the P3AT or the Seecamp. Slightly heavier than the former and lighter than the latter.

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I don't know what size chart you're looking at, but the one tacked to the top of this forum lists the P3AT at .77" wide and the Kahr at 1.10". That's a 1/3 of an inch, a significant difference in width.

The Kahr fully loaded is 20 oz. The KT fully loaded is 11 oz. Another very significant difference.

The thinness and lightness of the KT make it the perfect pocket pistol. It can even go in a shirt pocket or the pocket of a dress vest. In a pants pocket, in a holster that carries a spare mag, it just disappears and you'll forget it's there. I've carried mine in swim shorts and pajama pants.

I voted for the Seecamp because everytime that I've carried a semi auto in my pocket the mag release always gets hit and I am always having to re-seat the mag. The Seecamp's heel mag release should solve that problem.

Kahr PM9 in a thin Fist kydex holster is my favorite. The Taurus 905 in 9mm is a second favorite.

I voted for the Seecamp because everytime that I've carried a semi auto in my pocket the mag release always gets hit and I am always having to re-seat the mag. The Seecamp's heel mag release should solve that problem.

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I've had the same problem with both the P32 and the P3AT, but only when in a snug fitting pair of pants. A little dremel work on the release button solves the problem. Sure, it will now require a more deliberate push of the button to operate the mag release, but that's better than having the mag drop out when the gun is drawn. A heel mag release is certainly a good idea for a gun of this type though.

Apples to Apples

A lot of people with experience in the area of firearm power seem to feel that the 9mm/.38 is the LOWEST they would ever want to go as far as handgun caliber. Seems you need to question why you want a CCW, and then decide if a .380 or .32 will have enough power given a dire situation.

If you start at 9mm/.38, then you are comparing apples to apples, and narrow a lot of your options.

J-frame revolvers are a maninstay for very good reason. And for me, the PM9 has been the perfect compromise of size to power ratio.

If you believe some diehards, nothing but a 1911(cocked & locked) will do!

What you can comfortably carry in your pocket is relative to your clothing and your personality. I pocket carry a Makarov in 9x18 in shorts without any trouble. My secret? I wear a belt.

I appreciate the many advantages of pocket carry, chiefly the fact that you can have your hand on your gun and nobody needs to be aware, if you ever find yourself in one of those situations where trouble looks like it might head your way but hasn't developed yet. The biggest downside is it's almost impossible to draw a pocket gun while seated in a car.