Packing on First Few Dates

Razorburn

Many so called liberal girls in college become conservative when they start raising kids and paying taxes. I suspect many young men do to.
I was very liberal when I was young. In those days however liberals were not against civil rights like gun ownership.
here is a picture of a liberal women


and here is a conservative



BTW

I tell a women that I not only carry but that I am a right wing gun nut, I can always get a date if I want one.
If a gal does not like me the way I am I want to know right away.

A good first date is a shooting date, and thanks to NV law I do not have to avoid restaurants.

Pack , you might find out she's packing a bigger pistol than your carrying . (At the time I met my wife I carried a CZ75 and she prefered a full size 1911 )

Arfin Greebly

<<Troutman
Hey, young man!
What are you doing with a picture of my daughter?!>


Oh! OOO! I guess... I can call you Dad, now? Or Mr. Greebly?

(.......my daughter) This is why I never leave the house.

...she has the right to know that she's spending time with someone who is armed...

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But if she's going to spend time with you (and presumably the idea is that one date will lead to another), she deserves to know up front (for both individuals' sakes and to make the date happier for everyone).

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I could not DISagree more. I do not feel that I have a right to undisclosed personal information from any girl I date, especially on the first date. Likewise, I do not tell girls many things on a first date... I do not offer the information that I ride a motorcycle, or that I have several cars, or how much money I make, or even that I own my house. I keep all those things to myself because it can falsely raise a girl's interest level. I also won't tell her that I am licensed and carry a gun. ...and I will not be carrying if the date is heading towards a bar.

Does a first date have a "right" to know that I am carrying a knife? How about car keys that could be used as a weapon? How about my martial arts training? I do not agree with lying to dates, or changing who you are to prevent scaring her off. If she comes out and asks, I'll will tell her whatever she wants to know. That does not mean that I will just come out and offer the information that I have a large scar on my back and it might scare her off when she finds out. You can never know what will scare a date off, so don't make those assumptions. Find out who she is, just like she is doing to you. That's what first dates are for.

I wouldn't conceal it from a girl for a month or anything. However, if you feel more comfortable carrying (why do you carry again??), then carry concealed and don't worry.

Many so called liberal girls in college become conservative when they start raising kids and paying taxes. I suspect many young men do to.
I was very liberal when I was young. In those days however liberals were not against civil rights like gun ownership.

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I know, hence the quote I put in. And also why I don't tell them right away. They're not died in the wool, raving mad, bra burning hippy liberals, and open up to at least tolerate guns when I break them in slowly. The vast, vast, majority of girls in college are liberal. At least 95%. I take them to normal places and do normal young people things. Things that conservatives would probably frown upon. Later, if we like each other, I bring in the guns thing. I'm not a die-hard right winger anyway. I'm more of a moderate. Heck, I'd be a Democrat except for being pro-life and pro-guns. And I'm fine with that. I'm not sure what you meant by those pics... not only do I find neither one attractive, too old for me, but if you want to compare the looks of liberal and con girls by showing photos, obviously you're going to get blown out of the water when we start showing pictures of the Angelinas/Jessica Albas/and countless other liberal supermodels and actresses... There's easily ten thousand times more beautiful, sexy liberal girls that come to mind in both media and real life than conservative girls. The only conservative girls I can think of, were the type covered up and doing little or nothing to show that they care about their appearances. Bad hair, acne, baggy clothes and such. Liberal girls though, I can think of many gorgeous, tanned, fit bodies, gym going blondes with long flowing hair who know how to dress to show it off. I fully stand by my assertion that liberal girls are typically far more attractive than conservative girls.


No man in his right mind would turn this down if she liked you, and was great in every way except if she were liberal and you believe she could be converted to at least being accepting of guns.


If I restricted myself to conservative girls, it would've been pretty miserable these last few years and I wouldn't have a lot going on for the rest of college. Carrying and guns aren't a big issue right now, as I won't carry while I'm in school. I'll mention it that I'm into guns, but I don't pop it up on the first date. I'm also into sportbiking, fishing, and many other things, but I necessarily bring those up right away either. I see how it goes, and I've never had a girl decide to break it off over my gun ownership or gun views after we'd had the time to develop a relationship.

My previous GF carried an XD40 and I had nothing on our first date! Alas it was not meant to be after several months but more dates have followed.

Carrying in IL usually involves a fanny pack.

They are a fashion faux paux and as such, on first dates, I usually don't wear it, but it's usually fairly close.

Being as it's in a fanny pack, some dates haven't ever seemed the wiser on what it contained even after seeing me for a while.

Of course, this is moot now that I've been dating someone for a year and a half. The only problem now is when we travel out of state and sometimes the womenfolk family members like to be huggy. I always reach under their arms to keep them from my waistline.

I'm sure more than a few would likely have experienced anxiety that someone was carrying a gun... where some of them live, if someone's got a gun, it isn't always legally carried. And certainly some of them would rather blame the gun rather than a person's behaviors for bad things that subsequently happen.

John

I noticed a case in a neighboring state where a
couple were carjacked by two men. The carjackers
killed the man, took the woman hostage, raped her
repeatedly over two days, then killed her.

You BOTH should pack on a date.

I carry at all times dates included.
I have been on quite a few dates and have had zero problems.
Couple have turned out quite comical.

Once I had it in the glovebox it was a hot night and I only had a belt holster for my then recently acquired glock. On the date i just wore a t-shirt and jeans. So it was in the glovebox and not on me.
After dinner she opened the glovebox. Not sure why but she did. Well she looks at me and goes "OHH look what I have" and starts digging in her purse
To pull out her CCW card and says "want to go back to my house and see my guns"

Another time I was out with a girl we had been out before a few times and I think she knew I carried. Well when things got down to business she pulled off my shirt, stopped and said "Now that is Sexy, but what do I do with it?"
I replied "It's a Glock it has a drop safety just throw it on the floor"

My moto is carry at all times. I don't care who I am with.

...she has the right to know that she's spending time with someone who is armed...

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She doesn't have ANY right to anything more than life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

She doesn't have ANY right to anything I don't wish to share with her... this includes how much is in my bank account, who I've slept with, how many credit cards are in my wallet and what, if any, balances are outstanding. She's not entitled to know about my three pet ferrets or my pet caribou or that I have a flashlight fetish (uh, for clarification, that's a non-sexual fetish). She doesn't have any right to know my FICO score, my annual income or how long my Johnson is, unless, of course, I want to share that with her .

Puleeze... She has a "RIGHT" to know I'm carrying?

My abilities to discern a person's character are the first test of a woman. Second, if she gets lucky enough to step inside my home and notices the mounted guns and Bob, my caribou, hanging high above my living room without freaking out, she's a candidate for more intimate activities.

And if she's a hoplophobe, I'd rather not waste time, money and energy chasing her skirt.

I'm happy with my current girlfriend... but should I ever re-enter the dating pool, I'd be delighted to encounter a shootin' iron on under a date's sweater. THAT would impress my pants off.

John

She doesn't have ANY right to anything more than life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

She doesn't have ANY right to anything I don't wish to share with her... this includes how much is in my bank account, who I've slept with, how many credit cards are in my wallet and what, if any, balances are outstanding. She's not entitled to know about my three pet ferrets or my pet caribou or that I have a flashlight fetish (uh, for clarification, that's a non-sexual fetish). She doesn't have any right to know my FICO score, my annual income or how long my Johnson is, unless, of course, I want to share that with her .

Puleeze... She has a "RIGHT" to know I'm carrying?

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I am right there with ya, Templar!!

I'd be delighted to encounter a shootin' iron on under a date's sweater. THAT would impress my pants off.

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I think ALL women should carry!!!

I would be totally impressed to find that my date was carrying. However, I envision finding it in an inner-thigh holster

Those don't look comfortable. Hard to draw on the move, too.



Here's one of THR members from Texas. She's engaged now anyway, so I won't post her email here. That is the backup. The primary is a PT-140.

Holy Smoke

That's some serious accessorizing!

"I'd show you my backup, but I don't know you that well."

Gunsmith

In those days however liberals were not against civil rights . . .

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Absolutely priceless.

No further comment required.

Well, My clothing doesn't fit unless all my CCW gear is in place...

And in the first 3 dates we will go to the range...
(Kinda tells where I stand)

As far as conservative women not being hot... I just moved, but the girl I was dating is 5' tall, size 0, C cup...

No conservative hotties my @$$!

Follow up on the carjack: one arrest was in a neighboring state,
the carjack was in Knoxville.

A good example of why you both should carry:

I had quite the opposite happen to me...over a couple years ago. 'A girl that I was seeing, she had come over to spend the night, and she was the one that pulled a Taurus 9mm out of her purse and placed it on the nightstand. We were both packing heat that night.

I've been armed on several dates without the girl even knowing I was armed. Unless I made it to the point where she felt my gun. And by that time the girl didn't mind.

Quote:

"And just to help you guys stay on track, I don't drink and I'm not looking for a piece of A--."

In my experience, the age of the female being dated has a lot to do with their attitude towards guns. The younger they are, the more likely they are to feel uncomfortable around someone lawfully armed. The older, the more comfortable.

This one girl I 'hung out' with for a while never knew I carried, and when the subject came up about people being armed, I said "Well you have never noticed when I have carried a gun in your presence". It took her by surprise and it wasn't because she doesn't want to be around guns, she just wants advance warning. The reason? Her mother always has a gun in her purse, and she'll take it out casually when digging for whatever she needs. So its not a hatred of guns, but rather a cautiousness because her mother is not necessarily safe with how she carries. I thought that was so funny.

The other females I have 'hung out' with have all expressed interest in learning how to shoot (in fact, I think I have 3 or 4 range dates that I haven't had time to fulfill) and are okay with me carrying. They worry more about the 'arsenal' I have in my room. One of them will call up and ask "what gun are you sleeping next to tonight?"

And yet another reason why I don't date!

Wait a sec! When did Spiff find women willing to be seen around him?

Conceal It

I vote for the conceal it, and don't volunteer it right-away crowd. If it comes up, then deal with it. However, I am still trying to figure out that part. I have not been on many dates, but I do have some concern of "being made". Just the other day, I ran into some friends while shopping, and one gave me a hug. If I was carrying, I might have been figured out.

In this instance, being found out may or may not have been a bad thing. (These particular friends know that I shoot, and that my job sometimes includes carrying [Security officer].) Other friends of mine may not positive on learning I am armed.

Telling someone you are out on a date with for the first time that you are heavy is no different than getting on a bus and anouncing it or telling the cab driver or the person next to you in the grocery store. There is no thinking going on there if that is happening. "Has the right to know" That is so "out there" I cant even think of a response to it...

Why would my safety be less important on a date, first or otherwise?