.22 full auto?

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Were there any .22 cal full autos made pre-'86? My problem is that once I scraped up the cash for an auto + NFA tax, I wouldn't be able to afford to feed it!
 
My understanding is that there are some conversion kits for some of the guns out there to make them .22 mcuh like you can convert your 1911 to .22
 
The ones that come quickly to mind is the Tippmann belt fed copy of the Browning 1919. This was a miniture gun. There was also the American 180 "Ripper". This was magazine fed from a drum that laid across the top of the gun sort of like a Lewis gun. I see the occasional .22 gatliing guns at the gun shows. Pricey little devils. I am sure there were others too.


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i think you could easily convert a 10/22 to one if you knew what you where doing. i saw a full auto 10/22 somewhere on the internet or something its rate of fire was outrageous lol something like 1600 rounds a min.

*edit i dont know what good it would be to have a full auto 10/22 though lol other than it would be super cheap to shoot.
 
Rather not go to jail. Anyone ever use the 2x10/22 kits? Do they work well? Does the crank bump the trigger back out with every shot or does it hold all the way down throughout?
 
ive seen those kits pretty cool looking if you have the money lol. i beleve the crank is made so as you crank it, it pulls (more like pushes) the trigger then releases it and as you crank it just alternates between the two guns

*edit sorry for the above post, i wasnt saying to make your own 10/22 full auto lol im just saying i think it can be done lol that would defently land you a nice spot in the big house
 
Off the top of my head, there's registered 10/22 trigger packs and the American 180 too.

Also, you can get conversion kits for machine guns that are normally shot in other calibers. I've got a Vector .22LR conversion kit for my Uzi and a Kuehl .22LR upper for my RDIAS host.
 
Auto Ordnance made some Thompson's in .22.

There are a few pre-'86 auto sears for the Squires Bingham .22 that looks like a miniature Russian PPSh.

There are also a few open-bolt German .22 rifles that were converted before 1986. These Voere rifles are probably the least expensive way to go. Big mags for them are evidently hard to find.

All this stuff is expensive now. Figure around $11,000 for the Thompsons, $7,000 for a SB auto sear and $4,000 and up for a Voere conversion.

Check out www.subguns.com, www.sturmgewehr.com and the ads in Small Arms Review.
 
American 180's the first thing that comes to mind... there's places that sell a .22 upper for an AR 15 - supposed to work fine on an AR model with a selector switch.
 
american 180's.. acutally there everywhere.. currently running about $9,500.
Norrell 10/22 trigger packs.. harder to find than the am180 and still running about 9-10K.
 
Got a friend who is putting together a 2x10/22 crank operated kit. It's all assembled... we're just waiting for some good weather to get it out to the range.

All the parts are solid milled aluminum. Finishing work isn't the greatest... some apparent milling marks and so forth, but not bad.

The crank operates two double-lobed cams. There are 2 pins that rest on the cams attached to a cross bar. When the right cam pushes the bar forward, the left side of the cross bar pulls the trigger on the left-hand rifle. The cross bar rides in a slotted pivot point, with a spring holding it away from the cams. A trigger-like lever pulls the cross bar back and into contact with the cam lobes.

Oh, the pistol grip is milled and tapped to accept standard 1911 grips :)

Hope that's clear enough... don't feel like drawing a picture.

Anyway, it's a little twitchy. You have to get things adjusted just right... but it looks to me as if it's going to work quite well. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
 
Dedicated .22rfs like Tippman's, AM180s, and Norrel 10/22s are excellent NFA toys. But if you're looking to buy a single do-all NFA MG consider that a M16 can accept any number of .22lr uppers/conversion units. Kuehl, Ceiner, Lakeside LM7 are just a few. These kits/uppers are reasonably priced, and do not necessitate a separate NFA transfer if you have the 16.

My own preference is to run .22lr in the FS Uzi. The Vector FA kit set me back about $250. It runs like a chainsaw with Minimags. And I don't have to swap buffers or other parts out - just drop in barrel and bolt and blast away. Moreover, there's no rimfire grit getting into the FCG/lower receiver. I like it so much I bought a 2nd registered receiver just to keep as a .22. My kids love it. 'Tis the season to shoot the crap out of Frosty the Snowman. In the fall we make mush of the Great Pumpkins that grow in the manure pile. ROF is well over 1000 RPM. Can't load magazines fast enough.

Sam
 
Full auto 22

If ya got the CASH and the TIME.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/MGT-B01010.html


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I understand someone made a trigger for a Mini-14 that fired once on the pull and once on the trigger return so it was technically not a full auto and totally legal. Maybe someone has done something like that for the 10/22?

I know, not exactly what you were looking for, but the best I could come up with off the top of my head of anything made now..
 
Full Auto .22/.223

:) Well, in my opinion, the best deal going is the Ruger AC556. You can get them for around $5500 -$6500 depending on wheather you want a short folder or a standard carbine. They are a full auto version of the Mini 14 so you can use the Ciener Mini 14 .22 caliber conversion kit. That is the setup I have and it works great.
With this setup you have the choice of shooting .22 when money is tight or really rocking out with .223 ammo when you get a little ahead. Ciener kits can be had for around $100 bucks used and 30 round mags are available.

Check out David Spiwak for the rifle and kits: http://www.davidspiwak.com/
I bought one of my AC's from him. Good guy with fair prices.

Also check out Franks Guns: http://www.atfmachinegun.com/atfmachinegun.htm
I bought one of my AC's from him. Also a great guy with fair prices.


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i dont know how he did it. i dont wanna know.

about 16 years ago i was shooting at a range out in the CA desert. mostly an open shooting range. It was early in the morning on a weekday. there was a guy with a marlin model 70. .22lr the one with the clip same type as one of mine. Any how he had just redid his to full auto. he only loaded 2 rounds in his clip to try it.

Yep it worked he pulled the trigger and both rounds were fired off like nothing. he latter put in 3 rounds and did the same thing it worked perfectly. after that he put it away. that was back then when you were able to buy the 15 round banana clips. in fact i still have 3 of them. used to buy them off the shelf at big 5. i cant imagine getting caught with a full auto .22. the risk of getting put away for a long long time is not worth it. but it can be done.
just have to ask why

i think if i remember correctly when you pull the trigger the fired bullet pushes the reciever back getting the trigger ready for the next round. there is a catch in there that makes you pull the trigger again to release the firing pin. i think you needed to file down the catch. however once you pull the trigger it will keep firing until the magazine is empty. thats all i remember. but all my guns are legit
 
Scrat: The above posts are about LEGAL full auto guns. I personally own a full auto MAC10 with a silencer.

Not some cheesy clamp on trigger activator, or someone’s illegal conversion; but a real select fire submachine gun.

Dan
 
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