Which machinegun should I get?

The Ruger is still supported by the factory

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Break an auto part on the AC556 and see if Ruger will ship you a replacement. Macs and UZIs can still be had in that neigborhood. You might still be able to find a registered AR sear in that range.

I would look at an UZI. Any way you go, ammo is going to kill you. You could buy a whole lot of suppressors and short barreled rifles/shotguns for the cost of one MG.

Why don't you call Ruger and ask if they would support an AC556 before you bet on it?

I like the S&W that is out there, but not sure about parts these days.

The Uzi might be the best way to go.

I think M2 carbines fall in that price range, one of those might be a lot of fun.

This one is sold but I have seen others,

http://www.impactguns.com/store/MGT-975093.html

I have been thinking about buying one but I am sitting on the fence in the hopes that the USSC might open the MG registry backup since weapons actually used by the military would be the most 2a protected type of weapons given their obvious roll in a militia.

No love for the FNC?

Full auto FNCs are generally around 7000 dollars. Sears are less.

"I haven't seen an Uzi for less than 7k"

Yep, and two, three years ago; I could have bought two Vector built UZI's for $7K (plus the tax stamps and FFL fees).
Boy, do I kick my ass over missing that deal!

For $7k, your best bet is an Uzi. Parts are widely available and cheap, and it's easy to change most parts by yourself. My second choice would be an M11/9 with a Lage upper. The Lage lowers the ROF a more controllable level (~600rpm) and provides a picatinny rail for optics mounting that the factory M11/9 upper doesn't give. At $3.5k for the M11, plus $600ish for the Lage, this will be a lot cheaper too.

If you just have one machine gun, I suggest that it's able to shoot pistol caliber ammo. There's many ranges that won't allow full-auto rifle calibers but will allow full-auto pistol calibers, usually due to what the backstop can handle. Pistol calibers are also usually cheaper to shoot.

Between the AC556 and the FNC, I'd suggest the AC556, just for the fact that FNC parts are hard to get and Ruger still supports the AC556. However the better solution in my opinion is to try to get an extra $3k and buy a full-auto AR15 registered receiver. There's so many more options with the AR15/M16 system over the AC556 or FNC I'm surprised the price differential isn't a lot higher.

I currently own an Uzi, have owned an FNC and sold it for an AR15 RDIAS so this isn't just theoretical for me.

I think sterlings go for around 7k. They use 9mm ammo.

Dan

Some Lightning links I have seen go for around 7k. Would need an sp-1 bolt carrier though.

This gun is partially an investment, it's not just for blasting ammo.

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In that case take the money and put it in a Roth IRA. For $7k you can max out your own contribution for the year and 3/4 of your wife's.

If you buy an automatic, chances are very good that it will be taken away from you some day, or made impossible to sell. In the meanwhile, you'll blast away a fortune in ammo. Some investment.

A sten gun works... That was/is my first entry level gun. Parts are cheap and available. Magazines are easy to find. I bought mine and a silencer made for a sten and its rather fun. I thinks stens are about 5 grand now. Whatever you get get one this year- next year they likely will be more. The 9mm is easy and cheap too. I can also shoot at most indoor ranges around here which would not be the case with the rifle cartridges. The Macs are nice with the newer upper/lowers they have and are really decent. Remember none of the subguns is a benchrest gun

maybe you can find a S&W 76, Madsen M50, or a Ingram Model 6 for under 7K

Break an auto part on the AC556 and see if Ruger will ship you a replacement.

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Ruger doesn't ship replacement parts usually anyway even for the Mini 14.

I guarantee you that Ruger will repair your legally owned AC556, I have a friend who has sent his in 2 or 3 times.

Now, the fact he's had to send it in 2 or 3 times well, that's another story.

I'd go with an UZI.

You won't find a good FNC for under $10k and parts are hard to find, so beware a bargain FNC.

The last nice example I saw sold for $11,0000

If the USSC recognized the 2A as an individual right and incorporates it into the 14th amendment (as the writer's of that amendment intended), it will have to apply strict scrutiny to laws abridging the 2a. So, it is conceivable, more so right now than just one month ago, that the strict scrutiny standard would find a small tax, registry, and some sort of standard training acceptable, but would have to find that the closing of that registry to be a ban by another name.

It would then fall to individual states to regulate "machine gun" ownership, unless of course the 2A is incorporated into the 14A, in which case the USSC would from then on set the standard as to what was allowable infringement of the right to bear arms. You know all the arguments so I won't rehash them here. I don't know, hope springs eternal, right?

HK SD5... a Suppressed Auto best of both worlds... no idea on cost though...

Afy:
Sturmgewehr lists one transferable MP5SD for sale at $18k (post 86 dealer samples are running $1800-$2500), Flemming sear and converted gun, so its not a "true" factory MP5, but either way, a little outside his price range.

Kharn

Why do you need a full-auto rifle/SMG? Just for fun? Or is it serious lust? If you're putting a lot of money into something you must be sure that's what you want. There's no point buying an expensive weapon for just the kick of it, especially if you mentioned this 7k is a long stretch for you (and probably something else important wouldn't be bought).

Any semi will do the trick. If I had 7 grands to spend on a rifle I'd buy either Mk 11 Mod 0 or M110 SASS. Full auto fire has very few applications in civilian world, since you're most probably not laying down suppresive fire whilst the rest of the team disengages; or clearing a room with letting them have it after you've tossed in a frag grenade.

I've shot plenty of FA, yeah it gives the adrenaline a run for the money, but that's just about it - emotions and feeling invincible. It's better to make every shot count than just spray&pray, IMHO.

HK SD5... a Suppressed Auto best of both worlds... no idea on cost though...

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about 15-17K

If i was going to spend 7K and wanted to spend all of it on one gun i'd get a UZI. They are around for $6500. Then you have the option of shooting 22rf, 9mm and 45acp. There are lots of surplus parts if anything breaks (not very likely.)

or

you could buy a M10/45 for about 3-3.2K and get on the lage waiting list for the max-10

M10 w/ a MAX-10 upper (pic from the lage site)


some vids of the max-10 prototypes
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2011775975577720993
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbBPRpQCs6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCknjIXFFvU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWYIlRLunEw

MAX-10/9 with a single feed magazine

http://www.max-11.com/videos/MAX109DBL1.AVI
http://www.max-11.com/videos/MAX109DBL1.AVI

MAX-10/9 with double feed magazines

http://www.max-11.com/videos/MAX109DBL1.AVI
http://www.max-11.com/videos/MAX109DBL1.AVI
http://www.max-11.com/videos/MAX109DBL1.AVI

or a you could get a M11/nine. I prefer the m10 though just because of the extra caliber options and the overall better (heavier) design and construction

If you went w/ either of the MAC's you would have enough money over to get a tube gun like a MKII sten, MK760 or a Stemple (if you wait for a deal)

I would suggest you take a look at Captain Mendenhall's slow fire Mac's before you regard them as junk. It amounts to putting a 351 Cleveland in a Pinto, but you can turn a Mac into a very nice, competition winning subgun.