Opening the door to China's guns

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If you could new purchuse new Chinese firearms, would you?

To be honest, I really would love to have a new Norinco 1911 for the collection. I am rather found of the 1911 platform and I think having guns made in other places is cool.
 
Considering they'd probably cost a good deal less, and be of failr decent quality... like everything else China makes... then I certainly would.

I'm sick of buying everythign from South America, If my money is going to feed a petty communist dictator, I'd at least like it to be a commitee of petty communist dictators who are honest about it.
 
Yes I would by a Chinese made gun but not a 1911 , I want one of their M1A's $1,200-$2,000+ for a Springfield is way to much !
 
Do you put gas in your car from countries full of people that hate us?

Why shouldn't I buy a Chinese gun?
 
They are buying up a lot of US, Japanese, and German machinery/tooling for industrial work like the screw products industry. If they would step up QC processes and go ISO, they could produce increasingly higher quality stuff since the tooling is there.

My money goes to the best product in my given price range. That's capitalism.
 
You know the American gun industry would just lobby congress until Chinese guns triple in price due to import taxes. Just like the American car industry did with Japanese cars.
 
There probably is some wisdom to not allowing countries that use slave labor to put your country's industry out of business.
 
There probably is some wisdom to not allowing countries that use slave labor to put your country's industry out of business.

But on the other hand allowing our own industries to benefit from slave labor. Tennis shoes anyone?
 
Slave labor is a cute media label, same type of stuff as "assault weapon". As countries evolve, they get rid of more menial types of labor for higher technology industries. How many people in the US still make tennis shoes, shirts, and cheap plastic toys? We move up technologically. Countries moving out of 3rd world status start at these industries and go up from there, just like the US and Britian, and countless 1st world nations did. It's the natural evolution of nation-sized progress.

If by slave labor, you mean child labor and labor shops with long hours and few benefits (ie sweatshops), then yes, they are good for both economies. Actual slave labor isn't as widespread as the media would have you believe as most every country doesn't have an active slave labor trade today.

Every developing nation has used child labor and "sweatshop" type setups, including the US and Europe. 3rd world countries right now utilizing this type of labor is actually in the better. Now that people in 1st world countries can go home after their grueling 40 hour week, they have nothing better to do than complain about child labor and saving whales. What is the alternative domestic economy for these people?

Its subsistence farming, collecting garbage, looting, prostitution, and the like. Families will often sell their kids or worse if there are no places that accept child labor. Many end up in sex parlors and similar indentured servitude. Look what happened to Nepalese kids when we stopped buying their rugs because of evil child labor.

They get paid a higher wage through these shops installed by 1st world countries and large corporations than they do from the local economy. No one points a gun at their head and says "you work here or die". They do so on their own because the alternatives to making money are both less monetarily beneficial and more dangerous. With large factory labor paying a quarter a day, at least they get a roof over their head. You don't get that with prostitution or growing just enough dirt clods to feed yourself.

Tell me, what is more degrading, dangerous, and bad for the economy...people willing to work for less-than-US living standards, but greatly higher than their domestic living standard, or serving as child prostitutes to local dirtbags and rich people from 1st world nations that visit sex parlors overseas?
 
Yeah, "slave labor" is a bit of a shock label. Either way, there are some industries that do operate in the US. Should we sacrifice domestic industry for lower prices? Maybe it is yes. For the gun industry, there is some security benefit to having domestic design and manufacturing know-how in this country. I am not sure how you could protect it and balance that with free market concerns.
 
@AntiqueCollector: I suggest you throw out at least half the things you own, They have "Made by commies" right on the tags.

OT: Id buy thier ammo, and guns, most of what ive seen, looks overbuilt, as in stronger than it needs to be, and fairly simple. good things in a fiearm.


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@AntiqueCollector: I suggest you throw out at least half the things you own, They have "Made by commies" right on the tags.
I have very little stuff made in China, and nearly all that I do was given to me, not purchased by myself.

My username gives away what I prefer to buy...I prefer antiques in almost all cases, better quality,whether it's furniture or a knife.
 
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