Ron Paul Mega-Thread (Mergeness)

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The video, while exciting, did not capture the full impact of being there. To see all of those people, my true allies, so enthusiastic and so dedicated was heartening. OMG!

When I went to Murphy's Taproom afterwards, it was amazing. When he showed up the place went so wild, I should have brought my hearing protection. I got a copy of his "A Republic if You Can Keep It" signed. When he signed it he said directly to me (over the roar of hundreds of screaming fans) "A republic, it's still a great idea."

My emotional battery was recharged and I am ready to fight.

Digital "Say yes to Dr. No" Warrior.
 
Ron Paul.....

So I don't get into politics, but I did catch Ron Paul on the Colbert report last night. I didn't even know who he was until before that. Perhaps it is just me, I really like people that are straight like him. I HATED Kerry because that mother was always contradicting himself and then when confronted with that crap he tried to worm he way out of it. I have declined to vote in the last two presidential elections because I had no feeling for Bush, Gore or Kerry. They all sucked. I would very much consider going through the trouble of getting my absentee ballot and/or reregistering to vote for Ron Paul!

I hope that his last attempt at president was only flawed because he ran in a third party. Third parties have almost 0 chance in this political system independent of who is running. If I recall, a party switch has happened only once in this country and that was around the time of the civil war.....the most turbulent time in America. Hopefully he will do better with the larger forum given by the Rep. party.

In any event, I think I may have to watch this guy.
 
My biggest problem with Paul is that he basically refuses to admit the War on Terror is real. Like many presidents, if he were elected, he would be shown the facts and possibly change his positions. However, how can any educated American still believe isolationism is even a possibility in this day and age?

I can''t disagree with you more on this issue. The "war on terror" is real because George W and the media makes it so. The fact is history has shown that you can't fight a war against an ideology and expect to win. Terrorism has been around for thousands of years and will probably always be with us.

As long as this country continues to press its beliefs and values into other parts of the world there will be terrorism. You can't stamp it out with bombs and troops because the root of the problem is in the heads of the enemy not behind the borders of some country.

I think Ron Paul knows this and I strongly believe he could find more diplomatic and realistic solutions the problems we face today. We need someone in the White House who actually "thinks" for a change. Someone who can solve problems without the words "war" and "bomb them" in their vocabulary.

just my .02¢
 
NWilliams said:
As long as this country continues to press its beliefs and values into other parts of the world there will be terrorism.

Wrong.

NWilliams continued:
You can't stamp it out with bombs and troops because the root of the problem is in the heads of the enemy not behind the borders of some country.

Right. There will always be people who wish to impose their will upon others. America will ALWAYS have enemies, even if we were to immediately remove all forces from everywhere in the world. The GWoT crowd will say that this is why we need to kill them before they get here. At best, that plan does absolutely nothing to reduce international opinions of the US as an overpowered bully. At worst, it pushes more locals to extreme viewpoints and makes it easier to recruit potential terrorists.

Paul also understands this, which is why he advocates a strong defense of the border. Thus helping to prevent the bad guys from getting in, all while NOT bombing entire cities or countries to hell in the hopes of killing off a few potential terrorists.

If a "War on Terrorism" means deploying troops to destroy people and organizations that might someday be able to harm America, then how long can it be before the military is deployed within our own borders?
Martial Law, anyone?
 
At best, that plan does absolutely nothing to reduce international opinions of the US as an overpowered bully

The first I hear a Presidential candidate talking about gauging the alleged feelings of whining people in other countries about the US, when determining our policies (trade, military, whatever) is the last he can EVER hope to get my vote.

Note that the new governments in Europe lately have been pro-US. Clearly, the whining of anti-US Eurocrats does not reflect the wills of the voters in Europe. It's political BS, designed to deflect attention from the politicians' own failures. Why would you think that European politicians are so different from our own?

Paul also understands this, which is why he advocates a strong defense of the border. Thus helping to prevent the bad guys from getting in,

Give me a time machine, and I'll vote for him to become President in 1878. Those policies would have worked great when banditos with Winchesters were the greatest threat.

And hell, I'm not fond of a lot of our current policies.

But that doesn't mean that we can wish away our problems, arm the borders, retreat behind them, withdraw from trade agreements, and everything will be happy-happy-joy-joy. It won't. But that's what Ron Paul's campaign platform is. And this IS the Ron Paul Mega Thread, right?

Oh, and spare me the "neo-con" BS. You can't win anything by calling someone a name that means nothing.
 
Have you folks seen This?

Who's going to bring this sort of nonsense under control? Guiliani? McCain? Romney?

We may never get another opportunity to wrest control of our nation back from the powers-that-be. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm sick of having to pick between the lesser of two evils. I'm sick of my choices getting worse every election year.
Apparently some of you don't get it by the ovations this guy gets from the audiences on Bill Mahr, Colbert, and all the rest: He's the only Republican who can win the general election, because Hillary's supposed "base" likes him even more than they like her! And all it takes to fix our country is the support of ....Republicans, who talk a big game about individual liberty, but are apparently unwilling to stand up for themselves. Who constantly screech about lower taxes, smaller government, and "personal responsibility", but don't want to walk the walk.

I'm workin' my butt off for this, and if this grand experiment in freedom dies, it's not going to be my fault.

/end rant
//got more signs to paint
 
An article from The Washington Times, June 14, 2007, "House OK's gun bill to limit buys by mentally ill" contained the following:

The only vocal opposition in the House came from Rep. Ron Paul, Texas Republican. Mr. Paul, who is seeking his party's 2008 presidential nomination, described the bill as "a flagrantly unconstitutional expansion of restriction on the exercise of the right to bear arms protected under the Second Amendment."

Is there any question about his steadfast support of the Constitution? In my view, all others pale by comparison.
 
ArmedBear, it's not that everything will be happy-happy anything, but that we can worry about our own problems instead of being involved in everyone else's.
 
The first I hear a Presidential candidate talking about gauging the alleged feelings of whining people in other countries about the US, when determining our policies (trade, military, whatever) is the last he can EVER hope to get my vote.
It has nothing to do with their whining. A man of integrity won't go around the beach kicking sand in people's faces, and he doesn't need anyone whining to remind him of the fact.

Your comment comes at an interesting time, though, as I read The Sorrows of Empire, the sequel to Blowback--neither of which Rudy McRomney have clearly read. In any case, your unquestioning assumption that going around bullying people is moral because we matter and they don't, is exactly what Chalmers Johnson characterizes as "militarism." When nations act that way, anyway. When an individual acts that way, we call him a sociopath.

--Len.
 
ArmedBear, it's not that everything will be happy-happy anything, but that we can worry about our own problems instead of being involved in everyone else's.
talk about I have a dream

Bush's 2nd term has him more worried about the people of Iraq and their "freedom" then our own......(hes made ours worse)
 
I just want to say...Go Ron!

He's still gaining support every day. I see it with my own eyes. Just about everyone that finds out about him ends up supporting him.
 
Colbert Report w/ Ron Paul

Video of Colbert Report w/Ron Paul is up.

nwilliams said:
I just saw the Colbert Report with RP!

He was great! I thought he did even better than he did on the Daily Show! he was relaxed, took everything in stride and seemed to have a good time. Great responses from the crowd and he even Stephen seemed to get a kick out of him.

Besides Ron Paul that was one funny episode of the Colbert Report, god help us Bears and Robots!

That's a DVR recording I'm going to keep.

Hopefully between now and election time either Colbert or Stewart (or both) will get him to come back as repeat guest.
 
Any one read this? from dailypaul.com Nothing earth shattering but a good quiky non the less

Be Ron Paul
Posted June 14th, 2007 by the stranger
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* Ron Paul

As support for Ron Paul spreads like a grass fire, a voice inside keeps asking, is it enough? Allow me to explain, if I can.

Watching the debate re-cap video, it occurred to me why we
get the essence of Paul every time we read or hear him. From issues as varied as the Doctrine of Preemption to the relatively insignificant gays in the military, Dr. Paul is able to flow like water in a mountain stream. Because, when you understand a subject front & back, top to bottom, inside & out… you possess a truth you can access from any angle, at any time.

One field of study Dr. Paul has mastered, obvious to all, is the US Constitution itself. He is more of a constitutional scholar; a constitutional-statesman than the sold-out politicians we have come to expect. It is this genius, in combination with the courage it takes to speak truth to power that endears him to us. He shouldn’t be so rare, but he is. Dr. Paul is a verifiable anomaly in American politics today.

American citizens used to have at least a basic understanding of the US Constitution; I guess that’s been replaced with sports statistics, buying junk, and the high ideals of The Sopranos. Putin (of all people) recently remarked, “If the face is crooked, don’t blame the mirror.”

Now I’ve said this before and I know people don’t like hearing it - George Bush is the most accurate, the most honest face this country has worn in a long time. The mask has come off and we don’t like what we see. Think about it and ask yourself; who is your neighbor, coworker, and others more like? Who are we all really more like; Dr. Paul? …or Bush?

How many have read the US Constitution? The Declaration of Independence? …the Monroe Doctrine? Do you have an opinion on gays in the military and if so, are you able to express it? How about the Doctrine of Preemption? This may well be the single most dangerous policy development in the history of mankind. Verifiably immoral, undeniably un-American and yet few Americans speak out against it; Ron Paul does.

To me, asking can Dr. Paul win is akin to asking can Gandhi win; as a human being, he already has. The issue at hand is this; if enough people actually do WAKE UP and carry Ron Paul to the Whitehouse; is it enough? There is no way in hell he can dismantle this growing malevolence alone.

To try and make a difference; you vote Ron Paul.

To keep something priceless alive;
you’ve got to be Ron Paul. We all do.

Original post http://dailypaul.com/node/340
 
Ron Paul has already won by bringing up issues about our foreign policy and scope of government that wouldn't otherwise get a hearing. As I've said before George Wallace never won an office higher than Gov of Alabama but he transformed the national debate and many of his positions were later adopted by the New Right and the conservative movement for Reagan. Before Wallace no one had the guts to criticize busing, affirmative action and other excesses of the Civil Rights movement. After Wallace every conservative had to try to be just as outspoken just to maintain credibility.
 
I heard Huckabee on Hannity's show actually supporting the FAIR Tax, which I thought was pretty interesting. If he wasn't quite so cavalier with taxpayers money, I might really like this guy. As governor, though, he came up with a lot of wierd health inititaves, and oversaw various smoking bans that took control of private businesses away from the business owners. Not my first pick, but it would be cool to see him run as VP with Paul. A man can dream....
 
FWIW.... Paul has twice voted " NO " on a bill in Congress that would prohibit gunmakers or dealers being sued if a firearm was misused by some idiot. You be the judge .
 
I heard Huckabee on Hannity's show actually supporting the FAIR Tax, which I thought was pretty interesting. If he wasn't quite so cavalier with taxpayers money, I might really like this guy. As governor, though, he came up with a lot of wierd health inititaves, and oversaw various smoking bans that took control of private businesses away from the business owners.

Funny you say that. I've been more impressed with him than Rudy, Mitt or McCain. What kind of first name is Mitt anyway? When the OB doc was playing Johnny Bench in the hospital during Romney's birth, did they name him after his glove? I mean come on......Mitt? I guess it's not a bad as Mort Kondracke. I mean how cruel can parents be? What was momma Kondrake thinking? As if Kondracke isn't bad enought they had to name him Mort to go with it?
 
geo57 said:
FWIW.... Paul has twice voted " NO " on a bill in Congress that would prohibit gunmakers or dealers being sued if a firearm was misused by some idiot. You be the judge .

Because it's simply outside of Federal authority to do so. You can't have principles only when it suits you, that's not having principles; that's playing the field when it's in your favor and changing your stance when it's not.

Here comes the judge....

Gun Rights vs. Centralization

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD



Ron Paul in the US House of Representatives, April 9, 2003

Mr. Speaker, I rise today as a firm believer in the Second amendment and an opponent of all federal gun laws. In fact, I have introduced legislation, the Second Amendment Restoration Act (HR 153), which repeals misguided federal gun control laws such as the Brady Bill and the assault weapons ban. I believe the Second amendment is one of the foundations of our constitutional liberties. However, Mr. Speaker, another foundation of those liberties is the oath all of us took to respect constitutional limits on federal power. While I understand and sympathize with the goals of the proponents of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (HR 1036), this bill exceeds those constitutional limitations, and so I must oppose it.

It is long past time for Congress to recognize that not every problem requires a federal solution. This country's founders understood the need to separate power between federal, state, and local governments to maximize individual liberty and make government most responsive to citizens. The reservation of most powers to the states strictly limited the role of the federal government in dealing with civil liability matters; it reserved jurisdiction over matters of civil tort, such as alleged gun-related negligence suits, to the state legislatures.

While I am against the federalization of tort reform, I must voice my complete disapproval of the very nature of these suits brought against gun manufacturers. Lawsuits for monetary damages from gun violence should be filed against the perpetrators of those crimes, not gun manufacturers! Holding manufacturers liable for harm they could neither foresee nor prevent is irresponsible and outlandish. The company that makes a properly functioning product in accordance with the law is acting lawfully, and thus should not be taken to court because of misuse by the purchaser (or in many cases, by a criminal who stole the weapon). Clearly these lawsuits are motivated not by a concern for justice, but by a search for deep pockets and a fanatical anti-gun political agenda.

However, Mr. Speaker, the most disturbing aspect of these lawsuits is the idea that guns, which are inanimate objects, are somehow responsible for crimes. HR 1036 shifts the focus away from criminals and their responsibility for their actions. It adds to the cult of irresponsibility that government unfortunately so often promotes. This further erodes the ethics of individual responsibility for one's own actions that must form the basis of a free and moral society. The root problem of violence is not the gun in the hand, but the gun in the heart: each person is accountable for the deeds that flow out of his or her own heart. One can resort to any means available to commit a crime, such as knives, fertilizer, pipes, or baseball bats. Should we start suing the manufacturers of these products as well because they are used in crimes? Of course not – the implications are preposterous.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, I would remind my fellow supporters of gun rights that using unconstitutional federal powers to restrict state gun lawsuits makes it more likely those same powers will be used to restrict our gun rights. Despite these lawsuits, the number one threat to gun ownership remains a federal government freed of its constitutional restraints. Expanding that government in any way, no matter how just the cause may seem, is not in the interests of gun owners or lovers of liberty.

In conclusion, while I share the concern over the lawsuits against gun manufacturers, which inspired HR 1036, this bill continues the disturbing trend toward federalization of tort law. Enhancing the power of the federal government is not in the long-term interests of defenders of the Second amendment and other constitutional liberties. Therefore, I must oppose this bill.

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.
 
I agree with Ron Paul about 99%.

I think his approach to foreign policy, illegal immigration, and abortion are right on, but to me these are not the most important issues.

Slavery and freedom are opposites. I think that government and special interests have colluded to rig the economy so that wealth is continuously shifted out of the pockets of the majority into the pockets of the privileged. The distribution of wealth in this country is not a normal distribution that would result from a free economy. It looks more like we are just living on one big government run plantation and most of us are working for our masters.

This loaning of new money into existence and charging interest on it is a monopoly granted to the banking industry by government (Federal Reserve Act). This is a huge scam that transfers wealth from working people to the banks and Wall street, not to mention the price increases this inflation of the money supply causes; a huge link in our barely visible chain of slavery. Taxes are the next big transfer of wealth.

Ron Paul wants to end the Federal Reserve scam and the welfare state scam, and for this alone we should be clamoring to get him elected instead of calling him a wuss for not wanting to fight the world. Frankly I think he is very brave because his desire to take away the special interest privileges and end this system of control and plunder will likely bring on attempts to assassinate him if he gains much more popularity.
 
budney - I was just giving myself a very little wiggle room, but I suspect that if he and I sat down and talked, I would find myself a little further to the right than he.
 
I must say, that's impressive.


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Gun Rights vs. Centralization

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD



Ron Paul in the US House of Representatives, April 9, 2003

Mr. Speaker, I rise today as a firm believer in the Second amendment and an opponent of all federal gun laws. In fact, I have introduced legislation, the Second Amendment Restoration Act (HR 153), which repeals misguided federal gun control laws such as the Brady Bill and the assault weapons ban. I believe the Second amendment is one of the foundations of our constitutional liberties. However, Mr. Speaker, another foundation of those liberties is the oath all of us took to respect constitutional limits on federal power. While I understand and sympathize with the goals of the proponents of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (HR 1036), this bill exceeds those constitutional limitations, and so I must oppose it.

It is long past time for Congress to recognize that not every problem requires a federal solution. This country's founders understood the need to separate power between federal, state, and local governments to maximize individual liberty and make government most responsive to citizens. The reservation of most powers to the states strictly limited the role of the federal government in dealing with civil liability matters; it reserved jurisdiction over matters of civil tort, such as alleged gun-related negligence suits, to the state legislatures.

While I am against the federalization of tort reform, I must voice my complete disapproval of the very nature of these suits brought against gun manufacturers. Lawsuits for monetary damages from gun violence should be filed against the perpetrators of those crimes, not gun manufacturers! Holding manufacturers liable for harm they could neither foresee nor prevent is irresponsible and outlandish. The company that makes a properly functioning product in accordance with the law is acting lawfully, and thus should not be taken to court because of misuse by the purchaser (or in many cases, by a criminal who stole the weapon). Clearly these lawsuits are motivated not by a concern for justice, but by a search for deep pockets and a fanatical anti-gun political agenda.

However, Mr. Speaker, the most disturbing aspect of these lawsuits is the idea that guns, which are inanimate objects, are somehow responsible for crimes. HR 1036 shifts the focus away from criminals and their responsibility for their actions. It adds to the cult of irresponsibility that government unfortunately so often promotes. This further erodes the ethics of individual responsibility for one's own actions that must form the basis of a free and moral society. The root problem of violence is not the gun in the hand, but the gun in the heart: each person is accountable for the deeds that flow out of his or her own heart. One can resort to any means available to commit a crime, such as knives, fertilizer, pipes, or baseball bats. Should we start suing the manufacturers of these products as well because they are used in crimes? Of course not – the implications are preposterous.

Finally, Mr. Speaker, I would remind my fellow supporters of gun rights that using unconstitutional federal powers to restrict state gun lawsuits makes it more likely those same powers will be used to restrict our gun rights. Despite these lawsuits, the number one threat to gun ownership remains a federal government freed of its constitutional restraints. Expanding that government in any way, no matter how just the cause may seem, is not in the interests of gun owners or lovers of liberty.

In conclusion, while I share the concern over the lawsuits against gun manufacturers, which inspired HR 1036, this bill continues the disturbing trend toward federalization of tort law. Enhancing the power of the federal government is not in the long-term interests of defenders of the Second amendment and other constitutional liberties. Therefore, I must oppose this bill.

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.
 
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