Moving to a new place that doesn't allow firearms

What are WV laws on concealed carry? I'd look for anywhere a state or local law might trump prohibiting firearms there.

Also, if you violate it, would they still hold you to pay the remainder on the lease?



Worst case - I'd violate. After living around low-income areas a couple years, no way I would go unarmed.

I'd find a way to keep it secure, and ideally, available when you're not there if you want to legally CCW. Messing around with something like that could lose you the roof over your head. If you don't feel safe there w/o a firearm, find somewhere else no matter what, it's not worth living there.

I sympathize as once when I was in the USN I made a cross-country move, and made a bad snap decision as to where to live (and it was in a state and place that prevented me from bringing my guns too). After getting broken into once or twice in a week, and catching a guy trying to come in through a window with a razor at 9pm one night, I broke the lease, took my lumps, and was out of there within a week. sure it cost me more than I could afford at the time but I've never once doubted that I made the right call.

Lease agreements are made to be broken. There's all sorts of stuff in many of them. Usually, it's "no harm, no foul," coupled with "don't ask, don't tell."

In your state, can the landlord enter unannounced?

I would keep the firearm in the house and or on my person. Folks telling you to move someplace where you "feel safe without a handgun" are nothing but victims in waiting looking at the world with an unrealistic eye. Too many fuds yap'n their jaws.

I find it hard to believe there isn't a different option on where to live, even in a small price range. I would NOT try to support a business or landlord with such policies.

If you MUST live there, I'd just quietly break the lease. If you're caught, provided you're not breaking the LAW, the worst that happens is you get evicted and lose your security deposit. Odds are you'll never get caught unless you must use it and then you won't care.

Move somewhere else. Are you going to trust your security to them?

What are the consequences of breaking the lease?

That's also a factor.

If all that happens is that you have to find a new place, then hey, you can figure "it's good while it lasts". If you go to jail or something, then don't live there.

Move. Without having additional information about the actual contract/lease you sign and the laws in WV regarding breaking such a lease (firearm-related), I think the advice to secretely have the gun on the premises is irresponsible.

I would keep it hidden. Just resign yourself to this and don't play with it if there is any chance of anyone seeing it.

And keep looking for a better place to live.

how is this stupidity possible. When you make an agreement to live somewhere, doesn't that then become de facto "your property"? giving you rights to say who is allowed there and such? that is like making an agreement that you will take your shoes of whenever you go inside, dumb...

I feel for you, man. I hope your situation improves. I would keep my gun there. Get a small lock box to secure it. Even if the landlord can enter the condo unannounced, he/she has no right to search/break seals on private property. People do the same thing with pets all the time.


ETA: to clarify, the fact that the landlord can make such demands is stupid, not the original poster.

I chose "Other". You can find another place...This is America baby!

If you're married and have two kids AND you're a college student...that's a VERY challenging situation. Take out a loan.

1. Sign the lease with the caveat of UP (Under Protest)
2. Hire a lawyer through any of several 2nd amendment foundations
3. Sue the bastards for curtailing your constitutional rights under the 2nd.
4. Keep your gun in your home and carry it on your person at all times assuming you have a CCW.

In your case, I would say that concealment, a safe, and not saying a word is your best option until another place comes available to you.

2. Hire a lawyer through any of several 2nd amendment foundations

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Perhaps you missed the part where he said "low-income" and "can't afford to move anywhere else". Lawyers don't come cheap and you'll have a hell of a time finding who to work on contingency or pro bono for something like this.

Get the phonebook and look under "legal aid" or call the courthouse and ask for legal aid. Find out if you can sell your constitutional rights. I don't think you can. Or call an attorney if you perhaps know one. Better yet, if anyone is on this forum knows for sure where you can get free legal advice he/she will chime in.
Do you have a friend who can keep it for you for a while this it blows over? Do you have a car in which to hide it?

Buy a small safe and bolt to floor or wall studs in an inconspicuous place and disguise it if possible. If you have a CCW permit you should have your pistol on you at all times if possible anyway. When you have to go to a gun-free massacre zone like your college campus or post office, lock it up in your safe. Don't let anyone know you own a gun. If you ever need it you will have it and can deal with the consequences later. Better to be kicked out of your townhouse after defending yourself than buried 6' under after not being able to defend yourself.

I'd say, that the lease is probably an "I didn't see it thus it never happened" sort of deal.

Keep it hidden away.

I wouldn't get too worried about this........Silence and discretion often work wonders. I'd be more concerened about having a 27 pound dog when the Apartment limits you to a 25 pound one.......Essex

"Cogo." Latin for "under duress," I'm told. Feds don't seem to catch it when I sign a certain annual form with that after my signature. Few other people would, I think.

Pops

And people never have pets when the lease says No Pets.

I'd keep it and get a safe it's none of the landlords business what's in the safe.

Al

Get an ACLU lawyer pro-bono to sue those Anti-2nd ammendment bigots!