My dumb brother.

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After a range trip with my brother on Friday we got into a rater irritating argument. He likes guns, was in the army, and intends to get a new 1911 when he gets the money. However he has a very annoying view on one aspect of gun ownership. He thinks that there is absolutly no reason for anyone to keep their gun at there house. He thinks that they should be required to store there guns at the range (like in Germany). When I bought up the point of self defense he argued that there is an extreamly small chance of anyone ever needing one for self defense. He then said that unless you keep your gun loaded under your pillow that you won't be able to get to it and use it in time. After that I just went down to my room for the rest of the night trying to make sense of this sudden spasm of retardedness. If these aren't the most retarded views I don't know what is.
 
It sounds like military training has took hold really well where all firearms are at the armoury and secured from soldiers unless they are issued through orders.
 
Extremely small chance, but what if that chance arises and its HIS turn?
Say he isn't home but his significant other and his child is there. Will he want them to be victims?
 
Stored at the range like in Germany ?? I lived in Weisbaden for 8 years , ALL my toys were with me at home , first in my rental apartment off base and later in military housing . Oh please tell me he isn't an officer :uhoh:
 
Did you ask him if he's actually READ that constitution he swore to defend? I seem to recall a small mention of keeping arms in there somewhere.
 
Did you ask him if he's actually READ that constitution he swore to defend? I seem to recall a small mention of keeping arms in there somewhere.
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Yeah... thats not the Army or organization I was in. :scrutiny: Though I am willing to bet he was not Infantry or in an Infantry Brigaid. Sounds like he has a personal problem but if he's happy with it then I guess thats in the Constitution too.
 
Me thinks you should spend less time worrying about what your brother thinks. He's entitled to his opinions, no matter how dumb they may be.
 
Hmmmm, what if someone doesn't even have a range around? Lots of folks don't. Does he feel that they should be ineligible to own?? Not to mention lots of other reasons that are obvious to a thinking person.
I think that I may have to agree with your assessment of your brother.
 
If he was enlisted and lived in barracks he would have been required to check in any personal weapons in the unit's armory and request permission to get them out.

At least, that is the way it was when I was in and as such did not bring any of my guns to my unit. I left them with my parents. I don't like having that much personal property under the control of the military. Besides that, all the hunting I did I went home on leave for.
 
Gunpacker: But.. what would a person do with a gun other than shoot it at a range????? :p We all know hunting and self defense are both things of the past!
 
This is an easy one to fix.

I did this to my dad when he thought security systems were the catch all of crime. It worked wonders.

Simply sneak into his house when he's home and surprise him. Then give him the if "i were a criminal" speal. It'll at least make him think if anything.

Worked on my family. My dad installed an alarm system and found me on his sofa the next morning drinking pop from his fridge with the system still armed.

He moved his .357 from the safe to his bedside drawer.
 
Now that we have police, national guard and military, it's perfectly safe here...:what:

Seriously, though, living on base for a few years has a way of 'institutionalizing' you. That is if you're a young single 'barracks rat'. Everyone around you is military, and all the weapons are secured in the armory. It's not surprising what he says. Well, not *that* surprising...

That said, I have my beretta in the nightstand next to me and a 357 within 10 feet...
 
He then said that unless you keep your gun loaded under your pillow that you won't be able to get to it and use it in time.
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And what is so wrong with keeping it there? Personally I prefer on the nightstand under a magazine or two so it is not readily visible but still very easily reached.

And for what it is worth I store my gun at my range, it just so happens my range is about 75 feet from my front door and the armory is in my bedroom :)
 
When I bought up the point of self defense he argued that there is an extreamly small chance of anyone ever needing one for self defense. He then said that unless you keep your gun loaded under your pillow that you won't be able to get to it and use it in time.
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Here are a few books which might help bring him back to reality.

http://www.amazon.com/Thank-God-Had-Gun-Self-Defense/dp/0965678458/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-6362103-6355632?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184640424&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Concealed-Handgun-Manual-Choose-Defense/dp/0965678415/ref=pd_bbs_2/105-6362103-6355632?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184640424&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Defense-Intended-Defended-Themselves/dp/1888952970/ref=pd_sim_b_1_img/105-6362103-6355632?ie=UTF8&qid=1184640424&sr=8-4

These books are filled with true accounts of ordinary people who successfully defended themselves with firearms. You'll notice, none of these people said they regretted having a gun when they needed it.
 
Don't feel bad; I have a brother who's an LEO and thinks that nobody should be allowed to own guns at all.

Not only that, he wrote me a hot check for a wedding present.

With ethics like that, no wonder he wants everyone unarmed...except him.
 
Its people like him who believe that the police will have a gun pointed in the persons face who is mugging you right after you get off the phone with them.
 
Well it is his property and he can store it however he likes, provided that a market exists to serve his needs and desires. It seems that no such market exists in most of the USA so he will just have to keep it at home if he gets one. So it doesn't matter whether you two see eye to eye on this issue; just refuse to rent him safe space. :evil:
 
Get him a gift membership to the NRA, and sign him up for American Rifleman magazine. They have "The Armed Citizen" at the front of every issue just full of amazing stories of people using guns in self defense. I read a few to my wife every month and she stopped questioning my having a gun on the night stand.
 
That's almost as stupid as my sisters comment to me on day at the local gun shop I was looking at buying a gun safe for my growing collection and she turns to me and says "why are you wasting your money on something so stupid its not like anyone is going to break into your house just to get your guns" I was dumbfounded
 
While he's at it, maybe hs should store his fire extinguisher at the fire station since there's such an extremely small chance that he'll ever need it to put out a fire.
 
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