San Francisco is going berserk again...

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http://cbs5.com/politics/local_story_136215501.html

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom hailed new proposed city gun legislation, and he did it Wednesday from the neighborhood most plagued by gun violence.

“Enough is enough,” said Newsom in the city’s Bayview district. “We need common sense gun control.”

The announcement came nearly one year after a judge struck down a law banning handgun possession in the city.

One part of the measure outlaws the possession or sale of guns on any city-owned property, expanding the current ban from buildings like City Hall and schools to include outdoor locations like city parks.

Mayor Newsom said he also hopes to extend the ban to public housing complexes, but federal laws may make that complicated.

The proposed legislation would also require people who commit crimes with guns to sign up with the police department, then probation officers could keep better tabs on them.

Another aspect would require all gun owners to store their guns disabled with a trigger lock or placed in a locked-box. Authorities said lock boxes would help to keep legal guns from being stolen and then later used illegally.

"It is fair to say that a majority of gun crime is committed with illegal guns," District Attorney Kamala Harris said. “It’s a reality that a lot of weapons and guns that we find in connection with a homicide are stolen."

The idea, she contends, is to remind legal gun owners how to behave.

"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," Harris said.

San Francisco's only gun shop is also a target of the proposed legislation, which would require it and any future gun shops in the city to send police officials a gun sales list every six months.

Even though criminals already don't follow the law, city leaders believe any gun crackdown makes the city safer.

“It’s just time and it’s the right thing to do,” said Harris, citing existing laws in Alameda and Los Angeles counties that are similar to the proposed ones for San Francisco.
 
"It is fair to say that a majority of gun crime is committed with illegal guns," District Attorney Kamala Harris said. “It’s a reality that a lot of weapons and guns that we find in connection with a homicide are stolen."

It's about time someone admitted that.
 
I don't even know where to begin. All of that violates existing laws in one way or another.

And if I hear "common sense gun control" one more time I'm going to VOMIT. There is no such thing.
 
Mayor Newsom said he also hopes to extend the ban to public housing complexes, but federal laws may make that complicated.

I may actually like this idea, mostly because I believe that citizens should have guns, and I don't consider people living off the gubment as true contributing citizens. Kind of a stretch, but in the long run I don't support any gun control, so screw em anyways!
Just got me to thinking. If someone wants the rest of us to pay their way in life, maybe they should be substandard citizens? No vote, no guns, etc...???
 
Oh really!

So now owning a firearm is submission to random compliance searches of your home?

"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," Harris said

Let's see if SF residents pick up on THAT.
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As I said elsewhere, I'd like to see them try.

The resulting court case should put them in their place real quick.
 
"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," Harris said.

Oh my freakin' gawd! That is the most un-constitutional, pro-police-state comment I have EVER read on this internet, since Al Gore invented it! The fact that some empty headed DA actually seems proud of saying it is simply un freakin' believable!
 
"Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," Harris said.

Well, I'd like to see them try. First time they do it without a warrant, they will get sued. And I can't see a judge issuing a warrant just so they can check up on a gun owner. The level of stupidity necessary to even make this statement publically is incredible.
 
Didn't I read somewhere that criminals need not "register" their guns since that would be self incriminating and as such is "unConstitutional"? So the new SF law only applies to legal owners who are registered (let's face it, they're registering gun owners while they call it registration of the firearm itself) who might be visited by local gendarmes to see if they are compliant with safe storage laws, yet anyone NOT registered, such as criminal ilk are, "good to go" and safe from inspection.

Do not think for a minute, after watching the debacle in New Orleans in 2005, where firearms were confiscated (wasn't the Cal HP involved in one of those on film?) that just because it's not a legal order (by way of the 4th Amendment) it will not be carried out. Actually, I guess it'd have to be carried out at least once and the affected "Registered Untermenschen" would need to file suit against the city to see if they could get a ruling from a District Court or Appellate Court to rule said law as being, "UnConstitutional" on 4th amendment grounds. Knowing the way the 9th Court works tho', I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting a favorable ruling.

Perhaps some "registered person" with much moola who MIGHT be so affected could seek an injunction to stop such shennanigans prior to and ask for a court interpretation to see if the new law does in fact pass muster.

Curiouser and curiouser is the Golden Gate City.
 
Yes, but...

Do not think for a minute, after watching the debacle in New Orleans in 2005, where firearms were confiscated (wasn't the Cal HP involved in one of those on film?) that just because it's not a legal order (by way of the 4th Amendment) it will not be carried out.

You're right, New Orleans did carry it out. Yes, but then again New Orleans was sued, lost in court, and had contempt proceedings against them. The lawsuits over their conduct during the flood continue to this day and they are paying millions after millions. As for the 9th Federal Circuit, it is actually the best place to try cases that have to do with the search and seizure and self incrimination parts of the Constitution.
 
San Francisco's only gun shop is also a target of the proposed legislation, which would require it and any future gun shops in the city to send police officials a gun sales list every six months.
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I am going to go over there and meet this person and buy something from them. Not that my
purchase will keep it in business. Just would like them to come to Sacramento for a talk ;>)

http://www.highbridgearms.com/english.htm
 
Well, I'd like to see them try. First time they do it without a warrant, they will get sued. And I can't see a judge issuing a warrant just so they can check up on a gun owner. The level of stupidity necessary to even make this statement publically is incredible.
And, I imagine, is only exceeded by the stupidity of your average San Francisco citizen. Taking into account that half of them are even stupider than average, imagining that most San Fran folk would not only let the police in but guide them to their guns, locked up or not, isn't that far a stretch.
 
"The book burnings begin next week in Berkely"

<Spiccoli stoner speech mode on>

But only all books by conservative authors or books about guns, or smaller government, or anything about war or the military that doesn't show them all to be the heartless baby killers we know they all are.

After all free speech is what we believe in, but those guys are ... well, like all wrong and evil so free speech stuff doesn't apply to them anyway, Okay.

Besides their books are like published by Halliburton anyway, probably, huh?

<Spiccoli stoner speech mode and brain off>
 
Just because you legally possess a reproductive organ in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way that you conduct your affairs," Harris said

Change gun yo any controversial item and see how it reads...Maybe in some part of the bible belt certain acts between consenting adults may need to be "checked"
 
To the Democrats and a few RINO Republicans, a "common sense gun control law" means that they can at will, send in their Gestapo/Spetznas Military & Police to confiscate all firearms from all worker peasants in America.

L.W.
 
I know that it is time to recall your mayor and all the anti-gun perps in your citites,state legislatures and in congress. I know that it takes money to do it and the people who support these anti-gun legislature will go into a gun store and ask for to buy a gun. but,what will and should happen in California,is to this,when a well to do person[actor or bodyguard to a actor comes in to buy a gun for protection,tell that well to do person that you cannot sell him one because they are on a terriost listing and are not suppose to have a weapon of any sort. Even well to do taxpayer rip offs in both house and senate in D.C. Rich Ziemies,Omaha,Ne. A well to do non-gun control state except Omaha:cool::cool::cool:
 
San Francisco's only gun shop is also a target of the proposed legislation, which would require it and any future gun shops in the city to send police officials a gun sales list every six months.

It makes me sick that SF City Govt. wants a list of sales.

FYI, anyone want to give that SF Gun Store business: go to http://www.highbridgearms.com
It used to be owned and operated by Bob Chow, US Olympic shooter and one of the early M1911 custom pistolsmiths.
 
The idea, she contends, is to remind legal gun owners how to behave.

YES! screw the criminals who would steal them AND use them for whatever other violent act they wish...

i feel the same way about these laws as i do about punishment for leaving your keys in your car and your car gets stolen. 'it makes more work for the police and costs the city money' is the excuse i hear for those.

no it doesn't cost the city money. it costs us money. we the people's money. i should be able to leave my car running in the parking lot if i want to, unlocked windows open. if someone steals it its not my fault, its theirs, remember, They DID steal it...

its like punishing a murder or assault victim from gang violence by saying they should have moved out of the way of the bullet.

disgusting... and where's that barf icon.
 
Here's the San Fran Freako 'tude on guns, perfectly encapsulated in the mind of a 6 year old:

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