September Appleseed shoots! 7 of them!

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Hey All,

September is a busy month for the Appleseed Program. We have 7 Appleseed shoots throughout the country in the month of September. There MUST be one near you, and on a date that you can make it. Below is a link that you can get information about the Appleseed program, get shoot schedule, and register for events. http://www.appleseedinfo.org

Here are the list of September shoots coming to you, enjoy:

Ramseur, North Carolina—September 1 & 2 http://www.appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=303.0

Stuart, VA—September 8 & 9 http://www.appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=304.0

Hinesville, GA—September 15 & 16 http://www.appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=124.0

Kemmerer, WY—September 22 & 23 http://www.appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=14.0

Puryear, TN—September 22 & 23 http://www.appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=175.0

Bozeman, MT—September 29 & 30 http://www.appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=300.0

Langhorne, (Holland) PA—September 29 & 30 http://www.appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=305.0

These Appleseed shoots are a good time, great place to get some inexpensive, quality rifle instruction. It is FREE to Kids under 21 and Military.

You will have a good time and get shooting skills that will enable you to be effective out to 500+ yards.

Feel free to PM me if you have Questions about the program.
 
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Hey, that shoots are on the weekends, you can make it. Remember under 21 shoot FREE, that might help a bit?

Take a look at the remainder of 2007's Appleseed tour, perhaps you will be close to another one.....they are that good ;)

http://www.appleseedinfo.org
 
funfaler -

Are there goign to be any more Central Florida shoots? After the last one, there was talk of scheduliung another one for some time before the end of the year.
 
We are working on it. However, if you have a range/farm in mind let me know. Always looking for a place to have an Appleseed;)
 
OK, how about a reference to an earlier review of my 1st Appleseed experience

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Just got back from the Illinois Appleseed… (long with pics)

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=280890&highlight=appleseed

…and I didn’t shoot Rifleman but I did learn a lot.

I won’t spend a lot of time going over the Appleseed concept http://rwva.blogspot.com/ (that’s what the Search function is for) but I will say it does align well with what I think of rifle shooting. I’ve really come to be fond of the concept of controlling a 500 yard radius with iron sights And aimed, rapid fire, but where I shoot (northern Illinois) I’m pretty much limited to shooting off a bench and one-cartridge-in-the-magazine at a time. Unfortunately, this trend tends to breed a whole generation of “shooters” that get their AK, slap a bipod and scope on it and proceed to shoot 6” groups off a bench. While I know high power competition is a great teacher, I’ve never found the time to get in that sport. So, the Appleseed course seemed like it was tailor-made to what I am looking for.

Here’s a rundown of what we did. The school was held at Darnall’s Range outside of Bloomington, IL. http://www.darnalls.com/ The folks there were very accommodating, allowed camping and served some very hearty lunches. Weather was not too bad…high 70’s/low 80’s, rain showers on and off, hot sun when the clouds broke, a bit humid. The course went like this:

Saturday – Start with registration and range safety/rifle grounding brief from the instructors. April 19, 1775 history lesson from Fred (one of many…the man CAN tell a story). Down to the range and learn proper prone position and 6-steps to firing. Fire several 1-inch sighter targets and ball n’ dummy to check zero and technique. Fire “Redcoat” target to check prone. Learn proper sitting and standing positions with firing in between. Fire first Quick n Dirty AQT (QDAQT). Lunch. Rest of afternoon alternating qual AQT and QDAQT to reinforce techniques in all positions. End day with Redcoat and QDAQT. Another history lesson. Total round count ~ 120

Sunday – Start with history lesson. Down to range and fire a QDAQT. Drill technique. Add 3-man team drills focusing on high-stress rapid fire – these were great…run 50 yards to line, sling up, drop to prone, load and fire 10 rounds all into single target, all in 60 seconds. Object was most number of hits to 1” star. My team won…reward was first in line to lunch. More ball ‘n dummy and qual AQT then QDAQT. Finally we shot a “volley fire” Redcoat (shoot all in unison on command for AQT score…tougher than it sounds). End with history lesson. Total round count ~ 170

AQT course of fire:
All targets from 25 m range -- 100, 200, 300, 400 m simulated targets as you work your way down
100: standing -- 10 rounds
200: sitting -- 2 round/3 round with a mag change on target 1, 5 rounds on target 2
300: prone -- rapid fire 2 rounds, mag change, 1 round on target 1, 3 rounds on target 2, 4 rounds on target 3
400: slow fire prone -- 2 rounds on target 1, mag change, 2 rounds on target 2, 3 rounds on target 3, 3 rounds on target 4

Here’s what I learned:
Self Awareness – I thought I was an OK rifle shot (I’m an NRA Rifle Instructor) but I really didn’t know how I’d do from the positions with a high rate of aimed fire. I’m definitely not the best, and thankfully not the worst.
Learning New Stuff is Hard – I started out great during the sighters but, by the end of day 1, I was very discouraged. I barely shot Marksman (>125 points) on the first QDAQT and thought all was lost. Day 2, however, showed steady improvement in scores. I never shot Rifleman (210 points) but I improved by over 50%.
Little Things Matter – I finally feel comfortable using slings. NPOA is outrageously important. “Dragging wood” (trigger finger laying on stock during squeeze) will throw shots. Adjusting elevation and windage with muscles doesn’t work for long. Cadence works (firing every 2-3 seconds instead of waiting for the perfect shot “magically” seems to actually improve your scores – my best shooting was during the 60 second-running-3-man-team drills).
Equipment is Important – I’m not advocating getting all mall ninja’d up. We had a few of those guys show up…they didn’t shoot so good. Good sights, good trigger, good mags, decent ammo, knee pads, a shooting coat, a decent shooting mat will go a long way to making your day easier and let you focus on shooting. This doesn’t mean you need a $2500 rifle. It does mean that taking as many “excuses” out will let you focus on fundamentals.
Don’t Drink Lots of Coffee Before Shooting – my Venti Starbucks Dark Roast right before the first AQT of Day 2 made my legs shake so bad I couldn’t finish the standing stage.
Shooters Are Nice People – we had all kinds. White collar, blue collar. Rich, not so rich. Urban, rural. Several ethnicities. Mostly M1As, but also some Garands, an FAL, a CETME, several ARs, a 03A3, a Mauser, an AK, a bunch of .22’s. By the end of the 2 days there was a lot of camaraderie, story swapping, and genuine well-intentioned, mutual coaching. I traded business cards with several guys.

A really good program. I’ll go again. They struck a nice balance in teaching and practical exercises as well as firm instruction without being too “drill sergeant”. Here’s a few pics…I was shooting and learning so much, I didn’t have time to take more.

My first sighters looked good compared to the guy next to me…I started getting cocky at this point. Stupid.

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Here’s one of the instructors showing us prone

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Compared to me…hmmm, he looked better.

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Looking up the firing line

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Ball n’ dummy coaching

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Standing (sitting was too painful so I didn’t have time to get the camera out)

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First Redcoat target from day 1 compared to last one on Day 2

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First QDAQT (sucky)

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Midway through 2nd day

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Last qual and Volley Redcoat

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Great report Kris!

My experience this last weekend very much matches Kris's.

Proper use of the sling and learning how to get into "natural point of aim" while in the various shooting positions were the two biggest things I took away from the class.

On day two everything fell into place on one of the stages and I shot a tiny group while in the prone position. There was no tension in my body from being out of position, my breathing and shooting cadence were matched and it was a little taste of rifleman nirvana.

I am going to practice getting into NPOA and dry firing at home so I can reproduce with regularity shooting small groups without using a bench at the range.

Looking forward to the next class that I can attend.
 
How about one in Texas. I'm sure it has to be a place where to do it here,lol it just won't fit in my backyard. :D
 
Go Ron,

Beat me to it, Great! Thanks.

If neither of those are near enough to you. We will bring one to your neighborhood.

PM me for information, you could be the first on your block to host an Appleseed, it is fun and rewarding.
 
Thanks but actually the one in Davilla is only like an hour away, Texarkana, mmmm I don't think I want to drive 5 hours, lol And if it's like everyone says count me in, specially military free yep sounds good, lol lol lol Have fun guys
 
Well folks,

If none of these shoots are close to you, check out the schedule http://www.appleseedinfo.org There are still plenty of Appleseed shoots left in 2007.

Still no Appleseed Shoots near you? PM me with your location and I will send you some information on hosting an Appleseed shoot. You can be the first on your block to host one and win the thanks and admiration of everyone.
 
No Membership needed! Kids under 21 and Military shoot FREE.

The $70 covers two full days of quality rifle instruction, with a program that has a proven track record of improving folk's rifle marksmanship. It includes the targets, T-shirt, and all your brass that you can pick up.

These shoots do most of their shooting at 25 meters, with reduced size targets to simulate ranges of 100-500 yards. Using this range at first allows for a more concentrated focus on the shooter's mechanical skills, and provides more time for instruction and shooting, rather than walking the range to check targets. Day two, with range and class permitting, we like to spend some time at actual ranges, at least out to 300 yards, with 400 or 500 being a bonus.

You can expect to go through about 400 rounds of ammo during the course. With the reduced range instruction, many folks have started using 22LR semi-autos for this portion of the course, and then a full caliber for the long range portion. We have seen some very good success with this arrangement, as well.

When the course is over, you will have received instruction in all aspects of shooting out to 500 yards. Since we only have you for 2 days, we can not guarantee that you will be able to do so at that point, but you will have been taught the skills to be able to improve to that point, on your own. You will improve your rifle shooting, and you will improve your knowledge of long range shooting.

If you would like a more indepth course, look into our "Boot Camps". There is one in Kemmerer, during the week prior to the Appleseed shoot (Sept 16-23). These are a week long, very detailed rifleman's course, complete with lots of full range shooting, a very low instructor/student ratio and about 1500 rounds used. If you would like more information on the Boot Camps, send me a PM.

For the Appleseed shoots, I highly recommend the following, to make YOUR shoot more enjoyable and a better learning experience.
-Get Fred's Guide to Becoming a Rifleman, from Fred's M14 Stocks http://www.fredsm14stocks.com/catalog/acc.asp Get the AQT targets as well, that is the kind of targets that you will be shooting at the Appleseed (the targets are provided by the course). The Guide will give you much to study and practice at home, before the shoot.
-Practice getting into the sitting and prone positions, with your rifle and then DRY fire several rounds 3-4 times a week, until the shoot.
-Have a shooting sling for your rifle, the USGI web sling is great, easy and cheap
-have a shooting mat/pad, you will spend a good bit of time in the prone position
-have elbow pads, the kind that DOES NOT have the hard outer shell (they slip), you will spend a good bit of time on your elbows.
-Show up to the shoot with an OPEN MIND AND A WILLING TO LEARN ATTITUDE ( this is #1!)

If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here, PM or visit the web site (you want to do this anyways) http://www.appleseedinfo.org

Enjoy the shoot, you will learn.
 
NEED FLORIDA APPLESEED...again.

I went to the January Appleseed in Florida and had a great time. They were an awesome group of people and they're all volunteers, taking time off to travel around the country and teach people how to better marksmen. I will definately atttend another Appleseed if it comes to Florida again.

Lesson learned: bring the best rifle you have...and a back-up. I brought my Armory USA AK-47, had great sights on it and while the instructors admitted it was a more-accurate-than-usual AK...it still wasn't good enough to earn a Rifleman patch. Day two, left the AK in the trunk and used my old trusty Ruger 10/22 and earned my rifleman patch that day. Bring what you shoot best.
 
Man, it looks like a good month for the Appleseed shoots.

Lots of interest around the web.

If you have not signed up, you should find one and go. These look to be some fun shoots, with lots of good folks going.
 
I've missed this in my area 2 years in a row now. I really want to take my 10 year old nephew and let him use my AR for the weekend. I think he'd really like that. Sure, I'd learn a lot, but it's more important to me that he get exposed to this culture.

He is quite fortunate and gets to hunt frequently with his dad and us (myself and my father) when coyote season rolls around about Thanksgiving. But that's hunting more than shooting. Dedicated range time to have him blast off a few hundred rounds would probably make his decade...haha, he's 10, get it.;)
 
Gonna git to one yet in 2007?

Where are you located, I will send a personal invite for the next one, hate to have you miss it :neener:
 
I know the AQT targets are set for 25 meters. The local rifle range is set for 50 and 100 yards. How well do the targets work at those ranges? I am interested in getting some for my own personal practice.
 
The best range (really the only range) to run the AQT targets and do the instruction is 25 meters.

What we usually do in the case that you describe, either move the firing line up, or bring the target stands back, to give us 25 meters.

If neither of those are an option. It is possible to run the AQTs at 100 yards, not sure we have had to do it that way.

Send me a PM with your contact information (email/phone) and your range contact information. I can send you some hosting information and some range information. We will see if we can make it work and get one in your backyard ;)

As to Ohio....Yep we need a couple in the Buckeye state. We have a great shooter coming from Northern Ohio to the Instructor course in Kentucky in Sept/Oct of this year. He belongs to a very nice range near Toledo and hopes to have a couple of Appleseeds up there in 2008.
 
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