What's wrong with Glocks?

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I am not twenty-one yet and doing a lot of research about the handgun I want. I have shot quite a few (1911, Glock, XD, Sig, multiple wheelguns, BHP and some I'm forgetting). Anyway there is a ton of info on Glocks and everytime I ask for information on something other than a glock (stating I'm not considering one in the post) there are always a couple people who say GET A GLOCK! It's probably just a few people ruining it for the rest, but that gets old after a while...

-Russ
 
I personally just can't stand the way they feel in my hand, the grip angle stinks and the lack of a beavertail bothers me to no end. The horribly mushy triggers are nothing to brag about either.

Good pistols for sure.......I just could never buy one personally.
 
Just picked up a G21SF. Grip doesn't feels as good as my SW1911. Trigger isn't as nice. Doesn't look as sharp. But, in all fairness it shoots just as good and maybe a bit faster back on target. It's a keeper. I really wanted the M&P45 to be a winner, but too many complaints for me feel comfortable buying one. Tried the XD45 which felt like a dream in my hand, but won't feed SWC's (known issue) and it had more muzzle flip. My G21SF and SW1911 are here to stay.
 
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rising fuel price?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Glocks.
O.K the trigger is a littly bit "needs getting used to" but it's still my favorite handgun
 
What's wrong with glocks?

From a general perspective, nothing but their fans. It's a firearm, not a miracle, and the abilities of said firearm get overstated... by a lot... frequently.. and usually loudy... accompanied by a healthy dose of crass ignorance.... and a willingness to demonstrate such. It's a good gun with plenty of nice folks who shoot it. However, if i don't know you, and you want to talk about your glock, the fanbase has pretty much trained me to think you an idiot until you prove otherwise.

When you get down to specifics, there are some things wrong with them, but no showstoppers mostly the type of things where is you pick one thing, another thing has to suffer for it, or you can't simply ahve both.

About the only thing i think is a design issue is the poorly supported chamber. Not bad in 9mm (what it was originally designed for), could use a redesign in .40, and borderline in .45. All are aceptable with factory new ammo with reasonable pressure. The .45 is ok enough that I'd simpy recommend being judicious with how far you push handloads. The .40 I would probably swap with a factory aftermarket barrel.

The rest of the issues withthe glock are in the realm of normal variance between models, and the kind of things you use to decide between what guns are OK and what guns you REALLY like.

Grip angle is probably number one. I don't like it, but people are different, so I'm not one of those folks who think every gun should be 1911 shaped. The current grip angle is quite usable, but i don't like it that much. The original, more severe grip angle, was a bit of a PITA for me. Kind of like the steyr is.

Polygonal rifling. Personally I like polygonal barrels just fine, but they mean shooting lead is a bad idea. You like lead, then you probably won't like the polygonal barrel.

Trigger. It tends towards feeling spongy. Without proper polishing, you can feel the springs drag on stuff, and when set up heavy you can really feel it stack. When lightening a trigger, there is a tendency for the reset to become weak and indistinct. You can get a decent feeling trigger set up, but it requires some luck or skill. This last bit applies to most production guns.

Sights. They suck out of the box. Dovetailed sights would be nice, but if not, at least make them durable and a bit nicer.

No restrike capability. Like most striker fired guns. For some this is a must have feature.

Magazines. There are like 6 variants at this point or something stupid. Some drop free, some don't. Some are more prone to jamming, while others are generally problem free. Magazines are one of the most often overlooked items in the quality and reliability of a firearm. Glock just makes getting what you want a bit more confusing.

Frame flex. comes with polymer unless you reinforce it with metal. So you get flex on recoil, or you get a slightly heavier gun. I prefer a metal subframe like the M&P and Steyr. others don't. I find it to be a non-issue with 9mm, but a hot .40 or a mild 10mm will demonstrate it pretty well. A hot 10mm round will demonstrate it a very well.

Finger grooves. Some glock fans will hunt down 2nd gen guns just because of this. Although I like finger grooves when they are in the right place, they can be a major annoyance if they aren't placed right for YOU. That happens to be the case for a significant number of people. I used to think it wasn't that big a deal until i tired someone's gun with finger grooves in the wrong place for me, and it was REALLY annoying. So now I have more sympathy for that particular gripe.

Sensitivity to limp wristing or light loads. Glocks certainly are not the worst offender with regards to this, but they are more sensitive than a number of competitors, so it goes on the list of what's less than perfect.

No beavertail. The gun lends itself to a high grip, which is good. But lots of folks with meaty hands or a REALLy high grip get cut by the slide. I've shot guns that make me bleed, and I have zero patience for it given the number of guns I like that don't do that.


Then there is what the glocks DON'T do despite fanboy claims to the contrary. They do jam. Mainly because they don't like ammo loaded long (especially hollowpoints), the aforementioned limp-wristing, and just gettting plain dirty. The gun DOES need maintenance despite claims to the contrary. There's nothign wrong with this, but the reputation for being maintennace free isn't deserved.
 
I like Glocks because I had nothing but problems with the other handgun that has a cult following.

Do a search on Glock and LeonCarr to find out much much more :).

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Not a thing wrong with a Glock. Solid...Reliable...Durable...Accurate enough for the intended purpose. Not a thing "wrong" with a Glock. I just can't seem to wrap my hand around Glock's grip frame...which is a personal issue and has no bearing on the discussion. If you like'em...buy one. Few people are disappointed.
 
What's Wrong with'em?

Nothing.

What's wrong with them for me? A lot. I don't like the grip angle, the little thingie in the middle of the trigger. I don't like pistols without hammers or manual safeties (or at least decocking levers). But all of that is just me. I do respect the glocks for their rugged build and relentless function. I just feel that there are better options out there for me.
 
Nothing more than any other guns, unless of course you are referring to the quality, reliability, customer service, history, and cost. :)

There is a reason I own 2 and carry one as my CCP weapon. Glocks are not the end all be all of handguns, but with however many million owners and law enforcement uses out there, they couldn't be the piece of crap that some people say they are and have that kind of success and following.

Enjoy whatever you shoot, but make sure it is reliable.
 
...they couldn't be the piece of crap that some people say they are and have that kind of success and following.
The success of rap music might be an argument against that assumption.
 
I love my Glocks.

Just get whatever YOU feel comfortable with. I own XDs, HKs, Glocks, a Baby Eagle, and a few other handguns... but for me... my Glocks fit my hands the best and I shoot them well. But everyone is different... so go out and shoot a bunch of different guns and figure out what is best suited for YOU.
 
Tactical Tupperware

I've had one 1911 that digested ammo with the same lack of prejudice that my Glock does. It's a Les Baer. I have three Wilsons, they are very reliable when comparing them to the Kimbers I've had, but they should be... but so far, only the Les Baer has gone shoulder to shoulder with my Glock reliability-wise.

Mind you, the trigger on a Baer or Wilson makes it WAY easier to place a shot.

Point shooting, the Glock shoots too high for me. The grip angle is the problem for me. The only way to find out if it's a problem (or solution) for you is to go try some point shooting.
 
For everyone problem, there's ten solutions.

It seems a lot of folks have problems with the Glock stock receiver. Here's a solution... Stippling:
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Trust me, it feels a whole lot better if you choose to stipple your Glock using a soldering iron.
 
The Glock is widespread, consistent, well priced, mass produced, loved by many, loathed by others.......

My God, I know...... its as Big Mac.....:cool:

Now what would the Starbucks one be ?

Over priced, everywhere, "designer", more variations than can be natural.
 
The reason

People buy Glocks for the same reason people buy Toyota Camry's and Honda Accord's by the boat load.


They may not be the best looking thing out there, but they are passable, and rarely break. They simply do the job they are meant to do better than most other options.

Personally, I hate the Glock grip angle, but I still shoot it accurately. In fact, despite my hate for the grip angle its probably going to be my next CCW!! I just need it to work!!!!!!!!
 
In my case, personal taste. I like slim, steel framed guns with single action triggers, and decent sights. Glocks are wide, polymer framed guns with goofy triggers, horrible sights, and don't point well for me. Also, I like to shoot cheap lead bullet reloads. Poly rifling isn't the best idea for that. I know that I could retrain my hands to point a glock, with enough practice, but will not do so unless Glock pays me money for it, rather than the other way around. I know that I could swap out the barrel, but again, why?

In firearms, since I'm generally paying money for any gun I get, it seems like a good idea to spend my money on something that I actually like. Therefore, I don't own any glocks. If you prefer a glock to any of my pet favorites, I can respect that. I can't understand it :neener:, but I respect it.

~~~Mat
 
Glocks function well enough, my problem with them is ergonomics. Grip angle is off and no beavertail. Glocks just don't fit my hands well enough for my tastes.

Glocks are well built guns, respectably accurate, reasonably priced, and quite reliable. I just prefer a 'tailor' fit over an 'off the rack' fit.
 
Absolutely nothing. They're priced well, reliable, durable and accurate. :)

Well, almost nothing... Some people, myself included, think they totally suck to shoot. I've tried to like them, in spite of the crappy ergonomics, wierd trigger and awkward grip angle. I guess I'll help the rabid Glock 'perfection' crowd (another reason for Glock bashing) by refraining from getting any to make them more available for those who understand all the numbers...:banghead:

By the way, I actually mean both statements...
 
I own six Glocks. I have never had an negative issue with any of them. Perfect operation on all of them since day one. I enjoy Glock's "less is more" styling and functionality. No gimmicks. I really could care less who likes or dislikes Glocks. I'd definately say Glocks are number 1 to me, and for the record, I own Kimbers, SIGs, H&Ks, Ruger, etc.... so I have lots of variety and experience to base my opinion on.
 
I personally don't like glocks because I cannot shoot accurately with them for anything and plus I prefer metal guns with hammers. Its all personal preference. I think we all know they are reliable guns.
 
The only things wrong with Glocks are, potentially, the subjective factors that lead people to like or hate guns. Objectively, Glocks are pretty solid designs. Subjectively, you either like various things like trigger pull, hand feel, pointability, and aesthetics on the Glock, or you don't.

My main gripes are the grip and the trigger. And yes, I own one. I probably won't buy another, but I'm in no hurry to sell it, either.

Mike
 
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