Just Now Watching Shooter

Point of Impact by Stephen Hunter.

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aha! something of worth gleaned from that nutty movie (and this resultingly nutty thread!)

Going to the library tomorrow..

What about the part where he silenced the 22 with plastic water bottle filled with leaves. Does anyone think that would really work? It seems like the bottle would just fly off from the muzzle pressure.

It would suppress some of the noise, but I think it would be defenitly audible in which the guys beating the **** out of the fbi agent would be able to hear.

Plus if the bullet were to strike anywhere around the holes edge of the pop bottle, it wouldn't be very accurate.

The movie is full of unbelievable BS if you ask me, I was pretty disappointed. I still like 'sniper' with tom barrenger

I thought shooter was kool. I watched it like 7 times in two days!!

Oh and the 20 Oz. thing on the .22 LR really does work

Campers...

Comparing Sniper to Shooter?

Shooter wins.

The Berenger movie was seriously contrived. While Shooter was no work of the ballistician's art, overall, it wasnt' all that bad. And I can conceive where a guy with a .22 could, given forethought and dedication, make some serious offhand head shots. Don't any of y'all shoot CMP?

the 22LR is not a round to be scoffed at. ask any of the alaskans who routinely kill seals, otters, and wolves with it. single shot to the head so they can save the fur.

the 22LR shots were highly improbable... but then, he's a super sniper. it's kind of like superman.. it's highly unlikely that he can lift a car - but then, he's a super man.

bolt action didn't morph, he had it hidden under some cover.. rewind and watch that part again.

I don't know about the USMC but in the army we use Meters and not Yards. I was taken out of the movie in the first minute when he gave his range estimation in yards.

If you watch the "extras" on the DVD, you learn that they used a very competent military/ballistics adviser, but had to make some compromises with reality for presentation in an audio-visual medium.

I enjoyed the movie, but I definitely had to turn off the accuracy filter for most of it.

The book, OTOH, was great. It never really felt right that the movie Swagger, with his paranoia and cointel training, would have immediately believed their hokey story and fallen so neatly into that trap. With book Swagger being a Viet Nam vet I felt that that they did a better job of pressing the right buttons. Somalia just doesn't seem to have the same emotional impact.

I would point out that in the book, Bob Lee uses some kind of magical paint ball tranquilizer to down large animals and de-horn them so that trophy hunters won't kill them. That's not that much weirder than anything shown in the movie.

I would point out that in the book, Bob Lee uses some kind of magical paint ball tranquilizer to down large animals and de-horn them so that trophy hunters won't kill them. That's not that much weirder than anything shown in the movie.

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That was the biggest problem I had with the book.

Those of you who expect reality in fiction are always going to be disappointed.

Quote " I don't know about the USMC but in the army we use Meters and not Yards. I was taken out of the movie in the first minute when he gave his range estimation in yards. "


We used meters in USMC Infantry, but Snipers used yards. They are the only ones I remember who did not use meters.

...magical paint ball tranquilizer...

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That was a delrin bullet Bob used to stun the animal. No magic (or paint ball guns) involved.

You just have to watch a movie and enjoy it.

NO movie will EVER be made to the satisfaction of all of it's viewers.

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- You can quote me on that.

You know how many times Cops/Detectives would be upset about cop movies?

Or Doctor's watching hospital movies?

Things have to be done to make movies "ENTERTAINING".

Believe me, Hollywood does NOT make movies solely to make GUN ENTHUSIASTS happy, or any other select group.

Just turn your brain off, grab the popcorn and enjoy.

I believe that the "tarp" he pulled off of the Barret in the first part of the movie was a Blackhawk Long Gun Sniper Drag Bag. Not a tarp.

It was a .50 cal Barrett in the first part of the movie and a Cheytac .408 later in the movie.

So when they were saying .50 cal earlier, they weren't really wrong. They were guessing what he would use.

I thought his buddy's widow was hot...

Oh, and the guns were cool, too.

I met a bloke who supplies weapons to movies in the UK he's in the TA and once turned up for annual camp with 50 different automatic weapons in his van
film crews often hire very experienced blokes and then totally disregard everything they say
he's happy as long as he can keep the actors and crew from killing themselves
(try looking down the barrel of a blank adapted uzi and pulling the trigger you may not have a face left)
he reckoned american actors were the worst " hey I'm american I know about guns " yeah like gun safety is a genetic trait