can we have a non fanboy discussion about glock?

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I hated them when they arrived. Plastic gun? Then guns disappeared from my life for about 15 years....I started out again with a CZ75, 1911 38 super and lowered myself for a Glock 32.

My Glocks (Heine [older man rear sight notch] night sights adorn my G20, G32 and soon on my G-35)....are my home defense guns and a blast to shoot. I shoot lead 10mm's with my Barsto barrel (bought a case or two of the American Eagle high antimony loads when they were on sale for $9.00box).

I think they are outstanding and was the most skeptical at first. Shoots and shoots and shoots.....
 
I really wish there was a 7.62X25mm Glock and a 38super/9X23mm Winchester Glock....that would be really nice.
 
My 3 Glocks have been ... Accurate. Reliable. Comfortable. 2 G17s and a G19C.
 
The "glock only" crowd is a sheltered, uninformed bunch.

That beind said...Glocks are insanely reliable and easy to care for. They have the best finish in the business (puts SIG to shame)

They are boring and rather ugly - but I dont think you will find a better durable, reliable pistol.

Perfection? - uh no. But a damn good design.
 
iv only shot a hand full of glocks (17, 19, 26? and the 23) i never found the grip angle or the trigger to be good. build quality is "eh" in my eyes. good enough i dont think it would be a draw back but not as good as everyone claims. i never found the ones i shot to be that accurate.
 
I own a few Glocks to include the G19/26/36/30 and, purposely tried to cause a malfunction with all of them by limp wristing.. Couldn't do it. Guess I wasn't limp wristing correctly.. Grip, grip angle, how it points, squishy trigger and all that kinda stuff some folks have issues with; I had the same issues at first but adapted and got over those issues after a few range evolutions. For self defense, glocks are reliable and just plain simple to use - point and shoot, no safety to fidget with when you jump start out of a deep sleep from that bump noise in the middle of the night. The stock plastic sights are crummy but there are plenty of aftermarket sights that will suffice. The Glock 19 and 23 are not ugly.. Most of the other Glocks are...

For self defense reasons, a revolver might be the best way to get rid of the limp wristing issue. Simple to use - no safety to fidget with - point and shoot - reliable. I suggest a S&W Model 10.
 
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If your hand/arm has been damaged to the point that you would inadvertently limp-wrist a Glock, I doubt you would be able to manipulate any pistol, from any manufacturer.

Glocks are sprung too heavy from the factory, especially the semi-compact (G19, G23) models. I recommend an 11-13# spring in 9mm Glocks, 13-15# in 0.40s. Shorten the spring by 5-6 coils if you're using it in a compact frame.

- Chris
 
I am a Fan and under every circumstance, I've tried, I have not been able to get my Glock 19 or 26 to malfunction.
 
Limp writh ting? Don't be thilly...

Ultra lite revolvers can be worse. Bullets will back out of their cases and cause the revolver to fail to revolve, making it simply an er, which is the noise you will make in an SD situation when you can no longer get it to fire.

Choose your ammo wisely. Stronger springs may prefer +p ammo. And bullet crimps just show you, the end user, that the manufacturer is willing to go that extra mile for that "six for sure".
 
Never had my Glock limp wrist. I have done thousands of experiments on it to. Never one malfunction, stovepipe, or jam. I am a fanboy sorry!
 
It is not a glock thing.

Limpwrist tested and malfunctioned as a result.

Para Warthawg
XD 45 4" (after trying over and over and over...)
a few glocks


There is a correct way an din incorrect way to shoot. Do it wrong and you will have problems.
 
Re: the Glock's grip angle, I finally figured out that I had to hold it higher to obtain a natural pointing feel. The Glock's greatest attribute seems to be a combination of low price and durable components. Never before have I been able to pay so little, and neglect a pistol so much as I have been able to with my Glocks. They aren't "pretty" pistols, but they sure are functional pistols.
 
W.E.G. I have some questions regarding the pictures of cases you posted. could you please repost your pictures in another thread and PM me the URL. Thanks
 
Well, I have shot them, they and have never felt "right" in the hand for me. The annoying thing is, I was able to punch the center out of the target with each pistol I shot. Didn't have a jam in there either. Then, there's the aftermarket pimping out of the gun if one wants to. Not as bad as a 1911, but more than any other kind of pistol.

There's gotta be something to them. I just don't own one yet.
 
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I've never had a problem with 'limp-wristing.' Ever. With any autoloader.

Sounds to me like more myth and lore arising due to improper shooting technique.
 
I have actually tried to

1. Cause a malfunction by holding the pistol loosely

2. Get it to go bang without actually pulling the trigger

I have never been able to do either

My 14 year old daughter can shoot my G17 weak hand and it works....I cannot imagine how you can actually support it so poorly that it malfunctions but does not fly out of your hand

There is plenty of hype (both for and against) re: Glock pistols
 
The only glock I own is a G34

I shot a friend's 34 and I was putting whole magazines through one 2 inch hole at 7 yards. I had to have one of my own after that.


I've rented allot of pistols at the SGC to get some personal experience and the glocks, while not fun to hold at the counter, were more comfortable for me to shoot:

-G26 had less felt recoil than the S&W M&P9C. It seemed strange to me as the S&W was so much more comfortable to hold.

-G23 had less felt recoil than the 40 Sigma and the XD in 40, both of which felt better in the hand.
(That said the M&P 40 full size was the best of the 40s in felt recoil, shooting comfort, and trigger)


They are reliable and easy to repair:

-The glocks were also rented more that most of the other pistols, the new shooters want to shoot that famous glock nyne or forty.

-The gun that I saw in the rental case more than any other was glocks, they were rarely out for service.

-Most of the repairs can be made on site and parts are cheap. My friend with the 34 can rebuild an entire gun at home with a few simple tools.


My conclusions:

-All were acceptably accurate and reliable with 100rnds of magtech.

-I didn’t like the XD’s mostly for their high bore axis, it tended to flip up a little more than the others.

-I like the S&W M&P for a full size and the glock for the sub compacts.

-The glocks are cheap and easy to fix when needed.

-The glock is the easiest gun to keep clean that I own.


Most of the above is MHO but this is the absolute truth: If you want the best gun for you, SHOOT FIRST and BUY LATER.
-A gun that feels great in the hand is not always a gun that feels great to shoot.
 
I had a Glock 34 that I absolutely loved. I never had a problem with the 3.5" trigger, though it did take some getting used when carrying with one in the chamber. Thing I liked about it was how well it shot. The recoil was nil, rapid fire kept it mostly in the black at 25 yards, and the only pistol I've ever been able to consistenly double tap with. I traded it to get an old S&W .38/44 heavy duty with the understanding that I could easily get another any time. I've been toying with that idea considering what it can do with +p ammo. Chamber was tight on mine, my FNP9-M will feed things it wouldn't (only sloppy reloads, never malf'd on factory ammo of any kind.
 
I fired a G17 once, and I'm not a big fan of the trigger. I really didn't like the look of the disassembly procedure, although perhaps a person with better dexterity than the guy I watch do it would have better luck.

To be fair, while my Kel-Tec P11 comes apart great, getting it back together has given me a hassle a bunch of times, and the trigger is hard (but smooth).

I think they are great guns for the price, and I will probably buy one some day, just not tomorrow.
 
I'm neither a fan nor a hater - more like the great "whatever".

I had a 21 that I was unable to induce a malf by gripping it weak hand, one hand, not exactly straight up-and-down. Cool. Couldn't get used to the grip angle or shape and the trigger took more effort to get used to than I was prepared to devote to the enterprise.

But I can't say nasty stuff about something that did was it was supposed to - wound up selling it to somebody with a little less attitude about triggers, grips and whatever. Great if suits you - if not, not so much.

I wound up with a polymer 1911. Go figure.
 
cause i tried to limp wrist mine several times and it never did
Can ANYONE limp wrist successfully when they try it? It either comes naturally or not at all, methinks.
I've done it twice in a row in one day (in 50rds) with a 1911. Last round of the mag didn't feel like going in. Then I decided to do a death-grip of sorts. It worked flawlessly after that.
I have the suspicion... may not be true... but I'm thinking that you can't limp-wrist when firing one-handed. My limp-wrist was a... relaxed, I guess you'd say, two-handed grip of a Weaverish sort. My limited experience may be clouding what I see, but it seems that, in the years after the adoption of a two-handed hold, limp-wrist problems came into being.

I think they are the ugliest looking guns I have ever seen
Google 'Nambu'. And 'Hi-Point'. Glocks look classy by comparison.
 
Chris Rhines said:
Glocks are sprung too heavy from the factory, especially the semi-compact (G19, G23) models. I recommend an 11-13# spring in 9mm Glocks, 13-15# in 0.40s. Shorten the spring by 5-6 coils if you're using it in a compact frame.

Can you elaborate? I'm just curious, as this is the first time that I can remember reading such a recommendation. I'm not implying that you're wrong; I simply want to know why I should perform this modification on my G19, as I've never experienced any malfunctions and hesitate to mess with what seems to work fine from the factory. If there is a valid reason, I'm all ears.

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I really didn't like the look of the disassembly procedure, although perhaps a person with better dexterity than the guy I watch do it would have better luck.

I'm not sure what you mean by that, as the disassembly of a Glock is a procedure of utmost simplicity. It does require that you pull the trigger, although that shouldn't be a problem for anyone with enough sense to make sure that a round isn't chambered before doing so. I can disassemble my Glock in a matter of seconds -- it's an extremely simple and effortless thing to do, and the 19 was my first handgun. :confused:
 
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