Just makes you shake your head

Four afield

My brother, myself, and our two closest friends where pheasant hunting one day. My brother who is highly educated, but a little lacking brought a .22 Marlin. The rest of us all have shotguns, and we line up North to South on this field we saw a bunch land in. My best friends 3 legged dog comes hopping into the field,and a flurry of feathers comes next. My brother swings towards the line drawing down on us! I shoulder tackle my brother's best friend, big farm boy, as my best friend grabs my foot in a diving lunge. The three of us go down and my brother unloads all 15 rounds out of his Marlin. Hitting nothing while yellin, "what are you guys doin down there, they are getting away!" We have never musterred the courage to take him out shootin again.

witnessed at a Fourth of July party (held in June)

This drunken fool produced an awfully short coach gun in 12 ga. from the trunk of his car. After verifying that it was LOADED, he picked up an empty bottle that only said RUM on the label and tossed it into the air in front of him. He managed to absolutely smoke it about 8 feet from the muzzle

The clip vs magazine thing is right up there in terms of annoyance with me as the people who will crucify you for a picture where 1 of the 4 rules is violated - even if a competent gun owner made the weapon completely safe for the purpose of that picture.

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I have worked in Electronic Security engineering and technical support for over 25 years. NOMENCLATURE IS IMPORTANT! While I would not deny someone a magazine because he asked for a clip, I might toss him a carabiner because I didn't know what he was talking about. In fact, he might get a paper clip, an "E" clip (retainter ring), a roach clip, a hair clip, or even a pair of nail clippers. It is just too broad a term to be useful. I have taken a couple of classes from Bill Davison, a Brit. In a recent class he was relating a story when he stopped and asked, "Do Americans say spade or shovel, I forget?". He was smart enough to recognize the importance of nomenclature. So should we all be.

With all due respect to everyone here on the clip = magazine thing, it is just like the Taser = stun gun, Jello = gelatin, Coke = soda, walkie talkie = handi talkie thing or any number of other things. Alot of things have become synonymous with a brands name for something. Please have patience and try to teach those who want to learn. Those who don't want to learn can go on somewhere. I grew up hearing magazines called clips, but have known better for quite a few years now and call them magazines. Many people don't know any better. Just like I don't have a firm grasp of English writing skills and how to use punctuation marks and such. Sorry! I'm off the soap box now.

had one guy buy a rifle/scope that I boresighted, then he hurt his hand and his wife ended up shooting a deer with that new rifle without sighting it in. I was sorta shocked when he told me about it later, but I guess the deer didn't know the difference - one shot, one deer.

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Yeah, and a blind hog will find a accorn once in a while too! But how many wounded deer have run off to die unfound? My guess would be 999 out of 1000!:banghead:

Many years ago (probably in the 'late '40s) one of Dad's buddy's at work, Tex, talked him into going hunting with him. Early one morning they drove to the area that Tex liked to hunt. As they were walking down a path in a wooded area, they met another hunter coming in the opposite direction and struck up a conversation.

While they were quietly talking, the stranger suddenly stopped, looked down the trail for a moment, brought up his shotgun and fired.

Tex & Dad asked him what he was shooting at and he replied, "That was a Sound Shot."

Tex & Dad went home.

I thought Smoe was that guy that used to fight with Captain Hook against Peter Pan...

I was at the gun store last weekend and overheard someone behind the counter saying that while he didn't like the helical magazine on the Calico, it did have an advantage because you could release the spring tension and leave it loaded without the spring wearing out

cobrian45 said:

2. I inherited an old Japanese rifle from my Grandfather when he died. My family knows that I not only shoot, but collect and it had a nice little story behind it relating to my Grandfather and his brother. I got a box of ammo with half of the casings empty and very oddly shaped. The caliber of the rounds was in 7.7 Jap, but they had fire-formed almost to point that the shoulder was now about 1/8" from the neck of the casing. I decided that the gun wasn't worth shooting until I figured out the problem, but it is a curio/relic in my collection that I don't intend to try out ever.

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The rifle may have been rechambered to use the 30-06 cartridge. The bullet of a stock '06 would be undersize and the '06 case is too small in the rear. IF you really wanted to shoot the beast, a good chamber cast would help you determine the actual chamber dimensions.
Even with a poorly fitting rear chamber/case match, light but accurate cast bullet loads could be worked up for the rifle.

Nolo

....shoots him in the dead. yup, that will do it every time.:

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had one guy buy a rifle/scope that I boresighted, then he hurt his hand and his wife ended up shooting a deer with that new rifle without sighting it in. I was sorta shocked when he told me about it later, but I guess the deer didn't know the difference - one shot, one deer.

Yeah, and a blind hog will find a accorn once in a while too! But how many wounded deer have run off to die unfound? My guess would be 999 out of 1000!

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Well, actually - I had several other customers come in later and say that scopes that I had boresighted were only an inch or so off when they shot them at a 100 yd target. Not that I would ever recommend hunting without actually test firing the rifle, but I'd guess the odds are a lot better than that on deer sized game.

My friend got a good deal on a reloading setup and was all excited to show me. He says, this deal was so good I couldn't pass it up. He owns a 30-06 BTW. The reloading setup was a shotgun system. The look on his face, man that was funny.

Shake your head and laugh

Years ago our deer hunting crew adopted an ex hired man of one of the land owners him name was Todd. He hunted with us for a few years quicky earning the new name ReTodd. He didn't do anything dangerous but some of the things we witnessed him do were unbeilevable.
We are a shotgun state for deer hunting one year he arrived bright and early for opening day and after we went our seperate ways to make the first drive my cell phone started going off, ReTodd was in a panic he had driven 40 miles that morning and upon exiting his vehicle opening morning discovered he had brought a Ruger 10/22 instead of his shotgun. On another day we witnessed ReTodd on post with deer spilling out about 100 yards in front of him, now picture this ReTodd is a good 300 lbs we watched this big guy run after the herd of deer trying to close the distance between himself and the deer. He ran and ran and ran by the time he stopped to take a shot the deer were 300 yards from him. After retreiving him from the section we asked him what the sam hill he thought he was doing running after the deer, he thought he could run faster than the deer and get a closer shot.
ReTodd doesn't hunt with us anymore but we still laugh at his expense!

Had one female officer show up for qualification with .38 revolver and .308 cartridges - guess she did not look at the box real careful when she bought them. Yeah, I know, she was..... not the best officer I ever met.
When I assisted on the firing range, I always carried a loaded Garand clip in my pocket. If someone said he needed a loaded "clip", I would hand that to them. Got the whole "Magazine" vs "clip" thing sorted out real quick.

Took my suitemate to a range near our school where some interesting things happend.
Admitedly it was his first time shooting a rifle but he thought he was hotter than hell with it because he said he had played airsoft which was (I kid you not) 'better than going to the range for learning guns because it puts you in a 'combat enviroment'' :banghead:
Well we go up to the firing line and he I load up my MN for him. He fires one round and...continues to pull the trigger, over and over. Finally after 3 or 4 tries looks at me with a really puzzled look. 'Why won't if fire?' 'Uh....because you have to work the bolt...'
So he tries to work the bolt. One problem: he keeps (somehow) turning with the rifle so that the entire rifle moves but the bolt remains in the same position. He keeps getting frustrated then he turns around with the rifle in hand straight at me! Well made sure to grab that thing, turn it around, and give him a good chewing out. Needless to say, I haven't been to the range with him since.

Quote:1. I was going squirrel with a friend. His brother-in-law came along. He was showing me his new .22 that he just picked up the night before. I asked him if he had sighted in the scope yet. He said "I don't have to. This scope was on my old rifle, it's already sighted in" !!!

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Either he'll figure it out, or never hit what he's aiming at.

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You wanna ask me what's going to happen? You end up giving the dude a half hour lecture on why he needs to sight in his scope after moving it to the new rifle, with pictures and circles and arrows on the back, all of that.

And then he takes aim, shoots, hits dead centre. First time.

Life's like that.

Randy

I've considered that, and the possibility that the Japanese unwisely chambered the same gun for multiple calibers. The story behind the gun is that is was disassembled on the battlefront and shipped in pieces back to the States. It was then re-assembled here. (Still has the plier marks on the barrel to prove it! ) It could be any number of factors and the cost wouldn't be worth getting the gun in order since I have about a half dozen other different mil-surps from then that I can play with. Although the big flip up airplane sight is great. I love that.

And with that, I become a Senior Member in this august forum. I still feel the same.

Looks like ol' Bobby is quick on the draw, but slow on the reading comprehension.

25 years ago I was going pheasant hunting with a good buddy (whom I had shot alot with) and his brother and his brother's best friend. While waiting for my buddy to show up I watched his brother and his brother's best friend do a good 5-6 shots from a bottle of Jack Daniels and then proceed to load their shotguns. I quickly remembered that I had to work that day. I miss pheasant hunting in South Dakota but I'll never miss morons like that.

Several years ago I was at an informal range out in the country and a fellow shows up with a bradn new to him used Remington pump gun in .30-06. Nie looking gun visited wtih him a few minutes as he is setting up to shoot it. I noticed that the scope seemed to be set awfull far to the rear but he assures me that he knows what he is doing. Yup you guessed it 1st shot gets a world class case of scope eye. I helped him stop the bleeding but I would swear the guy kept looking at me like it was my fault.

I have worked in Electronic Security engineering and technical support for over 25 years. NOMENCLATURE IS IMPORTANT! While I would not deny someone a magazine because he asked for a clip, I might toss him a carabiner because I didn't know what he was talking about. In fact, he might get a paper clip, an "E" clip (retainter ring), a roach clip, a hair clip, or even a pair of nail clippers. It is just too broad a term to be useful. I have taken a couple of classes from Bill Davison, a Brit. In a recent class he was relating a story when he stopped and asked, "Do Americans say spade or shovel, I forget?". He was smart enough to recognize the importance of nomenclature. So should we all be.

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When he says magazine do you toss him an American Rifleman or a Guns and Ammo

cobrian45 said:

I've considered that, and the possibility that the Japanese unwisely chambered the same gun for multiple calibers.

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Not what I had in mind - - it was a common (although not too safe) practice to re-chamber 7.7 Japanese rifles with a stock 30-'06 reamer with a 7.7 pilot so the rifle could be fired with reloads. I wasn't assigning any of the responsibility to the Japanese.

Get a chamber cast if you are at all interested in shooting the rifle, I think it would be fun to be able to do so. You would not need any special dies just a 7.7 (.311) expanding ball and the normal seater.

BTW - the Prewar and early WWII Japanese rifles are some of the strongest actions ever fielded in a military weapon.

A few links somewhat on the subject:
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-1856.html
http://www.reloadbench.com/cartridges/77j.html
http://www.thehighroad.org/printthread.php?t=19507&pp=150


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Back in my hometown we had one particularly bright deputy who was showing off his new Ruger AC-556. Had a loaded 20rd "clip" in it and a round in the chamber. Swings it around one handed and manages to put about 8 rds through the windshield of his cruiser.

Politcians!!!!!

i've seen and heard so much stupid stuff i really can't pinpoint much of it... i have heard and saw some of the stuff you guys have mentioned.. one of the things lately is all these young MACHO guys looking at s&w .500 magnum this and .460 that............one of the things that really got me to shakin my head was this fall a rival for a girl was threatening to shoot my nieces son and she was going to stand out with him if the guy showed up:banghead:... i told her she better keep her a$$ inside cause getting shot hurts like hell i bet!

Two weeks ago we had a guy who wanted to teach his girlfriend to shoot. Okay, here's a Mark II, when you're ready, come on back and get something else.

They were in there for about an hour, during which time absolutely nothing he told her penetrated her skull. The place had a good crowd, all of whom were busy looking at the guns in the cases and had their backs to the door to the range.

She slammed the door, crouched, and started aiming the Mark II at the backs of various customers. I was standing near the instructor and we could the see the bolt locked back and the stupid grin on her face. Lucky for her, her boyfriend was pretty quick. He got her before we did. He grabbed the gun before any of the customers turned around.

All I could have said to the detectives was, "I would have shot her, too."