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I would think you'd have discussed this with your neighbors beforehand,
 
...I believe in Wisconsin, you can legally go onto the land to recover the animal.

No. In Wisconsin, you need the property holder's permission to retrieve or track a downed animal.

As long as the owner is not an anti, or you don't have a history of bad relations with the owner, you probably won't have a hard time finding them or getting permission during the deer season in wisconsin.
 
I lost a doe several years back. Shot her on State Park land and she took off and jumped the fence onto private ground and dropped dead in a pasture about 75 ft. in. I could easily see her from the fence.

Walked about 3/4 mile back to my car, put all my stuff in except for Orange hat and vest. Walked another 1/4 mile to get the landowners driveway and then walked another 1/2 mile to get to his house. I asked very nicely if I could recover my deer that had run onto his property and died. In no uncertain terms, I was told "NO" and to leave immediately and to never come back and never ask again. So I called the CPO. By the time he got there and we walked back (on the state side of the fence) to where the deer was, the Landowner and one of his sons had her gutted and just about finished tying her onto a four wheeler. The CPO stopped them. He checked the blood trail, said yep she had been shot on State ground and jumped the fence, and asked the Land owner if he would be willing to let me have my deer. He said "NO", he had one of his landowner tags on her, so the CPO told me I was basically SOL and maybe the next one I shot would stay on my side of the fence.


There are some nasty guys out there.

Sorry about your deer at least it was a doe :D



Ricky
 
In Montana, the "Three Kicks" rule applies :D
(sorry, if you don't know that joke)


Anyway, as a landowner and a hunter, my position is that is it okay with me to retrieve game that you have shot as long as you were legal where you shot the game. I might even call the neighbor to see if you had permission.

If you were already trespassing on my neighbor's place and/or just road hunting, you can darn well bet I will call the sheriff and F&G :mad:

As for me, I've already got permission to hunt on most of the properties adjoining mine, so it isn't a big issue. I've shot two deer now on my place, and neither one have gone very far. One neighbor feeds and waters the deer, and he keeps inviting me to just come shoot one in his yard :rolleyes:
 
I later found out why he was such a hard case. He did have a legitimate gripe. He had run off lots of locals poaching on (and generally trashing) his land. So nobody, no way, no how was gonna come on his land no matter what, Period, End of Story.

I've run into the son several times over the course of the years and have talked to him over the fence. (Their property runs all along the southern boundary of where I hunt. The trails runs along the fence. ) The son still says "Sorry about your deer." when we pass and we'll talk for awhile before going on about our business.

Sorry about your deer at least it was a doe

Mrs. Scout prefers does in the freezer. I did take another one the next day, though not as big.
 
So Ricky- What did you do?


I did not have this happen im just geting ready for next year or the end of 2008 for deer hunting on a new lot and was wondering what to do if something like this did happen.


Ricky
 
Well, maybe you should just go talk to the landowners now ....

Its never a bad idea to get to know the landowners.... but I don't think I would broach this subject preimptively.

As a landowner myself, if someone came to be at the beginning of the season and told me that he would be hunting on the neighboring property and asked me about entering my land to retrieve shot deer, guess what my suspicions are...

Yep, that is a person PLANNING on shooting over the line and is clearing the way for easy recovery.

No. If you shoot a deer that gets on my land, you need to talk to me PRIOR to entering my land. I will want to see the blood trail if I am to believe that your deer crossed over.


If I sound like I am being anal, I've earned it through dozens and dozens of people trespassing and poaching. You may be honest, but the 25 others that came over poisoned that well of trust. Once my father walked to his deer stand and started climbing the ladder before he realized some A-hole was SITTING in HIS deer stand.


-- John
 
cassandrasdaddy
You and the police were incorrect. I'm guessing reasonable would be to attempt to contact the land owner. Other circumstances would be open to interpretation.

They could write the general regulations a little clearer though.

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/general.asp
"Kill or cripple and knowingly allow any non-migratory game bird or game animal to be wasted without making a reasonable effort to retrieve the animal and retain it in possession. "

http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/privateproperty.asp
"Hunters are reminded that it is unlawful to hunt on private property without the permission of the landowner and hunters must have the permission of the landowner to track or retrieve wounded game on private property."
 
I lost a doe several years back. Shot her on State Park land and she took off and jumped the fence onto private ground and dropped dead in a pasture about 75 ft. in. I could easily see her from the fence.

Walked about 3/4 mile back to my car, put all my stuff in except for Orange hat and vest. Walked another 1/4 mile to get the landowners driveway and then walked another 1/2 mile to get to his house. I asked very nicely if I could recover my deer that had run onto his property and died. In no uncertain terms, I was told "NO" and to leave immediately and to never come back and never ask again. So I called the CPO. By the time he got there and we walked back (on the state side of the fence) to where the deer was, the Landowner and one of his sons had her gutted and just about finished tying her onto a four wheeler. The CPO stopped them. He checked the blood trail, said yep she had been shot on State ground and jumped the fence, and asked the Land owner if he would be willing to let me have my deer. He said "NO", he had one of his landowner tags on her, so the CPO told me I was basically SOL and maybe the next one I shot would stay on my side of the fence.

and this is why we gave up on bolt action rifles and built the ak47
 
There is only one correct answer. Read the game laws. And no, they're not hidden in some obscure archives, at least not here. Every place that sells hunting licenses has a free booklet that explains game laws. I'd suggest reading them.

I used to write outdoors articles for the local paper. For one article, I talked to a Game Warden and asked him about laws that guys were breaking but thought they were OK. This is one example. If you're on somebody elses land in Indiana without permission, it's trespassing and you can be arrested, handcuffed, and taken to jail for processing.

You are required to make a reasonable attempt to recover a game animal. (Here in Indiana) ask the landowner. If they refuse, the CO will escort you to retrieve it whether the land owner likes it or not.

As a side note, you cannot hunt on railroad property or right-of-way. That is an automatic trip to jail if you're caught.
 
In addition to reading the Regs for your state, I'll also recommend taking a Hunter Safety Ed Course.

Here in Illinois we have a CPO come to each class and this question always comes up. And the answer (again here in Illinois) is basically Wanton Waste is bad, but your reasonable effort to recover the animal ends at the property line. If the landowner refuses to let you on the property to recover the animal you then call the CPO's, and they'll do what they can to get you your animal (as long as you weren't trespassing or violating other laws, in the first place.)

Ricky, you have asked several questions about hunting. I would really recommend that you take a hunter safety ed course. It's not just for kids, because if you ever plan on hunting outside of your home state, more and more states are requiring non-resident hunters to have taken the Hunter Safety course.
 
rabid rabbit

thanks for the links.gonna hate telling my neighbor.did i read it right though are you still legal to recover dogs so long as you aren't armed and identify yourself if confronted?
 
Leaving wounded game in the woods would weigh more on my conscience than breaking a game law would.

Getting in legal trouble is a risk I'm willing to take if it means following a (to me) higher law...
 
Guys, we aren't talking about a WOUNDED animal.

she took off and jumped the fence onto private ground and dropped dead in a pasture about 75 ft. in.


Wounded and I would give a LOT more leeway. Dead, and you better be coming to talk to me if I am the landowner in this scenerio.


-- John
 
In IN you have to call a conservation officer and they can recover the deer for you with or without permission. This happens a lot in urban hunts as there are many properties close together. It might be wise to do the same in your state.
 
I make a point, prior to hunting, to get to know the land owners around me. This is called planning. I and all the hunters around me have had this discussion and have agreed that its ok to retrieve a downed deer on each others property. But we also know that there had better be a trail leading to that deer from off the property. In other words it had better not have been poached!
 
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