Officers shoot each other in Gwinnett (Georgia)

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Officers wounded after shooting at each other in Gwinnett
By ANDRIA SIMMONS
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/01/08

Gwinnett County investigators say two off-duty police officers -- one from Fulton County, the other from Duluth -- got into a gunfight in on a quiet suburban street Friday afternoon.

The Fulton officer suffered non-life threatening injuries, but Illana Spellman, spokeswoman for the Gwinnett County police, said she didn't how badly the Duluth officer was hurt. The Duluth officer was "the aggressor" and will be charged with aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer, Spellman said.

The Fulton officer was wearing his police uniform and driving a marked car to his home in Gwinnett county when he stopped about 1 p.m. on Level Creek road to help a woman pedestrian who flagged him down, Spellman said.

Spellman didn't provide details about what happened next, but the Fulton officer ended up up trading gunfire with the Duluth police officer, who was wearing street clothes.

Both men were taken to Gwinnett Medical Center. Police didn't release their identities.

Richard Santry, who lives nearby, said his wife was driving to work when a woman beside the road yelled for help. Santry said his wife stopped to help and was shocked when a man jumped out from behind a vehicle. Gunshots were fired and she hit the ground and called 911, Santry said.

Duluth Police Chief Randy Belcher, contacted late Friday at the police station, said he'd just visited the Duluth officer at the hospital but could not comment on the case. Belcher said the Duluth police would conduct their own investigation of the shooting.

Fulton County police declined comment Friday.

The shooting unnerved many residents who moved to Sugar Hill to enjoy suburban tranquility.

Anthony Reed said his aunt, Mildred Reed, 78, witnessed some of the shooting from her kitchen window. Anthony Reed said she reported seeing a car come down Level Creek Road, turn around in the parking lot of Liberty Baptist Church, go back the opposite direction, run off the road and strike a fire hydrant. Anthony Reed said a man got out of the car and shooting began a few minutes later.

"The city has come to the country," Anthony Reed said.

Sandra McKee, who lives in the neighborhood, said people in the neighborhood often exercise on the two-lane Level Creek Road.

"Can you imagine if one of us had been out walking," she said. "This is really creepy."

The shooting happened about a mile from North Gwinnett High but had no immediate effect on the school, said district spokeswoman Sloan Roach.

"We were aware that there was a shooting," Roach said. "We contacted police and asked if any of our schools needed to go in lockdown and we were told they didn't."

This is the second time in less than a month that police officers have been shot in Gwinnett County.

Two Gwinnett County police officers, Sgt. Michael P. McKeithan and Cpl. William M. Hoch, were wounded Jan. 3 while serving warrants at a house in Suwanee. Police said William "Bill" Caram, 37, barricaded himself inside the house and held off police for 14 hours before fatally shooting himself in an upstairs closet.

Both those officers are recovering from their wounds. The Jan. 3 shooting occurred about a mile from the Friday shooting.
 
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Quite a dilemma. The anti’s claim that cops are the only ones that should have guns. Since both parties involved are cops, who will the anti’s blame for this one????
 
They'll just pretend it never happened.
 
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The anti's can't touch these sort of cases. If they did all cops would just carry clubs and would be otherwise known as "Bobbies".:neener: Then all you will hear is "stop or I shall have to yell stop again!":D
 
The anti's can't touch these sort of cases. If they did all cops would just carry clubs and would be otherwise known as "Bobbies". Then all you will hear is "stop or I shall have to yell stop again!"

Naw, they'd just have to use their brains instead of muscling things until it goes the way they want.
 
Sounds like it's a good thing that uniform happened by when he did. He probably saved that woman's life.

Cops are human. They fly into rages and do stupid things too.

It seems fishy that there are no details yet as to what happened in the altercation and how it turned into a gunfight.

I'm sure reports will be filed and the story will become clear in its official form soon enough.
 
The anti’s claim that cops are the only ones that should have guns

This is where the logic of this statement fails to make sense.

Cops are the same genetic makeup as the rest of us. Subject to the same physiological and psychological problems.

Its amamzing how many people think that cops are bred from some other DNA strand that makes them superior to common everyday folk.

There I go. Trying to think with logic and reason. Sorry, its a flaw.:D
 
Cops are the same genetic makeup as the rest of us. Subject to the same physiological and psychological problems.

Not entirely true. At least in the case of members of bomb-squads. There was at least one study, if not more than one, that showed that their nervous system functions very differently from the average individual's. It makes them less affected by fear and pressure.

Not that it matters all that much for this thread, but I figured it was worth pointing out since it makes that statement technically incorrect.
 
That is probably through training, Fight Science did a few experiments on Special Forces and Navy SEALs and found that their training had changed their pysiological responses.

My question is why their identities were not released? My thoughts are that everyone who was arrested by the aggressive officer could file brutality complaints? But they have good reason if the man opened fire on another officer in a squadcar and in unifor, obviously he is crazy.

Why are two different agencies investigating? Can we waste any more taxpayer dollars?
 
Update - Police officers recovering after shootout; warrant issued

Still no clarity on why one guy started shooting.

Police officers recovering after shootout; warrant issued

By RHONDA COOK
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 02/02/08

Two police officers wounded in a shootout with each other continued to recover from non-life-threatening injuries in a Gwinnett County hospital Saturday while authorities tried to sort out the odd circumstances surrounding Friday's gunfight.

"I've seen people snap. I've seen incidents where people felt like their lives are passing them by," Don Woodruff, a spokesman for the Duluth Police Department, said Saturday. "But to see a police officer do this is just unreal."
Kimberly Smith/Staff

At about 1 p.m. Friday, authorities say, Fulton County police officer Paul Phillips, 37, was on his way home in suburban Sugar Hill. He was in uniform and driving a marked car. He stopped to help a woman who was leaning out of her parked car and yelling for help, according to Gwinnett police.

That's when police say a man in civilian clothes, later identified as Duluth police officer Jay Daily, 42, jumped out from behind the woman's car and began shooting at Phillips, hitting him once. Phillips returned fire, police said.

The unidentified woman who cried for help was arguing with Daily before Phillips pulled over, according to Kathy Santry, who witnessed the event. Santry said the driver's side window of the woman's car was shattered and the woman had blood on her hands.

An arrest warrant was issued for Daily, said Cpl. Illana Spellman, a spokeswoman for the Gwinnett Police Department, which is investigating the shooting. Daily is charged with aggravated assault on a law enforcement officer.

"We don't know the motivation for what [Daily] did," Spellman said Saturday.

Spellman said she did not know the name or the extent of the injuries of the woman seen arguing with Daily. Spellman said she had no weekend access to reports about the incident and hadn't talked to the lead detective assigned to the case.

Saturday, Gwinnett County sheriff's deputies were guarding Daily, a member of the Duluth force for five years, as he recovered at Gwinnett Medical Center. Daily is on paid suspension for now, according to Duluth Police Chief Randy Belcher.

"We're in just as much in shock as anyone," said Woodruff, the Duluth police spokesman. "I can't believe this. He was such a quiet, laid-back officer."
 
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