2008 Presidential Gun Rights Pledge

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NEWS RELEASE

SAF, CCRKBA ASK CANDIDATES TO SIGN 2008 PRESIDENTIAL GUN RIGHTS PLEDGE

BELLEVUE, WA – The Second Amendment Foundation and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms today are transmitting to each of the Republican and Democratic presidential candidates the “2008 Presidential Gun Rights Pledge.”

In a letter to the candidates, SAF founder Alan M. Gottlieb and CCRKBA Executive Director Mark A. Taff note, “It is not enough for a candidate for this nation’s highest political office to merely mouth ‘support’ for the Second Amendment. Whoever occupies the presidency must be someone who holds the Second Amendment to be as important to individual liberty as all the other tenets of our Bill of Rights.”

“We’re asking each of the candidates to sign this pledge and go on the record in stating that the Second Amendment affirms a fundamental, individual civil right,” Gottlieb said. “We’ve heard them all claim to support the Second Amendment, but an individual civil right should not be infringed, and 85 million American gun owners have a right to know whether people who want to be trusted with the nation’s highest office are firm believers in the concept of liberty and individual freedom.”

“Our Presidential Gun Rights Pledge,” Taff added, “gives each candidate a one-time-only opportunity to either unconditionally embrace the Second Amendment or reject it. There is no middle ground, no alternative position, and no second chance. We believe the candidates will have ample time to sign or reject this pledge by Friday, February 29.”

“It is time to cut through the rhetoric,” Gottlieb observed. “With a Supreme Court ruling on the Second Amendment due in June, every candidate has an obligation to tell American gun owners just where they stand on firearms civil rights. Gun owners deserve a definitive answer from the candidates so that they can make their own decisions on who best will respect and protect their rights.”

A sample pledge is available at

Sample Pledge
 
Not a bad idea but probably will be ignored. The SAF are good folks.

So, if McCain went for it and Hillary and Obama didn't - does fat boy, drug taking, Vigara invigorating Rushbo still want the latter to win the presidency?

Send him that question. Or maybe to Laura or Hannity? They would rather have tantrums about McCain and get us new gun bans to improve their ratings.
 
GEM is correct.
Clinton and Obama will simply ignore this proposition.
All the GOP guys will sign it but nothing will change.
Limbaugh and the other talking windbags will continue to bash McCain and Huckabee.
Its like they're on a suicide mission.Clinton and Obama are the mortal enemies of all right thinking people.
But talk radio conservatives seem to be oblivious of this fact.It can't be all about ratings.Or can it?
 
GEM is correct.
Clinton and Obama will simply ignore this proposition.
All the GOP guys will sign it but nothing will change.
Limbaugh and the other talking windbags will continue to bash McCain and Huckabee.
Its like they're on a suicide mission.Clinton and Obama are the mortal enemies of all right thinking people.
But talk radio conservatives seem to be oblivious of this fact.It can't be all about ratings.Or can it?
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Maybe the talk show hosts are somewhat like the RP absolutists. An all or nothing proposition.

Maybe part of the reason they distrust mcCain so much is McCain Feingold. These guys make a living from free speech and John McCain co-wrote a law that severely restricts it. Something akin to the way we instinctively distrust politicians who want to steal our firearms.

If you look at the whole scope of political issues, there is not as much difference between Huckabee, McCain, Clinton, and B. Hussein Obama in their political views as you might think.
 
The way I see it, there is very little difference between McCain, Clinton and Obama. With Romney now out, and Huckabee a distant third, I can't see how 2A rights will survive no matter who wins, and no matter what the Supreme Court does. I think we are screwed. I am now on the "time for a third party" bandwagon.
 
Maybe part of the reason they distrust mcCain so much is McCain Feingold.
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That is a good point.McCain-Feingold was and remains an abomination.
But as many things that there are about McCain that disturb me,the thought of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama in the WH along with a majority Dem Congress is even more disturbing.
At least if the RINO McCain is elected Prez, chances are good that at least the House will remain in GOP hands.In that scenario, our gun rights are in much better shape to battle the inevitable future gun control proposals the Donkey's will put on the table.
A Dem President and a Dem Congress looks like a Doomsday Machine.

http://www.conservative.org/archive2/2008potus.asp
 
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A Dem President and a Dem Congress looks like a Doomsday Machine.
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I am not so sure. It sounds that way but if it forces Republicans to actually be Republicans instead of faux Democrats, you just never know. Remember 1994? If Republicans had followed through on the promises made then, we would be in a far better world.
 
Remember 1994?
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Sometime you need to endure a Carter in order to earn a Reagan.

The GOP needs a lesson, the only question is whether or not their base is willing to send it. Either way, I think a dem pres and a GOP congress is the best shot at preserving our rights until the GOP wakes up.
 
The next set of bans WON'T have a sunset in them. Folks will learn from their mistakes. They will also ban the simple possession of an expanded list of items - all military derivative guns and hi-cap mags. So bury yours in PVC or go live on a mountain and wait for the 'revolution'.

If Rushbo wants us to commit RKBA suicide over McCain-Feingold then he should take some more Vigara and go ...
 
I would like all of the remaining Presidential candidates (D&R) to be asked, point blank, these two questions:

In light of the upcoming USSC case, Heller vs. Washington, D.C.,:

1. Do you believe that the city of Washington, D.C. has the power to ban handguns, used for home self defense, from its law abiding citizens?

2. Do believe that the city of Washington, D.C. can force the law abiding citizens to render all long guns unusuable for self defense, through strict storage laws?
 
It's always hard to dump out an incumbant president after their first term, though we've certainly seen that happen with Carter and Bush I.

So if Hillary or Obama, or both, are elected President, and/or VP, they will likely be gun shy (pun intended) of pushing a new assault weapons ban, which the Dems and lefty RINO's in congress already have set to go, in their first term. However, in their lame duck term, they'd be happier 'en a gopher in soft dirt to get a new assault weapons ban with no expiration date. They'd sign that so fast it'd make their head spin around 360 degrees, while spraying split pea soup from their mouths.
 
Obama -said the government needs to permanently reinstate an assault weapons ban and close regulatory loopholes that protect unscrupulous gun dealers.

Hillary- Assault weapons are back on the street. We've got to go and do what works again.

We're screwed if either of them win.
 
I don't seem to agree with the pledge ... if Congress passed a bill which said that every State had to recognize every other State's CCW permits or lose federal funding, I would prefer a POTUS that would veto it.
 
“I do believe in the constitutional right that everyone has — in the Second Amendment to the Constitution — to carry a weapon,” he said in response to a reporter’s question. “Obviously, we have to keep guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens
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John McCain

And Josh Suggarman cant stand him.
 
"...And Josh Suggarman cant stand him."

If that's true, then that might give me the courage to vote for McCain.

What's the source of McCain's statement? Given his track record with AGS, I don't trust him at all--the bare minimum we would get from him would be a "gun-show-loophole-closing" law shovelled at him by a Congress, even with Dems in the Senate and Repubs in the House running things.

Of course, contrast that with what leglisation will be brought forth if Hillary wins....

Jim H.
 
Even the Presidential Oath of Office has been reduced to essentially an empty exercise.
 
I am new to McCain, is any of the stuff about the second amendment on his web site true? I remember him being graded badly by 2nd Amendment sites in the past. I just want to know if it is even half true.

I have always respected McCain as a man and if half of this is true, then I might have to look at him again since the choice is him or the end of 2nd amendment as we know it.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/77636553-6337-4ecd-b170-49e1c07d2fbd.htm
 
Yokel, precisely. The Oath of Office should be the only "gun rights pledge" any president needs to take. Why would anyone expect them to abide by one promise and a piece of paper if they can't abide by the other? It's a childish idea.

-Sans Authoritas
 
I could understand all the radio show complaining if Rudy was in the process of winning the nomination. I never could believe that the former Mayor of NYC was running as a Republican. Nobody in OK would consider his policy positions to be those of a Republican. I said all along that if Rudy won the GOP nomination, I would vote a third party.

But that's not what happened. Mr. NYC went home after one primary. And it always amazed me that I was supposed to think the former Gov of Mass was the "true conservative." If he was so conservative, how did he get elected to be Gov of Mass in the first place? Always seemed like a con job to me. I'm sure he was considered conservative compared to Ted Kennedy but that's not saying much.

The ACU gave McCain an 84 conservative rating for his 24 years in the Senate. They gave Hillary a 9 and Obama an 8. (Senator Coburn got a 100 but he's not running!) I'm happy to see Mitt and Rudy gone. I actually voted for Huckabee in my primary. But if McCain is the candidate in November, it could be FAR worse!!

Gregg
 
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