Campus CCW Debate on O'Reilly Factor

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For any of you interested, they're gonna debate campus CCW after the NIU shootings. They haven't started yet so turn on Fox News or catch it again at 11:00 PM EST if you can't now.
 
Very happy with the Professor. Even Bill is surprising me. Marc Lamont is clueless, period.
 
Yeah seriously. The anti was spouting the same anti-CCW crap that we hear all the time. And I was VERY surprised by how pro-ccw O'Reilly seemed.
 
Yup. Bill was very pro-gun. I was shocked, still am. Maybe our message is sinking in.
 
School carry

Noted that B.O. mentioned that Utah is only state allowing CCP holders to carry on campus. Good on him!!
 
saw the factor tonite

i had the same conclusion the rest of you did about bill seeming to support ccw on campuses..... i was wondering what would said on THE O'REILLY FACTOR about the tragedy....
 
It won't be on the website until tomorrow. You can see it again tonite at 11.
 
just an observation.....

most of the students (not all, but most) were 20 years old....and wouldn't turn 21 untill well into their junior year.

as for the professors.....

good luck.
 
How about the issue of illegal concealed carry from otherwise law abiding students? There's no way to argue for that, but it would definitely work...
 
O'Reilly really changed his tune about guns after seeing what happened in NO after Katrina - he feels guns are needed now. I missed it at 5pm but I'll check it out at 8pm!
 
as for the professors.....

good luck.

All college professors are not the same. Neither are all veterans, all law enforcement officers, all criminals, all men, all women, or all gun owners.
 
O'Reilly's been called a populist (and of course almost anyone who competes for ratings better be one or his/her show will fail) but he changed his mind about gun ownership after Katrina. His new mantra is something like "You better have a gun and know how to use it because you're on your own when bad things happen". I find his willingness to review his position and change his mind when presented with new information refreshing.
 
I find his willingness to review his position and change his mind when presented with new information refreshing.

Yeah, too bad the single-issue abortion voters didn't give Romney similar forgiving treatment.

And too bad Romney didn't change his mind enough to commit himself to denouncing the AW "ban" as useless [strikeout]pablum[strikeout/] crap.

I don't feel like insulting the baby food.

I don't trust any of the "three" to respect my freedoms.

A certain editor at BYU's Daily Universe named John Smith, IIRC, denounced the local campus cops carrying concealed and undercover at [gasp!] classes with a cleverly headlined editorial about Chief Kelshaw's Cops Carrying Carbines in Class (or on Campus). This was such a BAD thing, you know.

Wonder what his song is now.

My friends and I formed a shooting club then or the next year or whenever. Our safety procedures were codified in general in the club constitution or whatever we called it. I wrote the thing, as well as the bylaws. One sentence that I expected to be challenged on went through without a hitch. It stated the only exception to our cold range procedures was holstered sidearm worn by the range safety officer(s).

Knowing way back in '82 or '83 what the stresses of youth/college/love life/family dynamics/roommates/jobs and whatever could do to people, there was no way I was going to take a chance on someone popping their cork and shooting up the whole firing line. My most trusted officers took that responsibility quite seriously.
 
The only thing that bothered me about the O'Reilly debate was the fact that no one challenged the anti when he said "just because you have a CCW doesn't make you responsible".:fire::barf: We really need to put some statistics out there that show CCW holders are far more law abiding than the general public. It ticks me off when no one challenges this garbage. One more thing, criminals don't get concealed carry permits, idiot.:rolleyes:
 
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