Are you guys as confused about the mass of rifle ammunition types out there as I?

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17poundr, point of English, it's "icy wastes," not "icy waists," in your location. "Waist" is the area of our body below your stomach, upper hips, and lower back, and above your abdomen, lower hips, and buttocks. Traditionally, it's the part of the body around which a belt is passed in order to keep pants up.

Maybe he really meant ice waists...

In any case, good thread. The real funny thing is that I read the whole first post...whew. My only long gun is a 94-32 in 32 w.s. It's a lever gun. I'd like to get a BAR in 30-06 as well. After that...well, who knows. Maybe a .300 or something. Maybe that's why I shoot pistols more - less choices on the major ammo sizes. Simple is sometimes better.
 
17poundr, you can always try www.loaddata.com. It's a reloading site. They hide the powder charges if you aren't a member, but they do have drawings of a lot of different cartridges.
 
.223 Remington and the 5.56 NATO

From what I understand; you can fire a .223 Remington from a 5.56 NATO chamber, but NOT a 5.56 NATO from a .223 Remington chamber.

I found this article that has a brief summary of one of the many type of same yet different rounds.
 
Being over age 50 I have a "reason" to stay confused.

Ammunition is akin to soup, I was fine when I was younger and the soup selection was simpler.
I get bigger and more soup and ctgs come to be.

No wonder guys can't get the correct soup when sent to the grocery store...
We are looking for .327, or .204 and we were supposed to get Beef Consommé.

Send me for Chicken Noodle and .22 lr and I can handle that...most times.
*wink*
 
Thanks for www.loaddata.com and the article!!!

Most interesting, and I guess I dont need a book, I do have a 'firearms shopping guide 2006, and in the end it has lot's of pages of charts, with all kinds of cross referrence stuff with guns, and ammo... It's that slightly confusing mass of grids, that put the fear of calibers into me!

Seriously though, I think you guys probably know this already, but the 'find your perfect load', machine on the guns and ammo magazine web site, is simple, user friendly and gives you the 'best average answer'. Still, I usually have played arround (and fantasized 'sound worrying doesnt it') :rolleyes:about handgun loads...

My last serious fantasy gun is the AR-30 semi auto 338lapua!

Anybody know, if those other 338s, fire the same slug as the 338 lapua, but with different casings, or are they also slightly different bullets too?

I know that the 338lapua, is not even so popular with the elk hunters in Finland (even though it was originally designed for this pretty large animal, but as most of the organized hunts take the shooter into a pretty good vantage point, meaning he is relatively close, sometimes very close, then the good old 308cal is always the most preferred rifle, as the 338lapua will go just though fast, even the ones made to 'mushroom', it's just so fast from say 300m... Or so they claim...

But, the Lapua338 has found a new leace on life in safaris, and ofcourse in military sniper rifles, where something heavier than the 308, but not as hugely powerful (or large and heavy to carry, weapon), is wanted and the lapua338 rifles are filling in this spot, the ERMA started the trend I belive, but now there are many...

The AR-30 (also available in Win300), is a semi auto, with a free floating barrel, for things like intimidating large game, or for heavy middle weight sniper work. And all that comes from Armalite, a firm I do not take lightly... :)

Wouldnt mind their AR-24 semi auto 9mm, all metal hand gun either, infact...
 
Saint Urho

While living at Duluth, Minnesota in the late '70s, local folks of Finnish families taught me about Saint Urho. The story goes that Urho drove all of the grasshoppers out of Finland, saving some crop or other. This saved the people from starvation, hence Urho's canonization.

Saint Urho's day is 17 March.:scrutiny:

There might be a few Irishmen somewhere on this planet who would disagree but they never win the argument in Duluth or Minnesota's Iron Range towns.:D
 
Well, Urho is as Finnish a name as it get's, defenately not from latin, or any other languege from the indo-european language family. (Finnish along with old Estonian, and many argue Bask, are the only languages in Europe that are not members of the Indo-European languages).
 
Well, for what it's worth, I shoot a lot of Lapua brass...

And everything is different because it CAN be different. If you have a better idea, have a reamer made, and then the brass is generally fairly easy.
 
Thanks a bunch pounder17

now I'm even more confused...sigh....
I will probably be to old to enjoy shooting before I figure out how to answer your OP.
 
Hey, have you guys ever seen the guns and ammo magazines websites 'right load selector', and it has all the calibers in the selection!!!


Here check it out: http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ballistics/

Just go to the centerfire arrow, and 'voila'! All these calibers and mm's, come a listed, and you can see which kind of gun, likes which kind of load... Good for a free service eh?

Ofcourse I kind of 'windowshop', and dream that one day, I would have my long gun and a nice plinking gun, and a good handgun.... But, living here, it's getting hard... Especially after that looney kid went to his school and killed seven and wounded more with a Sig Mosquito .22... The monster:barf:
 
.223 is commercial ammo
5.56x45mm is military ammo laoded with higher pressure.

basically the same stuff though...because most firearms today are made with 5.56mm chamber demensions.

and .25auto is 6.35mm

this is a common mistake but theyre called magazines, not clips:banghead:

just my 2 cents...
 
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