Lucky
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Anyone have current status? I've heard open is fine, but wonder how it's received. Also how is the reciprocity legislation coming? If you guys could get that wrapped up before June I'd be appreciative
Current carry situation in Las Vegas and Nevada?
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Winchester 73
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See these sites:
http://www.handgunlaw.us
http://www.usacarry.com
http://www.opencarry.org
Open carry is common in NV.
NV now has reciprocity with 16 states.Hopefully more on the way shortly.
http://www.handgunlaw.us
http://www.usacarry.com
http://www.opencarry.org
Open carry is common in NV.
NV now has reciprocity with 16 states.Hopefully more on the way shortly.
Quiet
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NV only honors CCW permits from these states.
Alaska
Arkansas
Florida
Kansas
Louisiana
Missouri
Nebraska
Tennessee
Utah
Open carry is legal.
It's recommend that you don't open carry where all the tourists (ie. on the strip in Vegas) are because it upsets them, which in turn upsets the casinos and LE.
Alaska
Arkansas
Florida
Kansas
Louisiana
Missouri
Nebraska
Tennessee
Utah
Open carry is legal.
It's recommend that you don't open carry where all the tourists (ie. on the strip in Vegas) are because it upsets them, which in turn upsets the casinos and LE.
Winchester 73
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gunsmith
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I never see open carry
I tried it. Nothing happened.
I barely conceal though, most just assume I'm a cop.
I have also opened carried in rural areas and have been the only one that I've noticed.
Real Nevadans tend to mind their own biz, if they didn't like it they probably would leave but keep their opinions to themselves.
I have only been to LV once so I can't speak for that place.
I tried it. Nothing happened.
I barely conceal though, most just assume I'm a cop.
I have also opened carried in rural areas and have been the only one that I've noticed.
Real Nevadans tend to mind their own biz, if they didn't like it they probably would leave but keep their opinions to themselves.
I have only been to LV once so I can't speak for that place.
WoofersInc
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If you open carry in Vegas plan on meeting several of Metro's finest. Not illegal but you will be stopped and talked to. As a side note I was informed when I re-certified my CCW that once you have a carry permit here in Clark County you are no longer allowed to open carry. Not sure if it applies to out of state permits also.
I will only open carry in the more rural areas of the state.
I will only open carry in the more rural areas of the state.
If you open carry in the urban areas of Clark County and some ninny calls the police to report, "There's a man with a gun!", it is the policy of the Metropolitan Police to respond with lights and sirens. Don't blame Metro, they must take every such call seriously.
Unfortunately, it is also the policy of the Clark County District Attorney to consider filing charges of public endangerment against YOU when you make Metro respond with lights and sirens because you're carrying a gun and scaring ninnies.
Don't blame the ninny, it wasn't her choice to be the way she is. It is your responsibility to make safe, smart and responsible choices. Oh, I suppose you can take the low road and blame the ninny. That road won't get you anywhere, will it?
Unfortunately, it is also the policy of the Clark County District Attorney to consider filing charges of public endangerment against YOU when you make Metro respond with lights and sirens because you're carrying a gun and scaring ninnies.
Don't blame the ninny, it wasn't her choice to be the way she is. It is your responsibility to make safe, smart and responsible choices. Oh, I suppose you can take the low road and blame the ninny. That road won't get you anywhere, will it?
Gray Peterson
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There are so many falsehoods in this thread
Geez, where do I start:
This is absolutely horse crap (to whoever told you that, not you personally, you're just repeating what you've been told). Las Vegas doesn't have the ability to change state law. LV didn't pass any ordinance open carry, just concealed carry, because their law was preempted in 1989 from passing further ordinances.
Furthermore, SB92, as passed, now eliminates ALL local gun laws with the exception of the Clark County Registration Ordinance, which now by operation of law, only applies to non-residents of the County after 60 days of being there.
That is also a load of horse crap. They can "consider" all they want, however the facts are facts: If there was a charge of public endangerment against an open carrier for open carry, most of us in that particular community would have heard about it by now.
Ants, I want you to prove to me that the Clark County DA's office has ever filed public endangerment cases against an open carrier. I want case numbers. Can't find any? Figures because this is the exact same kind of crap that's stated about open carry in the Northwest (WA and OR). Fearmongering BS.
To answer the question of what the laws are for visiting Las Vegas: Open carry is legal statewide. Nevada has a reciprocity law that recognizes the licenses of two "mail in license" states, Florida and Nevada. Private property rules still apply, if you're going to carry in a casino, carry it well concealed unless you're specifically told it's ok. Otherwise, just being a tourist, open carry is generally OK.
Geez, where do I start:
This is absolutely horse crap (to whoever told you that, not you personally, you're just repeating what you've been told). Las Vegas doesn't have the ability to change state law. LV didn't pass any ordinance open carry, just concealed carry, because their law was preempted in 1989 from passing further ordinances.
Furthermore, SB92, as passed, now eliminates ALL local gun laws with the exception of the Clark County Registration Ordinance, which now by operation of law, only applies to non-residents of the County after 60 days of being there.
That is also a load of horse crap. They can "consider" all they want, however the facts are facts: If there was a charge of public endangerment against an open carrier for open carry, most of us in that particular community would have heard about it by now.
Ants, I want you to prove to me that the Clark County DA's office has ever filed public endangerment cases against an open carrier. I want case numbers. Can't find any? Figures because this is the exact same kind of crap that's stated about open carry in the Northwest (WA and OR). Fearmongering BS.
To answer the question of what the laws are for visiting Las Vegas: Open carry is legal statewide. Nevada has a reciprocity law that recognizes the licenses of two "mail in license" states, Florida and Nevada. Private property rules still apply, if you're going to carry in a casino, carry it well concealed unless you're specifically told it's ok. Otherwise, just being a tourist, open carry is generally OK.
WheelGunMom
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If you open carry on the Las Vegas Strip, or in the suburbs of Green Valley or Summerlin, you will not go unnoticed and you do risk the very high likelihood of a personal conversation with a Metro or Henderson PD officer. It’s your choice as to whether open carry in these areas is worth it.
It would be nice to be able to politely hand over a copy of the NV law allowing open carry in the state, but there is nothing in NRS (Nevada Revised Statutes) Chapter 202 (or elsewhere in the NRS that I know of) that specifically authorizes (or refers to the exact term) “open carry.” However, it appears there is nothing in our state law or in the Clark County Code that specifically prohibits it either.
Quiet cited the correct list of out-of-state CCWs now recognized in Nevada. These went into effect on 10/1/07. More states can be added in the future if they meet the criteria (verifiable CCW database that can be accessed by NV law enforcement, and CCW issuance criteria that is equal to or stricter than what NV has). The new law was not designed for “true” reciprocity in that the criteria does not command that the state recognize NV’s permit.
Clark County handgun registration currently still exists, unfortunately, but in a modified form effective 1/1/08. According to section 12.04.200 of the Clark County Code, “It is unlawful for any person with at least sixty days of residency in the county to own or have in his possession, within the unincorporated area of Clark County, a pistol or other firearm capable of being concealed, unless the same has first been registered with the sheriff or with a police department of any of the incorporated cities of Clark County.” (Ord. 3571 § 4, 2007: Ord. 242 § 20, 1965) You can access the full Clark County code applicable to firearms at http://www.ordlink.com/codes/clarknv/_DATA/TITLE12/Chapter_12_04_FIREARMS_AND_AIR_GUN/index.html)
Lucky, if you do open carry in Las Vegas, please report back as to where you carried and what happened, if anything. I'm sure the Las Vegas High Roaders would be very interested to hear about your experience.
It would be nice to be able to politely hand over a copy of the NV law allowing open carry in the state, but there is nothing in NRS (Nevada Revised Statutes) Chapter 202 (or elsewhere in the NRS that I know of) that specifically authorizes (or refers to the exact term) “open carry.” However, it appears there is nothing in our state law or in the Clark County Code that specifically prohibits it either.
Quiet cited the correct list of out-of-state CCWs now recognized in Nevada. These went into effect on 10/1/07. More states can be added in the future if they meet the criteria (verifiable CCW database that can be accessed by NV law enforcement, and CCW issuance criteria that is equal to or stricter than what NV has). The new law was not designed for “true” reciprocity in that the criteria does not command that the state recognize NV’s permit.
Clark County handgun registration currently still exists, unfortunately, but in a modified form effective 1/1/08. According to section 12.04.200 of the Clark County Code, “It is unlawful for any person with at least sixty days of residency in the county to own or have in his possession, within the unincorporated area of Clark County, a pistol or other firearm capable of being concealed, unless the same has first been registered with the sheriff or with a police department of any of the incorporated cities of Clark County.” (Ord. 3571 § 4, 2007: Ord. 242 § 20, 1965) You can access the full Clark County code applicable to firearms at http://www.ordlink.com/codes/clarknv/_DATA/TITLE12/Chapter_12_04_FIREARMS_AND_AIR_GUN/index.html)
Lucky, if you do open carry in Las Vegas, please report back as to where you carried and what happened, if anything. I'm sure the Las Vegas High Roaders would be very interested to hear about your experience.
Gray Peterson
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It's not personal conversation I'm concerned about. Just harassment, threatening, and intimidation. Open carriers generally know that that's always a possibility.
That's because as you well know, as a general rule, criminal law only serves to prohibit actions as crimes, not specifically to allow certain actions. Most state laws have issue with concealed carry, as those laws were created due to the belief that only scoundrels would concealed carry, and that open carry was the honorable way to do so.
lvcat2004
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I have never seen an open carrier on the Strip or any of the touristy places. Since LV was one of Al Qaida's intended targets, metro PD is pretty sensitive about things like that, so I would NOT recommend open carrying in touristy places, and I hope most Las Vegans agree that touristy places are generally VERY safe.
I have heard from a couple of people that North Las Vegas PD is somewhat stickler about carrying a handgun in the vehicle. They don't want to see it on the passenger seat or on the center console. If you got a CCW, they want it ON you, not next to you, and I've talked to a couple of people that got into little trouble for not doing so.
I have heard from a couple of people that North Las Vegas PD is somewhat stickler about carrying a handgun in the vehicle. They don't want to see it on the passenger seat or on the center console. If you got a CCW, they want it ON you, not next to you, and I've talked to a couple of people that got into little trouble for not doing so.
Gray Peterson
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Yes, because members of Al-Qaida would obviously draw a bunch of attention to themselves by open carrying.
lvcat2004
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If you can't make intelligent comments then please don't. People understand what I meant.
thexrayboy
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Nevada law is for the most part user friendly. With the exception of schools, courthouses and any public building that is posted as no carry and has controlled entry i.e. metal detectors you can legally carry anywhere ( except fed gov property as in mil bases and fed buildings). Open carry is 100% legal anywhere concealed carry is. In 90% of the state you will not be given a second look by most people. On rare occasions some blissninny newly arrived from Kommifornia or some other liberal enclave will see someone open carrying and call 911. The local officers will respond to the call, they will excercise due caution i.e. you will be greeted by more than one of them, and they will inquire as to who you are and what you are doing. You will reply with an honest answer and ID if requested ( don't forget Hiibler vs Nevada). You will then be allowed to go on your way. In tourist thick Las Vegas Metro will likely recieve several calls about you.
They will have no reason to arrest you unless you give them one.
If you wish to enjoy your visit to Vegas with out frequent interruptions by Metro carry concealed. DO NOT enter a casino while open carrying. Most casinos use the don't ask don't tell approach to CCW...they won't ask, you don't tell and everyone has a nice time. If you make the presence of your weapon known you had better have LEO ID on you or the chances of being escorted off the property are fairly high.
Nevada state law preempts local and city laws regarding firearms with only two exception. The onerous registration requirement for Clark county residents is still in force and laws governing discharge of firearms inside city/corporate limits are allowed. Any other law that is contrary to state law governing the possession and carrying of arms is not valid. N. Las Vegas, Boulder City etc. have had separate laws on the books in the past. Occasionally some misguided officer may
still seek to use those laws. A simple reminder that state law preempts local law and that as a citizen you know the law( and make sure you have read the NRS codes governing firearms) and the officer will probably desist in annoying you.
Most LEO in Nevada are regular joes, good guys and pleasant to know. I have met a few transplants from other agencies....California etc. who were large adam henry's. Thankfully they are few and far between. When dealing with LEO in Nevada be polite, be honest and avoid trouble. The boys in khaki here do not go out of their way to lock up people for no good reason, we get enough bonehead tourists getting in trouble to give them enough work already. "Come on vacation, go home on probation" has real meaning here. And most of those cases are alcohol/drug related.
They will have no reason to arrest you unless you give them one.
If you wish to enjoy your visit to Vegas with out frequent interruptions by Metro carry concealed. DO NOT enter a casino while open carrying. Most casinos use the don't ask don't tell approach to CCW...they won't ask, you don't tell and everyone has a nice time. If you make the presence of your weapon known you had better have LEO ID on you or the chances of being escorted off the property are fairly high.
Nevada state law preempts local and city laws regarding firearms with only two exception. The onerous registration requirement for Clark county residents is still in force and laws governing discharge of firearms inside city/corporate limits are allowed. Any other law that is contrary to state law governing the possession and carrying of arms is not valid. N. Las Vegas, Boulder City etc. have had separate laws on the books in the past. Occasionally some misguided officer may
still seek to use those laws. A simple reminder that state law preempts local law and that as a citizen you know the law( and make sure you have read the NRS codes governing firearms) and the officer will probably desist in annoying you.
Most LEO in Nevada are regular joes, good guys and pleasant to know. I have met a few transplants from other agencies....California etc. who were large adam henry's. Thankfully they are few and far between. When dealing with LEO in Nevada be polite, be honest and avoid trouble. The boys in khaki here do not go out of their way to lock up people for no good reason, we get enough bonehead tourists getting in trouble to give them enough work already. "Come on vacation, go home on probation" has real meaning here. And most of those cases are alcohol/drug related.
Valkman
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Good point Xray - do not even think about open carry in a casino as they'll ask you to leave or possibly to give them the gun to hold.
No law prohibits OC so it's legal but where you go is everything. Here in Pahrump, no problem. We can even OC into the library and post office as guys here have pushed OC everywhere almost to the brink of gunfights with Deputy Sheriffs so the DA relented. Do not try this in Vegas!
On some other board there's a guy in Henderson that OC's all the time with no apparent problems, so good luck!
No law prohibits OC so it's legal but where you go is everything. Here in Pahrump, no problem. We can even OC into the library and post office as guys here have pushed OC everywhere almost to the brink of gunfights with Deputy Sheriffs so the DA relented. Do not try this in Vegas!
On some other board there's a guy in Henderson that OC's all the time with no apparent problems, so good luck!
Ivy Mike
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Nevada has some of the loosest gun laws in the entire nation with the exception of Vermont and Alaska.
Open carry is 100% legal
concealed weapons are allowed with permit
Class 3 firearms are readily available if you've got the coin
you can carry in places serving and selling alcohol unless posted (but don't you dare get caught carrying while drunk)
NV has finally passed reciprocity legislation with a few other states and a requirement that the list be updated every couple years.
I see the occasional person carry openly but its pretty rare in Las Vegas. I myself have done it but only once or twice.
You can carry a gun loaded and concealed in the passenger compartment of a vehicle without a CCW (or leave it on the seat next to you if you want) and you can carry loaded long guns while hunting although there are ammo capacity restrictions depending on what game you're after.
Open carry is 100% legal
concealed weapons are allowed with permit
Class 3 firearms are readily available if you've got the coin
you can carry in places serving and selling alcohol unless posted (but don't you dare get caught carrying while drunk)
NV has finally passed reciprocity legislation with a few other states and a requirement that the list be updated every couple years.
I see the occasional person carry openly but its pretty rare in Las Vegas. I myself have done it but only once or twice.
You can carry a gun loaded and concealed in the passenger compartment of a vehicle without a CCW (or leave it on the seat next to you if you want) and you can carry loaded long guns while hunting although there are ammo capacity restrictions depending on what game you're after.
Gray Peterson
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What I'm bristling at is the fact that some would make such a comparison. It wasn't an attack on you, it was an attack on the idea that open carriers=terrorists.
lvcat2004
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Well, I think we all know that the general public is largely ignorant about firearms, especially when it comes to CCW, open carry,etc., and I understand your point but it just sounded like a rude response to my comment, need to put one of these behind your post
My point, as a resident of Las Vegas, is that since our reputation of safety especially around the strip is very imporant to our tourist economy, and given that this place was one of the Jihadist targets, and that casino is very sensitive about security from robbers and such as well---notification to metro PD or casino securiy will be responded very quickly and even if legal, open carry around the strip would be a bad idea IMHO.
I don't know about the legality of this, but I doubt that casino security would allow open carry on the casino floor and chances are that you would be escorted out. CCW-yes, I do it all the time.
Conclusion: open carry on the strip...legal but not a good idea. Unless you are not going to go into the casinos, and don't mind potentially being questioned and harassed by metro PD at every block.
Lonnie Said "recognizes the licenses of two "mail in license" states, Florida and Nevada"
I am assuming you meant to say Utah as the second mail in state and not Nevada? I can always be wrong but I wasn't aware that Nevada has a mail in Non Resident permit.
Not trying to be an "SA" just trying to clarify.
george
I am assuming you meant to say Utah as the second mail in state and not Nevada? I can always be wrong but I wasn't aware that Nevada has a mail in Non Resident permit.
Not trying to be an "SA" just trying to clarify.
george
Yes, George.
The Nevada Attorney General has a person on staff with expertise on all the state AND local firearms laws in Nevada. Rather than a Forum like this, where one can solicit many interesting and well-considered opinions and ideas, one seeking more exact information might contact the office of the Attorney General. Of course, I understand that some persons do not trust government and don't wish to obtain information from a government source, and I certainly don't expect those persons to follow this advice. But the resource is available if one wishes to consult it.
The last Legislature proposed changes in certain state firearms laws. Some legislation was passed, some was not. New and modified laws took effect this year. It pays to get the latest information.
The Nevada Attorney General has a person on staff with expertise on all the state AND local firearms laws in Nevada. Rather than a Forum like this, where one can solicit many interesting and well-considered opinions and ideas, one seeking more exact information might contact the office of the Attorney General. Of course, I understand that some persons do not trust government and don't wish to obtain information from a government source, and I certainly don't expect those persons to follow this advice. But the resource is available if one wishes to consult it.
The last Legislature proposed changes in certain state firearms laws. Some legislation was passed, some was not. New and modified laws took effect this year. It pays to get the latest information.
WheelGunMom
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ants,
I agree that it pays to get the latest information. So whom exactly at the A.G.'s office should be contacted? Are they located north or south?
I agree that it pays to get the latest information. So whom exactly at the A.G.'s office should be contacted? Are they located north or south?
Prince Yamato
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I see this more as a first amendment issue than a second amendment issue. You are legal to do both, but OC will get you harassed. Well, guess what folks, the casinos probably don't want you to OC. In fact, they'll probably at best, ask you to cover it up and at worst escort you out.
Remember that LV is a tourist destination for people from all over the world and I'm sure that the casinos are sensitive to that. That don't want you to alarm the casual Japanese tourists any more than they want you to appear as a threat to some paranoid Arab prince. So for the sake of keeping it peaceful, cover up your gun in the casinos.
Remember that LV is a tourist destination for people from all over the world and I'm sure that the casinos are sensitive to that. That don't want you to alarm the casual Japanese tourists any more than they want you to appear as a threat to some paranoid Arab prince. So for the sake of keeping it peaceful, cover up your gun in the casinos.
Ants - I was responding to what Lonnie said here "To answer the question of what the laws are for visiting Las Vegas: Open carry is legal statewide. Nevada has a reciprocity law that recognizes the licenses of two "mail in license" states, Florida and Nevada."
The sentence states that Nevada has "reciprocity" ... with "two mail in license states". As I don't believe Nevada has reciprocity with itself, I believe that Lonnie meant to say Utah, as Nevada does have reciprocity with Utah and Utah is a "mail in license" state. I will admit however that I was wrong on the non resident issue as it pertains to Nevada.
WheelGunMom - I looked through the AG's site and found no information, the Department in charge now appears to be the Department of Public Safety (http://dps.nv.gov/) where I found the reciprocity list at this location - http://nvrepository.state.nv.us/Special/CCW_CHANGE.shtml which states
"In accordance with Senate Bill 237 passed by the 2007 Nevada Legislature the State of Nevada will recognize the following States' CCW permit holders:
Alaska
Arkansas
Florida (added January 3, 2008)
Kansas
Louisiana
Missouri
Nebraska
Tennessee
Utah
This law allows holders of valid permits from these states to carry a concealed weapon while in the State of Nevada. The permit must be in the possession of the issuee at all times while carrying a firearm. "
I am now so far away from the OP's original question, this will be my last post.
George
The sentence states that Nevada has "reciprocity" ... with "two mail in license states". As I don't believe Nevada has reciprocity with itself, I believe that Lonnie meant to say Utah, as Nevada does have reciprocity with Utah and Utah is a "mail in license" state. I will admit however that I was wrong on the non resident issue as it pertains to Nevada.
WheelGunMom - I looked through the AG's site and found no information, the Department in charge now appears to be the Department of Public Safety (http://dps.nv.gov/) where I found the reciprocity list at this location - http://nvrepository.state.nv.us/Special/CCW_CHANGE.shtml which states
"In accordance with Senate Bill 237 passed by the 2007 Nevada Legislature the State of Nevada will recognize the following States' CCW permit holders:
Alaska
Arkansas
Florida (added January 3, 2008)
Kansas
Louisiana
Missouri
Nebraska
Tennessee
Utah
This law allows holders of valid permits from these states to carry a concealed weapon while in the State of Nevada. The permit must be in the possession of the issuee at all times while carrying a firearm. "
I am now so far away from the OP's original question, this will be my last post.
George
Buck Nekkid
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Contrary to several posters here, S.B. 92 did NOT do away with the onerous ordinances found in Clark County regarding firearms. It may look like it, if one reads the bill as enrolled, but please read the posts on my blog: Section 11
Back in late January and early February I contacted every City Attorney for the various municipalities that have restrictive firearms ordinances: North Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Henderson, and Boulder City. Each of the responses that I received from them as well as the Clark County Attorney stated that the only thing that SB 92 did was change the time limits for registration of concealable firearms.
The only way the provisions of SB 92 are going to be recognized is if there is a test case that goes before the courts. Otherwise it's business as usual in Clark Couty
Back in late January and early February I contacted every City Attorney for the various municipalities that have restrictive firearms ordinances: North Las Vegas, Las Vegas, Henderson, and Boulder City. Each of the responses that I received from them as well as the Clark County Attorney stated that the only thing that SB 92 did was change the time limits for registration of concealable firearms.
The only way the provisions of SB 92 are going to be recognized is if there is a test case that goes before the courts. Otherwise it's business as usual in Clark Couty
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