"Unusual footage caught on stealthcam"

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Yet, where is definitive proof of Bigfoot? It simply doesn't exist, except in our imaginations. To me, that video was clearly a person, and the author of the video never claimed anything to the contrary.

Go back and read my post #3. They've got it. The researchers aren't just Bucky and Bubba from the mountains. They've got hair samples and DNA

When all creatures go extinct, I'm pretty sure you don't go from millions to zero overnight. There always has to be the last, final few.
 
Go back and read my post #3. They've got it. The researchers aren't just Bucky and Bubba from the mountains. They've got hair samples and DNA

Post #3 isn't exactly all that definitive as to who these great scientists were, what lab it was, etc.

Let me help you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5-MvyERko

The program to which you referred was Monster Quest. Let's see, the blood samples sat out, exposed, for 2 years. This was discussed in this segment starting at about 1:35 onwoard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_2JiMG6i4w&feature=related where the guys talk about the sample being so degraded that they can't even see it visually! Notice that Nelson is involved in the process. When first tested by an independent lab, the samples were negative. Then, when faced with results Nelson didn't like, he did his own testing and somehow countered the neutralizing effect of the galvanized metal (screws).

Sorry, don't buy it. If the guy had the ability to do the tests to start with, then why did he send out the samples instead of doing the test himself initially? Since he did the work himself, the notion of independent testing is right out the window. His results were not verified by an independent lab.

Unrecognized DNA does not prove Bigfoot. It proves unrecognized DNA. There is no direct evidence of how the samples got on the board and screws in question.

The hair samples are equally dubious. The rounded, uncut tip doesn't mean a thing except that the tip is rounded. Big deal. So then you are left with the medullary cavity. See starting about 1:35 again here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5-MvyERko and then the pic of the medullary cavity at 1:42. He claims it isn't bear, but that it looks human to him. Interestingly, the image shown is very carnivore-looking when compared to images in "Identification of the Dorsal Guard Hairs of Some Mammals of Wyoming." Of course, that is just for guard hairs and does not include any of the other varieties of hair found on non-humans. Depending on the source or breakdown, humans are usually described with at least 6 different types of hair (head, face, body, limb, pubic, fringe) but with some variations or additional categories as well such as nasal, aural, etc. They are not uniform, nor are the different types of hairs uniform necessarily on other animals.

You forgot to mention in the show how the researchers such up various game cameras around the cabin in case they came under attack from a rock throwing bigfoot...and how they came under attack from rocks being hurled at them at night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuv_dBfMGUM&feature=PlayList&p=4499CEAEA405E46F&index=3. You forgot to mention that it was amazing how the alledged bigfoot seemed to be able to know where all the game cameras were placed and was able to avoid being spotting on any of them, including the infrared and thermal. It was almost like he wasn't even there, like he was....imaginary.
 
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I saw the Monster Quest special as well. It gave me a good workout yelling at my TV. I hate shows like this where it's so blatantly obvious that the "researchers" know what results they want and will do anything to arrive at those results. If the evidence was as concrete as they said it was, you would've read about it on the front page of the newspaper and not watched it as a special on the Disc Channel.

My favorite was the foot print they drew on the mat of screws. How convenient.
 
Simply put, how would a 400lb man-monkey conceal itself completely from civilization for over half a century? Sure, a few people have put up videos of the alleged creature, but no one has EVER produced a bone, body, live specim, or even a quality video of the beast.

It's not hard to fathom actually. I've spent the better part of my life in the woods of Pennsylvania and Florida. I'm going to assume that there are way more deer, squirrel, birds and other various mammals than there are bigfoot and I've only ever come across the skeleton of an animal once.

Once. In the many miles of Pennsylvania forest and Florida swamp in 33 years I've only ever come across one.

When things die in the wild they are scavanged instantly. Bears, birds, mice, insects can devour a carcass to the point of disappearance in a couple of days, sometimes less.

I'm not saying they do or don't exist. I'm simply saying that it's plausible that if they do exist, why you haven't found a skeleton.

Now, as for quality video or pictures of the beast, that is an easy one.

Bigfoot is blurry.
 
It was Elvis :D:D:D

Just a hunter trespassing where he didn't belong. Don't know why they made such a fuss about it, unless he thinks hunters caught on stealth cams are "unusual".

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Looks like a man to me and thought bigfoot was tall this thing didn't look that tall to me
 
XDKingslayer, you've been out in the wild regularly for years, and only seen 1 skeleton? Ever? You do look DOWN once in a while, don't you?

Maybe I'm unusual, but I spot skeletons all the time. Usually they have been worked over by scavengers, so you'll find pieces scattered around a bit, but we make a game out of finding enough pieces to identify the species. Squirrel and rabbit are hard to find, because their bones can be chewed whole by medium sized scavengers, but you'll almost always find enough to identify cattle from deer from elk from bear from coyote. I'm pretty sure we'd have noticed a primate if we came across one.

Well, that's not true. We did find one primate once, but we were pretty sure we could identify the species. After a quick call to the state police, the crime scene was secured and we went on our way. The things you find when you're out and about in the wild. . . . .
 
I've bumped about in the woods for a few years myself, but my experience is very different I've regularly found skeletons in the wild.

Minks, deer, birds, bear remains... I even have a nifty sea otter skull (lower mandibles still attached) I picked off the beach and I've hiked to a beached, long dead and stinky minke whale that bears had been working on for a few months.

A few squid bodies too.

I might not be operating in the right area though for big foot, but corpses are certainly a plenty.
 
I don't know what y'all did last week, but I put in time in the NW, looking for bigfoot. My travels took me from Vancouver, BC to Mt. Shasta and Tahoe in CA. I even made a special trip to see an honest to gosh bigfoot trap there in SW Oregon near Lake Applegate (Ruch being the closest town). The trap was installed in 1974. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigfoot_trap

It had a drop gate that would lower when bigfoot entered. It was never successful and the get is locked permanentlyh in the up position and the trap apparently undergoes restoration (the roof had been recently replaced, apparently due to rot).

Okay, well my trip was for business and I did range over the geography as claimed, did do some hiking and did visit the trap, but it wasn't just a bigfoot hunting trip. :D
 

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If you freeze the video just right you can see what looks like the outline of a hooded parka. Im not saying that bigfoot doesn't exist im just saying that I would need some more concrete evience before I believe it.
 
If you did see a Bigfoot would you shoot?In Harry and the Hendersons the hunter had a 458mag.

I used to ask myself the same question. One day I observed a bigfoot looking creature skyline and disappear on the backside of the ridge.

This thing really looked like a bigfoot it was hunched over all shaggy and just the right shape. I went over the hill to have a look. It was guy in a ghilles(sp) suit.

Careful what you shot at out there boys. 99.99999% probability that the "primate" you shoot and kill is a human in some kind of bigfoot looking attire.

How about this don't even think about shooting a bigfoot looking thing unless he is attacking you. Even then chances are it's a drunk psychopathic redneck in a Halloween costume.

Is that clear enough for everybody? That ghilles suit thing really scared the hell out of me once I had time to process it. That guy looked just like what I would expect a bigfoot to look like!

Imagine the horror after you do shoot your bigfoot and upon examining the body find a zipper!!
 
Simply put, how would a 400lb man-monkey conceal itself completely from civilization for over half a century? Sure, a few people have put up videos of the alleged creature, but no one has EVER produced a bone, body, live specim, or even a quality video of the beast.
First, I'm not a believer, but I kinda wish Bigfoot was real. It would be so cool to discover the species here among us.

According to BFRO.net, the theories are:

-The population density is very low. A small fraction of bear population.

-Even at that density, there's enough of them to have a sustainable population. The math is on the site. Takes into account amount of range necessary to support a big beast, etc.

-If a Bigfoot dies, and the body is not discovered within 1-2years, it would not be discoverable. You've seen winter kill deer/elk carcasses. After 2nd year, even the bones are pretty broken down. At the population densities they're talking about, and their tendency to stay in remote places, its possible we just haven't found one, yet. Small window.

Anyhoo, that's what they say.
 
If a Bigfoot dies, and the body is not discovered within 1-2years, it would not be discoverable. You've seen winter kill deer/elk carcasses. After 2nd year, even the bones are pretty broken down. At the population densities they're talking about, and their tendency to stay in remote places, its possible we just haven't found one, yet. Small window.

That is just amazing. These things have supposedly been around forever and yet there are no remains. Yet we find other fossils and subfossil remains. Even more strange is that we have hugely encroached on their supposed habitats and still not found any remains.

BFRO and many other groups make wild claims such as those noted above. Strange how they will consider non-diagnostic physical evidence as diagnostic and yet gloss over the lack of confirmable diagnostic evidence such as actual carcasses, bones, etc.
 
Well Christ almighty the most famous bigfoot film footage ever has been exposed as a hoax.

Doesn't that tell you anything?:confused:
 
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