Gun on campus...?

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Below is a series of emails I received today...

1.25pm
There has been a report of a male Caucasian on campus possibly with a gun. He is described wearing a green “hoodie” sweatshirt – has a backpack. Police are investigating and more information will follow.

Dean of Students

2.36pm
Please be advised that the campus is currently in lock down. This means you should stay in your room and lock your door and pull your shades down. Police are checking out the situation. Text messages are underway. You will be notified as soon as there is more information available.

Thanks.
Vice President for Business and Finance

3.53pm
Classes Will Be Held Tonight

Classes will be held tonight, Tuesday, April 8

4.27pm
Campus is Open; Report of Student with Gun Proved False

Police and AU campus security have confirmed that the report of a student carrying a gun on campus was false. The student who was reported to have been carrying a gun was found to have a toy gun used in a game of tag that involves students shooting each other with plastic balls.

Campus is secure and safe, and faculty, staff and students may resume business as usual. Classes are proceeding as scheduled this evening.

8.13pm
Message from President

As most of you know by now, the gun in question in today's incident turned out to be a toy gun being used in a game of tag called "Zombies versus Humans." We had a report from a credible source that a young man had been spotted with a gun on campus. The report was taken seriously, as it should have been, and we implemented our emergency response procedures. Fortunately, the gun was a fake, but the response was appropriate given the potential severity of the situation. We will conduct a debriefing early tomorrow to review our responses and to identify and incorporate the lessons of this experience. Four general comments seem in order, though, even at this stage.

First, let me commend all those who responded to the situation on campus Tuesday afternoon. Emergency personnel, including our own Public Safety office, the Alfred Village Police Department, Allegany County Sheriff's Department, New York State Police, Alfred State College University Police and Alfred fire department, responded immediately and did an incredible job of assuring the safety of our faculty, staff and students.

Second, I would also like to thank all the faculty, staff and students for their calm, patience and understanding. Had this been a more serious incident than it turned out to be, I have every confidence that their poise would have enabled us to maintain the highest level of safety possible.

Third, we learned some positive things from the incident, and one of those was that our emergency response plan works well. That said, we also can identify aspects that need improvement. For example, our internal communications depend upon "E2Campus," a text-message alert system we implemented two years ago. It worked very well today in notifying people of the emergency. We did learn, however, that we need to work harder to have all faculty, staff and students register for the system. I would also observe that we underestimated how quickly the press would descend upon Alfred and how they would actually complicate our attending to an emergency.

Finally, it should come as no surprise to anyone that we will actually consider imposing a moratorium on Zombies versus Humans, and any other game that involves carrying toy weapons of any kind on our campus. These games are very enjoyable to the participants, who certainly intend no harm to anyone. Given the climate in our country today, with the shootings that have occurred on other campuses, we have to treat any report of a weapon on campus as a real threat. The disruption to academic and co curricular life, the cost to the local law enforcement agencies, and anxiety that we all experienced that arose today was significant. One young woman I spoke with tonight expressed genuine gratitude to the University and police for how well they responded, but she was crying as she did so. No doubt, all of us will carry some symptoms of stress with us.
 
Hmmm, evil thought.

If law abiding citizens tweak these nitwits from time to time (daily?) would they waste so many resources on non-events that they stop responding to 'armed person' calls? Would we become unremarkable through sheer exhaustion?

Would the disruption to folks' educations be worth it (I'm doubtful)? Better yet, could this be done so that it didn't get classes canceled?

C.
 
Playing is NOT allowed unless it involves dolls. Boys are not allowed to be boys anymore, pass it on.

If concealed carry was allowed it wouldn't be an issue. If there was a real shooter it would look more like:
1:25 - A man pulled a gun in the so-and-so building and got off 2 shots before 2 armed students returned fire. Nobody but the gunman was hit. Police will investigate when they get here. Today's special in the cafeteria is salsbusy steak. That is all.
 
One young woman I spoke with tonight expressed genuine gratitude to the University and police for how well they responded, but she was crying as she did so. No doubt, all of us will carry some symptoms of stress with us.
Nothing like changing life for everyone to comfort the hysteric.
 
that zombie game is going on here too.

some kid came at me with a nerf bat, almost got himself hurt.

people dont think about their actions.
 
With the recent push for allowing concealed carry on campus I hope the participants get some extra training to recognize these situations.

If these students didn't have the foresight to consider what running around with black plastic guns would look like to campus security, I doubt they'd consider the presence of CCW holders.
 
So, as I understand it, hysteria rules over commonsense? With a little thinking it might have been easy to tell what was happening. Seems like the trouble started with someone reporting a non event.
 
The OP's school has already shot their wad: next time they send out this kind of message a portion of students will simply ignore it as a repeat of the same thing. Especially if you've got things to get done, you're not just going to hunker down in your dorm room because someone's playing a game. Eventually, the whole system will be a farce.

That's what happened when I was in college with the fire alarm. They tested it once each week for the first month and then once per month after that. The alarms also got pulled a lot as pranks (especially in the middle of finals, in winter, in the middle of the night) and got set off by people burning popcorn in the microwave or lighting candles. Some of us eventually got to the point where we simply were sick of being called out of bed at all hours, and reasoning that the building was made of stone, metal, and concrete probably wasn't all that flammable, simply put in earplugs and carried on with whatever we were doing.
 
Last year a group was playing that game on campus here. I was standing in line to get lunch and some one shoves a pistol like object into my back and says "yer dead". Only after I broke his wrist and proceeded to beat the holy hell out of him did I relize what happend. Some people just don't stop to think about their actions.
 
As I walk around my college campus everyday, I love to marvel at the commonsense of everyone there.
Our college campuses hold the brightness of America's future!

: Really cheesy smile with a thumbs up:
 
I read a story in Maxim magazine a year or so ago, where an editor was actually sent to the UK (of all places) to play a game of "assassin." a few hundred players in a given town register and each player is given a dossier of another player, including home and work addresses, and a picture. when one player assassinates another player, they get the dossier of the victims intended target who becomes their new target. last one standing wins.
Difference was, they used water guns, which rarely look like real guns. and some of the covert weaponry they devised was ingenious. one guy had a hose under his shirt, around his shoulders with the "muzzle" in one sleeve and a squeeze bulb (like a bloodpressure cuff) in the other sleeve.
these games can be played smartly and harmlessly without scaring the sheep or using projectiles of any kind.
 
1.25pm
There has been a report of a male Caucasian on campus possibly with a gun.

3.53pm
Classes Will Be Held Tonight
I'm going to assume that they had figured out that the guy wasn't a threat before they announced this.

our emergency response plan works well.

Really? 2 hours and 28 minutes between letting people know what was going on and giving the all clear?
Of course I'm making the assumption that they sent out that last message as soon as they knew it was "safe."
 
I read a story in Maxim magazine a year or so ago, where an editor was actually sent to the UK (of all places) to play a game of "assassin." a few hundred players in a given town register and each player is given a dossier of another player, including home and work addresses, and a picture. when one player assassinates another player, they get the dossier of the victims intended target who becomes their new target. last one standing wins.
Played the same thing at my college when I started there in '92. Game was played once every semester the whole time I was there.We used silly string, water guns, nerf guns, rubber knives, etc.No panic.No cops. No call.No problem. of course, Friend and I used to sit right in fron of our dorm cleaning our guns after shooting, and no one even noticed, so....

Guess back then we could somehow magically all tell real from fake, play from danger, threat from no-threat. Was it magic, or did we all just stop to use our brains for 1 second rather than panic and scream for someone to come think and act for us.....

Wierd.:rolleyes:
 
good thing this was a gun free zone, else armed students might have rushed in and just started shooting every green sweetshirt on campus. it would have been a real bloodbath all over a silly game and a fake gun. Had guns been allowed on this campus on this day, hundreds of innocent children would have died just for wearing green.

I think we are all thankful this was a gun free campus and it wasnt St. Patrick's Day.
 
I like how they 'commend' everything and throw in their own propaganda as if they just stopped the sky from falling. People are too sensitive to the minority nowadays, especially since it has gotten so mainstream on every issue
 
good thing this was a gun free zone, else armed students might have rushed in and just started shooting every green sweetshirt on campus. it would have been a real bloodbath all over a silly game and a fake gun. Had guns been allowed on this campus on this day, hundreds of innocent children would have died just for wearing green.

I think we are all thankful this was a gun free campus and it wasnt St. Patrick's Day.
Wow. please let this be sarcasm.
 
I think we are all thankful this was a gun free campus and it wasnt St. Patrick's Day.
I completely agree. We are all thankful that this did not happen on St. Patrick's Day!
That was funny Seancass :)
 
I bought an Airsoft gun for fun shooting inside my home in a residential neighborhood, as well as running drills for practice so that I don't have use snap caps in the real deal. The purpose of these drills is that we can actually fire a round that, though it stings a bit, isn't in any way lethal. Yes, we use eye protection, don't confuse insanity with stupidity.

Anyway, some of the "airsoft" guns look pretty real. From a distance I wouldn't take the chance and let the guy get close to me, and I might cap him if he pointed it at me, after taking cover of course.

That being said, the gun I bought is shaped just like a Barretta, and is mostly clear plastic with some orange plastic pieces here and there. The only metal pieces are the springs and such that are all internal. The safety lever is metal also. I can't see anyone with even a small amount of intelligence mistaking this "weapon" for real.

Of course the problem I had was that I specifically looked for a pistol that wasn't "real" in appearance because my friends and I tend to practice at places like public parks. I ended up with a Daisey airsoft pistol. I would have preferred the c02 Crossman, but the more expensive and better the gun, the more real they looked.

I'm not saying this game that is being played on campus should be banned, but the people playing should take pains to make sure they aren't carrying a pistol that looks like the real thing. Common sense tells me that I don't want some nervous campus cop drawing down on me because I've got an airsoft that looks just like a real Sig!

Also, it is the the responsibility of the players to make sure they don't inadvertently involve those who aren't playing. I can see some dimwit making threatening gestures in a dark parking lot and having the entire Karate club go all Chuck Norris on his butt. Then he'd want Karate clubs banned on campus.
 
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