What if US was like Pakistan in terms of gun market?

I'd rather send the gang members to NY state.

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It would be useless. The land underneath NY State is barren. There is no evidence of large hydrocarbon reserves, not even anthracite.

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I'd rather send the gang members to NY state.

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Rachen wrote:

It would be useless. The land underneath NY State is barren. There is no evidence of large hydrocarbon reserves, not even anthracite.

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I don't think he intended to have them mine anything. : )

-Sans Authoritas

Please tell me that's all sarcasm..because if it's not, the unbelievable irony must be totally lost on you.

Learn some Russian, and you'd have had a great job in the USSR a few decades back.

Do you want the situation in pakistan replicated in the US?
I would lov to own automatics... but not at the cost of freedom.

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Gangs are like a poisonous organic compound.

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So are facists

Rachen, the country you describe is NOT The United States of America, it is Stalin's Russia.

Your passion is misguided. Freedom allows for many cultures, opinions and everything that comes with that.

Rachen, the country you describe is NOT The United States of America, it is Stalin's Russia.

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I, and a great many people dislike the popular culture of today, and how it breeds violence and sexually provocative world.

I believe I have the cure for that. In a truly free society, people don't have to worry about crime and violence and being subjected to subversive music and pop culture.

Your don't believe in freedom.

Your version removes that freedom, and the responsibility that comes with it. "Pop" culture is short for popular culture. You are in the minority if you disagree with what is popular. What is wrong with the freedom to be violent and sexually provocative?

No thanks.

I, and a great many people dislike the popular culture of today, and how it breeds violence and sexually provocative world.

I believe I have the cure for that. In a truly free society, people don't have to worry about crime and violence and being subjected to subversive music and pop culture.

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So, to become free, we make it so that people are not allowed to watch TV, we revoke freedom of press, we ban crappy rap music, and then we move into Lenin's radiant future?

You have a seriously twisted idea of freedom. I seriously hope you're kidding, but considering that you post this spiel every night I don't think you are.

Guys, you might want to do a little back reading of Rachen's posts.

Rachen is Chinese and appears to favor the form of government currently in power there. His MySpace page features-prominently-an image of (I believe) Mao.

If my tinfoil hat wasn't so tight, I'd tell you he was here to help promote what a wonderful and reasonable place China is (right before the Olympic Games).

But whomever Rachen is, I think the applicable term is: Troll.

Don't feed the Trolls!

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"Rachen, the country you describe is NOT The United States of America, it is Stalin's Russia."

Well, gee whiz, ya saw that,too,didja ? Me thinks maybe some legs be getting pulled.

I want to share with you a song from a nation whose people are dedicated and working together to eliminate decadence and building a prosperous future.

Tell me if it's beauty made tears well up in your eyes.
It sure made my eyes gimmer with tears.

Please listen carefully.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKvFZekvYmk

But whomever Rachen is, I think the applicable term is: Troll.

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Please don't say that. I have always been a tireless promoter of the 2nd Amendment and always will be. I have always been on other forums trying to unite the shooting sports community for the long and hard fight ahead for our rights.

However, I live in NYC and have seen how true American culture have been mocked, degraded, and stomped on by the filthy, mud covered boots of materialism, greed, capitalism, and consumer culture.

Yeah, it's a troll.

Although, he has gone to a lot of trouble to project his image.

Rachen is Chinese and appears to favor the form of government currently in power there. His MySpace page features-prominently-an image of (I believe) Mao.

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I am aware. However, I don't think of him as a troll. Just a misguided soul in need of some perspective.

Tookie williams wrote childrens books on why gangs are bad.
People can change.
Not all people are all bad or all good. Gang members should not be convicted anywhere, including here on THR, to a life of punishing servitude. Being in a gang is not a crime, while being violent, stealing, selling drugs, and other criminal acts is, and is often the basis of gangs, you cannot send people to labor camps on charges of "risk for criminal behavior"

Rachen, that suggestion is fitting for a country that has no morals.

I hope with all of me that we are not there yet.

So, Rachen, Tell us all about "the peoples" right to own firearms in the DPRK?

Wait, is rachen just hambun in disguise?

An armed society is a polite society

I guarantee you that crime would be so low that we will be the safest country on earth because not very many criminals will mess with anyone anymore if almost every citizen has a AK slung over their shoulder or a SAW in their car.

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I carry a saw in my car quite often when I'm in the States. It's not too effective for long range confrontations and up close, while intimidating, not very effective there either. You should see it. I don't have any pictures of it but it has this really nice synthetic handle and it's got a short blade...wait...you were talking about the Squad Automatic Weapon SAW....duh.

When it comes to Pakistani-like laws (or their lack of enforcement), I'm on the fence. Do I want an RPG? No. Does someone else here on this board want one? Probably. I won't speak out against it though.

I think due to the nature of the US you still would be spending a butt-load on them if they became legalized though. And ammo prices would go through the roof if every Tom, Dick, and Jane began shooting FA.

I think due to the nature of the US you still would be spending a butt-load on them if they became legalized though. And ammo prices would go through the roof if every Tom, Dick, and Jane began shooting FA.

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I think some of these funds can be donated by the companies to support our pro gun candidates running for office. It will ensure our freedom in the future and it will be money worth spending.

I think some of these funds can be donated by the companies to support our pro gun candidates running for office. It will ensure our freedom in the future and it will be money worth spending.

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I wish you would stop using the word "our". Freedom does not mean what you think it means and I would hate to think any of us have anything in common with your views.

I like the idea of international market pricing on all small arms with full availability in the US market.

I think it would be better for the international community (ahem listen her UN) to have arms brought to the US where they will be easily sold to sportsmen and collectors rather than equipping some fascist banana republic for the genocide du jour.

Sure you might get a few reports of an RPG used in an armored car job, and VT or Columbine style assault would start out with even more drama, but it would be quelled almost instantly by the would be victims.

I can imagine that with widespread access to select fire arms, machine guns, and rocket launchers the next LA riots could result in Mogadishu style warlord battles.

As a free American I am willing to take these chances.