MAURICE
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Not that I can recall. I have had friends come up and pat me on the hip in a subtle kind of way just to make sure i was carrying. Ah, having pro-carry type friends....
Have you ever been "made" by personal contact?
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Stevie-Ray
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Several times now, by hugs from women I see only a few times a year. I think most of them know by now. I actually got the requisite "Is that a gun in your pants or are you just happy to see me," last year after a rather vigorous holiday hug. I simply answered, "Wouldn't you like to know?"
Chuck Dye
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I have not been made by personal contact but was questioned by a bright kid.
Without reading this entire thread, which I will do later on, WHY would you even CARE if someone 'made' or noticed that you were carrying a concealed weapon? WHY would YOU even CARE if a lady or gentleman NOTICED this or did NOT notice that you were packing 'heat"?!?
My husband conceals and open carries out here. I have an older lady friend who has come around in 'firearms' even though she has NOT come far enough... my opinion. Well, when they were out here visiting, she gave my husband a hug. She is taller than I am and HE is over 6 feet tall. He had an over shirt over his shoulder holster packing his Kimber 45A.C.P. and he had some other firearms in the vehicle. We were taking them all over Montana, way up north, and around here too.
Anyway... I discuss firearms with her and always have especially when I first started to buy MY own back in 1998 and on... not just using my late husband's firearms. She mentioned to me that she NOTICED that he must have been packing heat (Concealed.) because she FELT it when she gave him a big hug. He did not mention it or even THINK about it because he packs heat EVERYDAY concealed and open carries often too. If she had ASKED HIM... he would not have been shy and told her all about his KIMBER too! Grin.
Her own husband finally started to have a firearm with them on their retirement travels, they CAMP in remote places, etc. He got his CCW too. He should practice more often in my opinion but he is doing this on a more regular basis.
Personally, I could care LESS what someone THINKS or FEELS about my firearms or firearm ownership! By the way, MT gun laws are different in several aspects compared to some OTHER states. I OPEN CARRY VERY often, I PREFER open carry and I don't care what people think or say about it! I have NEVER had anyone say something to me but once and they were COOL about it. It was a MAN asking me about MY shoulder holster and my firearm - my former S&W Model 29 - a gift to me, not my western cowboy leather belt/2 holsters and Ruger Single Action Revolvers, at that time. The man was from Indiana, a retired teacher and he was MORE 'liberal' in HIS politics along with some of those older people who camped near me including a former Veteran.
Who cares what someone 'thinks' about their God given right to self defense that is backed up in the USA by the SECOND?
Respectfully yours,
Catherine
My husband conceals and open carries out here. I have an older lady friend who has come around in 'firearms' even though she has NOT come far enough... my opinion. Well, when they were out here visiting, she gave my husband a hug. She is taller than I am and HE is over 6 feet tall. He had an over shirt over his shoulder holster packing his Kimber 45A.C.P. and he had some other firearms in the vehicle. We were taking them all over Montana, way up north, and around here too.
Anyway... I discuss firearms with her and always have especially when I first started to buy MY own back in 1998 and on... not just using my late husband's firearms. She mentioned to me that she NOTICED that he must have been packing heat (Concealed.) because she FELT it when she gave him a big hug. He did not mention it or even THINK about it because he packs heat EVERYDAY concealed and open carries often too. If she had ASKED HIM... he would not have been shy and told her all about his KIMBER too! Grin.
Her own husband finally started to have a firearm with them on their retirement travels, they CAMP in remote places, etc. He got his CCW too. He should practice more often in my opinion but he is doing this on a more regular basis.
Personally, I could care LESS what someone THINKS or FEELS about my firearms or firearm ownership! By the way, MT gun laws are different in several aspects compared to some OTHER states. I OPEN CARRY VERY often, I PREFER open carry and I don't care what people think or say about it! I have NEVER had anyone say something to me but once and they were COOL about it. It was a MAN asking me about MY shoulder holster and my firearm - my former S&W Model 29 - a gift to me, not my western cowboy leather belt/2 holsters and Ruger Single Action Revolvers, at that time. The man was from Indiana, a retired teacher and he was MORE 'liberal' in HIS politics along with some of those older people who camped near me including a former Veteran.
Who cares what someone 'thinks' about their God given right to self defense that is backed up in the USA by the SECOND?
Respectfully yours,
Catherine
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Desk Jockey
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I don't care what my fellow citizens think about me being prepared. I do care about them causing me inconvenience if they find out.
In most places, being 'caught' carrying a gun will bring unwelcomed attention. Maybe not the first time, maybe not the fifth, but sooner or later someone will freak out and make a fuss.
As I said earlier, if I am 'made' carrying at work, I have no doubt there will be ramifications for 900 other employees. I've worked with some of these people for 12 years, and don't hide the fact that I go hunting and shooting regularly. But if it was known that I exercise my 2A rights at work, I'm sure it would be the basis for a company-wide 'no guns' policy.
To me, concealed means concealed.
fearless leader
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Funny you should ask...
I was in the mountains of VA during a heavy snow. I was wearing a parka and 2 flannel shirts, one tucked, the other just an added layer which hid my Model 29 S&W 4" in a Bianchi Vertical shoulder holster. I think it was an X-15.
I went to take a sweetheart whom didn't know I carry, some supplies. She decided that we should go to a friend of hers house (another woman in our square dance club).
When we arrived, the mutual friend's (Jeannie) house was toasty warm. I was starting to sweat, but we were about to leave when Jeannie offered to take my coat.
I changed the subject and headed for the bathroom, but it was occupied. Allie, who got me into this, came over with Jeannie and were wondering why I wouldn't take my coat off. I said OK, I'll take it off, and walked a few feet away and tried to go to a part of the rather large room where no one seemed to be looking at me.
I tried to strip of the parka, outer shirt, and holster in one swipe and was nearly successfull when Allie saw a part of the holster and questioned me. She kept my secret, but never had anything much to do with me after that night.
Once my Sig 226 fell out of an upside-down rig during a job interview in a bank, which got exciting!
I was in the mountains of VA during a heavy snow. I was wearing a parka and 2 flannel shirts, one tucked, the other just an added layer which hid my Model 29 S&W 4" in a Bianchi Vertical shoulder holster. I think it was an X-15.
I went to take a sweetheart whom didn't know I carry, some supplies. She decided that we should go to a friend of hers house (another woman in our square dance club).
When we arrived, the mutual friend's (Jeannie) house was toasty warm. I was starting to sweat, but we were about to leave when Jeannie offered to take my coat.
I changed the subject and headed for the bathroom, but it was occupied. Allie, who got me into this, came over with Jeannie and were wondering why I wouldn't take my coat off. I said OK, I'll take it off, and walked a few feet away and tried to go to a part of the rather large room where no one seemed to be looking at me.
I tried to strip of the parka, outer shirt, and holster in one swipe and was nearly successfull when Allie saw a part of the holster and questioned me. She kept my secret, but never had anything much to do with me after that night.
Once my Sig 226 fell out of an upside-down rig during a job interview in a bank, which got exciting!
rero360
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just once from someone who didn't know I carried. My ex used to rub against my side to make sure I had it on me, but the one time was one of my mother's cousins. I was in my suit and sat down on some bleachers infront of her, I guess the butt of my 1911 hit her shin cause she asked what it was. I know I wasn't printing, just told her it was nothing and she just chuckled.
ProguninTN
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Yep
While being hugged by mom.
While being hugged by mom.
HungSquirrel
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Yep...a little lady gave me a hug, then inquired "what the [heck] is that!?" After I told her, we went to the range a few times.
qajaq59
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Only once. I was in a store and reached way up on a shelf for something and my coat apparently rode way up. A woman shrieked," He has a gun." And me, like an idiot said, "Who, where?
At church i attended church in a very "low" part of town. Always under my suit jacket i had the xd .45 on my belt one day the pastor called me in his office and we talked for about an hour about just stuff. When i got up to leave he hugged me and he noticed the gun. When he asked me i showed him then he asked where he could get one.
romma
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Up here, your permit to carry will probably be yanked by the Dept of Public Safety...
Ironically, there are no laws against open carry here. They do it because,,, "They Can"...
Ironically, there are no laws against open carry here. They do it because,,, "They Can"...
Almost did, in the embarassing "bathroom stall incident"...
No, I was not tapdancing.
Spare magazine fell out of its carrier when my waistband rolled over.
*thud*
*grumble*
*hand quickly retrieves errant magazine*
Whomever was in there just washed their hands and left, quickly. This was in a Bob Evans restaurant, btw.
gp911
No, I was not tapdancing.
Spare magazine fell out of its carrier when my waistband rolled over.
*thud*
*grumble*
*hand quickly retrieves errant magazine*
Whomever was in there just washed their hands and left, quickly. This was in a Bob Evans restaurant, btw.
gp911
I've gotten pretty good at the whole low arm, elbow tucked tight to the body hug thing. I've never been 'made' during a hug when I've tried to prevent it.
I did have a co-worker give me a kidney shot one day when I was giving him a hard time about something. I found a new way that carrying a pistol can offer protection. Seemed to hurt his hand pretty good, I barely felt it. lol
I did have a co-worker give me a kidney shot one day when I was giving him a hard time about something. I found a new way that carrying a pistol can offer protection. Seemed to hurt his hand pretty good, I barely felt it. lol
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Up here, your permit to carry will probably be yanked by the Dept of Public Safety...
Ironically, there are no laws against open carry here. They do it because,,, "They Can"...
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Hello Romma,
Have there been many cases of "They Can" in your state since open carry is legal?
Do they consider that brandishing even when it is not?
Thanks for any or all information.
Have a nice day.
Respectfully yours,
Catherine
PS: To the others here:
Some places of employment do not let you conceal or open carry... it is in their rule book and if you want to work for THEM... you have to abide by their rules. If you don't like their rules... work at a place that gives you that right or become self employed.
Up here, your permit to carry will probably be yanked by the Dept of Public Safety...
Ironically, there are no laws against open carry here. They do it because,,, "They Can"...
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Hello Romma,
Have there been many cases of "They Can" in your state since open carry is legal?
Do they consider that brandishing even when it is not?
Thanks for any or all information.
Have a nice day.
Respectfully yours,
Catherine
PS: To the others here:
Some places of employment do not let you conceal or open carry... it is in their rule book and if you want to work for THEM... you have to abide by their rules. If you don't like their rules... work at a place that gives you that right or become self employed.
aerod1
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Yes, twice and both times were at church.
Everyone at my church knows I am a "gun guy" and once a guy saw the clip on my IWB holster. He could NOT see the gun because the way I have it arranged it is totally concealed. He said, "What is that?" then before I could answer he said, "Oh, never mind, I know" and that was it.
The next time was when our church Men's group was cooking breakfast and a guy bumped into me and said, "What's that?" and another guy said, "I bet it's a gun" and then the first guy said, "You can't have a gun in church" and that is when I said, " Well you don't know it is a gun but you are wrong, you CAN carry a gun to church in Texas if you have a CHL. Nothing else was said.
There are a lot of pro gun people in our church that have a CHL and carry.
Our church has "range days" at the "Garland Public Shooting Range". It is sponsored by the Men's group but some of the ladies attend as well. We have an informal clay target shoot and afterwards we shoot handguns and rifles. GPSR is very accomodating to our church! I think God blesses our group.
Those are the only two times I have been "made" and they still don't absolutely know I was carrying, but they had a good guess.
Everyone at my church knows I am a "gun guy" and once a guy saw the clip on my IWB holster. He could NOT see the gun because the way I have it arranged it is totally concealed. He said, "What is that?" then before I could answer he said, "Oh, never mind, I know" and that was it.
The next time was when our church Men's group was cooking breakfast and a guy bumped into me and said, "What's that?" and another guy said, "I bet it's a gun" and then the first guy said, "You can't have a gun in church" and that is when I said, " Well you don't know it is a gun but you are wrong, you CAN carry a gun to church in Texas if you have a CHL. Nothing else was said.
There are a lot of pro gun people in our church that have a CHL and carry.
Our church has "range days" at the "Garland Public Shooting Range". It is sponsored by the Men's group but some of the ladies attend as well. We have an informal clay target shoot and afterwards we shoot handguns and rifles. GPSR is very accomodating to our church! I think God blesses our group.
Those are the only two times I have been "made" and they still don't absolutely know I was carrying, but they had a good guess.
romma
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Enough cases to not want to get caught blowing concealment.
The last case I recall was someone eating dinner in Glastonbury, someone saw his carry piece, called the cops, and he was charged with breach of peace or some such thing.
The charges were dropped, but now the gentleman is battling Dept of Public Safety up here. It takes 1.5 years to get a hearing to try to get your permit back.
http://conservative247.org/governme.../44/concealment-and-the-second-amendment.html
The date on this is wrong, I believe it was June 07
In June of 2008, James Goldberg, a Connecticut resident with a valid state pistol permit, was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of breach of peace at a restaurant in Glastonbury, Conn.
Without adding any commentary on my part, here is a scan of the police report and here is Goldberg’s complaint filed in U.S. District Court.
In short, an employee saw Goldberg’s pistol while he was waiting to pick up some take out food, called law enforcement, and started to move people away from him. When police arrived, they too saw the holstered weapon and arrested him for breach of peace.
The misdemeanor charge was dropped about a month later, but Goldberg had his pistol confiscated and destroyed, had to pay a $500 fine and they took his permit. At the time Goldberg had to wait - 22 months - for a hearing with the civilian firearms review board responsible for handling pistol permit appeals.
romma
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Also there is a case where a member of the Firearms permit review board is fight to get his very own permit reinstated for a similar instance.
bnkrazy
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Once, a friend of mine was sitting on my couch and as I walked up to the side where he was he reached out to smack me in the stomach to say hello and instead whacked the P99 sitting at 1:00. He hasn't tried that again. Something about sore knuckles.
Also, there was a few times when my 4yo would hug me when getting home from work and would bump her head into it. She now waits for me to pick her up.
Also, there was a few times when my 4yo would hug me when getting home from work and would bump her head into it. She now waits for me to pick her up.
I never hid it from any of my employees when I was younger, an occasional customer would ask one of the girls who worked for me, is he carrying a gun, they were all used to it, back in the seventys and 80's we took 90% cash, no credit cards, till mid 80's, and few checks from folks we knew. So every night when I closed up I would make a cash deposit up to four or five grand a night, in cash, so it was common to see business owners make nightlly deposits. One time I got "frisked" about 30 years ago, before I could tell the officer that I had a permit, he pushed me against a car, It was an after hours club, and I should have left my gun in the car, but in NY, they used to break intro cars quite frequentlly in downtown manhatten, anyhow, the cop said go ahead he's ok, I don't know if he thought I was a fellow Officer, or just missed it, and wasn't about to ask, never did that again.
Tropical Buzz
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I've been made a few times through intimate and friendly contact. The last time, hovever, was interesting in that it occurred in a bank and it ended up involving a security guard that I'd had a minor altercation with earlier. I was carrying OWB under an untucked polo shirt.
Most banks down here close at 2:00PM weekdays except fridays and that day I made it in the door of a small branch that I rarely use with about 3 minutes to spare according to my watch. I smiled at the door security guard with a bit of a "whew!" as I took my place at the back of the long line that extended almost right up to the door. He sort of glared back as he locked the door and said that I was lucky he decided to let me in as it is after closing time. I was a bit surprised by his remark but I responded pleasantly that it was still not yet 2:00. He said my watch was wrong and I started to become irritated that this guy seemed intent on engaging me for some reason but I still replied calmly that I make a habit of verifying correct time on my watches every time I put them on. He gestured to a wall clock above the counter that displayed about two minutes after the hour and said that I better start setting my watch to "bank time" instead. By now I'd had enough and I told him the bank can set its clocks to whatever time they want - I'll be keeping my watches on correct time and besides - I'm here on business, not to discuss clocks with a security guard. The exchange drew the attention of the otherwise bored customers waiting in line.
A few minutes later, a good friend and former model of mine finished up at the counter and came over to say hi. She gave me a hug and, well aware that I carry from our previous photo shoots, playfully wiggled the butt of my gun (one of those shoots is a good gun related story in itself). I had placed a leather document folder under my arm on my strong side while we chatted and I suddenly noticed Mr. Security Guard shuffling over and leaning in to whisper in my ear. He very discreetly said "It's showing. You need to cover it up." It took a split second to register what he meant but sure enough, the folder had ridden up over the gun butt and I was printing badly. I said thanks and made a quick adjustment.
When I was leaving, the bank was almost empty and I thanked him for pointing out my faux pas. He nodded, smiled back and said "You can't be too careful these days. It's licensed of course?" I affirmed and we parted on a much better note than we had started off on. I've been back a couple of times when he was on duty and we always exchange a friendly nod. All's well that ends well.
Most banks down here close at 2:00PM weekdays except fridays and that day I made it in the door of a small branch that I rarely use with about 3 minutes to spare according to my watch. I smiled at the door security guard with a bit of a "whew!" as I took my place at the back of the long line that extended almost right up to the door. He sort of glared back as he locked the door and said that I was lucky he decided to let me in as it is after closing time. I was a bit surprised by his remark but I responded pleasantly that it was still not yet 2:00. He said my watch was wrong and I started to become irritated that this guy seemed intent on engaging me for some reason but I still replied calmly that I make a habit of verifying correct time on my watches every time I put them on. He gestured to a wall clock above the counter that displayed about two minutes after the hour and said that I better start setting my watch to "bank time" instead. By now I'd had enough and I told him the bank can set its clocks to whatever time they want - I'll be keeping my watches on correct time and besides - I'm here on business, not to discuss clocks with a security guard. The exchange drew the attention of the otherwise bored customers waiting in line.
A few minutes later, a good friend and former model of mine finished up at the counter and came over to say hi. She gave me a hug and, well aware that I carry from our previous photo shoots, playfully wiggled the butt of my gun (one of those shoots is a good gun related story in itself). I had placed a leather document folder under my arm on my strong side while we chatted and I suddenly noticed Mr. Security Guard shuffling over and leaning in to whisper in my ear. He very discreetly said "It's showing. You need to cover it up." It took a split second to register what he meant but sure enough, the folder had ridden up over the gun butt and I was printing badly. I said thanks and made a quick adjustment.
When I was leaving, the bank was almost empty and I thanked him for pointing out my faux pas. He nodded, smiled back and said "You can't be too careful these days. It's licensed of course?" I affirmed and we parted on a much better note than we had started off on. I've been back a couple of times when he was on duty and we always exchange a friendly nod. All's well that ends well.
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Also there is a case where a member of the Firearms permit review board is fight to get his very own permit reinstated for a similar instance.
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Dear Romma,
Wow! That is something else... shaking my head here.
Thank you very much for the answers to my questions regarding your state's OPEN CARRY policy.
Take care.
Sincerely,
Catherine
Also there is a case where a member of the Firearms permit review board is fight to get his very own permit reinstated for a similar instance.
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Dear Romma,
Wow! That is something else... shaking my head here.
Thank you very much for the answers to my questions regarding your state's OPEN CARRY policy.
Take care.
Sincerely,
Catherine
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