Gun Related STUPID Movie Mistakes

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Battlestar Galactica, as much as I love the new series, is absolutely horrible with all of the errors. Besides the drill and ceremony errors (such as constantly saluting EVERYONE), there was one particular episode that really irked me. The Cylons were just about to execute a group of prisoners on New Caprica, and a resistance fighter had her face so close to the optic on the rifle that I was positive she was going to have glass in her face.

????? so another world peoples would have the same ceremony pom and circumstance as those found on earth ??????? same q towards the way another world's weapons function ??????

Terminator 2: The famous sceen of Linda Hamilton cocking the shotgun by holding the slide and flipping the shotgun up and then sharply down.

No problems here with a Mossberg cruiser 500.



I have a problem with Mission Impossible:2. Besides the motorcycle tires going back and forth between street and off-road tires during the chase. The pristine HK that gets kicked up on the beach after being dropped and pushed into the wet beach sand.
 
I have to wonder how many people who constantly nitpick these sorts of mistakes have ever actually been involved with any sort of video or film production whatsoever.
 
Ditto on the primerless machine gun belts in Saving Private Ryan. I've seen this in several other war movies. Also, my memory may be hazy here but the cartrdiges in the Private Ryan belts looked like .308s, a round that wasn't adopted until 10 years after the battle of Normandy. Also, weren't these belts linked? The .30 Browning took cloth belts.
I never could figure out what that dorky translator was doing with that dismounted scope during the fight for the radar station. Was it supposed to be one of Jackson's spares?
Other goofups I've seen recently:
A history Channel piece on the Battle of the Bulge that shows American soldiers armed with what appear to be French MAS bolt action rifles.
A closeup of a GI loading an M1 with an en bloc clip filled with blank cartridges during a battle.
U.S. soldiers pulling the bolt back after every shot with an M1. (Because the blanks won't cycle the action?)
Then there's that annoying British guy who's a firearms "expert" on the History Channel. He was talking about the importance of smokeless powder. Prior to that, he said, a few shots and the battlefield was obscured by "dense clouds of black smoke." The powder was black but the smoke was white.
 
All the usual stuff, but sometimes they get it right

One particular instance comes to mind, from the movie Sahara.

In the shootout at the village well, the sidekick character picks up an AK, dropped by a shot soldier. He actually pops the mag, looks at the ammo, reinserts the mag, and chambers a round. I found that a very plausible thing to do, considering that you have no way of knowing if that particular warlord's thug even had ammo in the gun, and AKs don't lock open empty. It was, refreshing.

As has been mentioned, Garands do not always close upon loading.

The .30 cal Browning can be fed by either cloth belts, or disintegrating metal link belts.

The sniper shot through his scope is not BS. It has actually happened, and is documented (Carlos Hathcock - Vietnam). A very rare thing to be sure, but not impossible. The US sniper changing his scope is not believable. Sure, it can be done, and will work on the range, but it wasn't done in combat. Running, diving for cover, and a whole lot of other things will virtually ensure that any scope you carry in your pack will not still be zeroed when you get around to use it. And as far as I know, spare scopes were not issue items in WWII (or any other war). Another goof is the sniper talking about windage, while adjusting the objective lens (parallax).

And about the famous belts of ammo with the missing primers, one movie websight says that the primers (which were there) were black, so it just looked like they were missing. Yeah, right. Did anybody else notice that at least one of those belts of ammo had holes in the brass? This would look like a black spot on the case body, which is one of the two ways the military uses to ID dummy ammo.

The sounds that guns make are ALL added in, post production. ALL the gunshots, hammer clicks, slide racking and empty guns going click, click, click, are all added in after the movie is in the can. It isn't the actors, and often it isn't even the directors, it is the foley artists (the sound guys) that do this during the editing process. They add in nearly all the sounds other than the actors dialog. Doors slamming, stairs creaking, tires squealing, spaceships "zooming" through airless space (where sound cannot travel), all of it. This is done because of the fact that for most situations the background noise would drown out the actors voices if recorded at "normal" levels. And as one person noted, the stupid sounds of things that we know don't happen (like an M16 or a Glock going click, click, click when empty), Hollywood knows that everyone knows that when a gun is out of ammo it goes click, so they put that sound in so that the viewer will know the gun is out of ammo. It doesn't matter if the gun would really make that sound or not.
 
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Just remembered another. Train loaded with mercenary troops going through jungle in Africa. Train gets attacked by "UN" P-51 (?). Guy jumps on a flat car and starts firing an M2 at the fighter. Lots of flame coming out of the muzzel. The ammo belt does not move. No links flying, no brass ejecting.
 
The sounds that guns make are ALL added in, post production. ALL the gunshots, hammer clicks, slide racking and empty guns going click, click, click, are all added in after the movie is in the can. It isn't the actors, and often it isn't even the directors, it is the foley artists (the sound guys) that do this during the editing process. They add in nearly all the sounds other than the actors dialog. Doors slamming, stairs creaking, tires squealing, spaceships "zooming" through airless space (where sound cannot travel), all of it. This is done because of the fact that for most situations the background noise would drown out the actors voices if recorded at "normal" levels. And as one person noted, the stupid sounds of things that we know don't happen (like an M16 or a Glock going click, click, click when empty), Hollywood knows that everyone knows that when a gun is out of ammo it goes click, so they put that sound in so that the viewer will know the gun is out of ammo. It doesn't matter if the gun would really make that sound or not.

very good point, ive got a friend that was in a movie that is supposed to come out later this year... a full 4 months after filming was finished he had to fly back to FL to re-record all of the voice and audio... a great majority of the dialog was outdoors and wouldn't have been audible if recorded during the original filming
 
Things I Learned About Use of Guns from Plan 9 From Outer Space

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what about in the movie "shooter" when swagger hand cycles the barret m82 action each time after firing, but if you watch carefully, you can see it was an editing mistake, the movie "shooter" was actually fairly accurate with guns...

anyone seen the resident evil apocalypse special features, when the "armorer" for the movie was talking about the guns used?

he calls a minigun a "railgun" and he picks up an artic warfare L96 and calls it a .50 caliber. it disturbes me that they would let someone so ignorant near blank firing guns, let alone real guns...

but thats hollywood for ya
 
I was watching some movie tonight that involved people and dinosaurs. There were men taking down these huge reptiles with what I think was a Thompson SMG (could be wrong, wasn't watching that closely). A few rounds of .45 ACP and these 40-ton animals are done for.

Which leads to a new question: What caliber for brachiosaurs?
 
Bruce Willis in Last Man Standing...

Every time someone gets shot they fly about 15 feet backwards. I want those magical bullets!
 
4. In Saving Private Ryan, one obvious error I saw was that a soldier thumbed the en-block clip into his Garand and then slapped the operating rod handle forward to load the first round. Garands close on loading the clip.

Many M1s require the "slap" to get the first round into battery. It is generally a function of the tightness of the enbloc and the strength of the op rod spring.
 
Garands close really fast when you depress the follower with your thumb when the gun is empty. The bolt stripping the first round from a fully loaded clip inserted in the magazine is slow-motion and often does require a little forward assist.

"M1 thumb" usually happens during inspection and cleaning, not in firing.

I shoot modern and vintage military at the gun club and several competitors use M1 Garands.
 
I have to wonder how many people who constantly nitpick these sorts of mistakes have ever actually been involved with any sort of video or film production whatsoever.

But it's fun to nitpick. :)

Continuity errors, sound equipment clearly visible, cameraman reflected in a window. All great stuff. It's like a hidden prize for the aware.
 
"The Maltese Falcon"
Joel Cairo pulls a 1908 Colt .25acp on Sam. The camera angle changes and his trigger finger is suddenly alongside the slide instead of on the trigger. Right before Sam slaps the gun from his hand.
 
How about "Fight Club" when the main character fires the 9mm in his mouth to kill his other/split personality. The imaginary guy gets his head blown away yet main character only has a whole in his mouth. I'm pretty confident a 9mm going off in your mouth would be more than unpleasant.

That was kind of the point of that scene, actually. Tyler wasn't real. The narrator shooting himself was him destroying "Tyler", because he didn't need him anymore. "Tyler" had the hole blown in his head because the narrator "killed" him. That's more of a psychological part than a gun problem part.
 
If someone shoots 12 rounds out of a SAA, you know a reload was involved, even if they were filming a movie and he was shooting blanks.


Hello all. Newbie here. I just watched a Western called Vera Cruz yesterday starring Gary Cooper and Burt Lancaster.

Lancaster fires his six shooter 7 or 8 times in rapid succession toward the end of the film, much too quickly for there to be any reloading.

John Wayne does the same thing in the final shootout in The Sons Of Katie Elder. It's sometimes just bad editing or not paying attention, and mostly not caring.

Sidebar: How many people notice movies and police shows on tv where it's overcast and snowing/raining in a scene and in the next scene which takes place moment's later, there's not a cloud in the sky? Or movies where it's "winter" and snowing and you can see the sunlight hitting the fully bloomed trees in the background (or you don't see the person's breath in the "cold")? Mostly poor editing and not caring. Like Ed Wood said: "People don't want the little details, they just want to see the big picture!" :)
 
Also, in the Matrix series the various Agent Smith clones use Desert Eagles that have apparently been cured of all recoil.

Not a mistake, a story point.

Being someone that is 'out here' and 'in the industry' I can tell you that most writers, directors, and actors don't own any firearms, and their only familiarity with firearms usually comes from a familiarization course only one or two days long. To them, 50 yards looks like a long shot to take, and 100 yards looks impossible. Also, keep in mind the limitations of depth of field when shooting with film- it is very difficult to be able to keep 100 yards of distance in focus.

When we shot my thesis film, we had to teach the actors to handle firearms, to move in a military manner, and what firing real firearms felt like. They had a blast at the range, and most of them had never handled a firearm before in their lives, and if they did, it was a blank gun prop, not a real gun. Take note, i made them memorize the four rules and be able to parrot it back to me on command before i even let them touch a real firearm. I've seen some really unsafe gun handling on sets.....
 
Complaining about the Agents not displaying "recoil" on their Desert Eagles ignores the fact that these beings leap across rooftops like Spider-Man and can punch through brick walls with ease.

After all, Agent Smith got smacked by a subway train and came back for more and brought his own spoon and a big grin.

If you can run around after being hit by a subway train, no puny handgun's going to force your arm to move in recoil.
 
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