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I was hoping for recommendations on a shoulder holster that doesn't leave the wearer with that bra-print across the back. I was wondering if there are any manufacturers which make such a device (Maybe one with some elasticity and minimal snaps/adjusters). I know I could probably go for a thicker jacket (for winter carry) to help with concealment.

IWB holsters are not an option (I'm barely able to fit myself in my pants, much less a firearm in addition, though I'm working on that issue).

Also, while we're on the topic of holsters, I was wondering if there are ankle holsters that aren't notorious for sliding down the wearer's leg. I have a friend who just got one and he says he won't wear it because of that problem.

I have a S&W J frame revolver, airweight.

I'm new to carrying, so sorry if I sound like an annoying kid asking his mom why the sky is blue. Any help (including alternative concealment suggestions) is greatly appreciated.
 
To conceal a shoulder holster takes a fairly heavy cover garment. I have one, but rarely use it.

You might check out the Kramer undercover and 5.11 holster shirts. Deep cover, but a slow draw.

Ankle holsters are meant to ride on your ankle, not halfway up your leg. To conceal them you need pants that break on top of your shoes with wide pant leg bottoms. When you sit down put your hand on your knee so the pant leg doesn't ride up. Galco ankle glove works for me both for my snubbie and my Glock 26. Ankle holsters are also a slow draw.
 
We care too much what people think.

If you have to come up with a quick answer tell the buttinski it's a shoulder brace from an old injury when you were a rodeo clown.

If he presses for details, tell him you just aren't ready to talk about the carnage of "that horrible night."
 
How about a belt holster OWB? With a jacket or untucked shirt it easily concealable.
 
I was looking at cross draw holsters the other day and came across something that I don't know how to point you towards. I'll try to describe it as best as I understood it. Instead of wearing a shoulder holster it was an apparatus that had two parts to the holster. It had a small plastic plate that went under your shirt. It had two nubs on it that pressed the shirt and nubs through the female receiver plate on the holster. The actual holster had the female plate on it that went over the two nubs pressing against the shirt, these two nubs then slid forward to snap lock in place. My first thought when looking at this was does it destroy your shirt with repeated wear? My second question was how well would it stay in place with a heavy pistol? It certainly would have eliminated the shoulder holster print lines. I don't know but it was interesting none the less. I wish I could remember the URL
 
Anyone have any experience with the Galco executive shoulder holster? I'm thinking if I got one for the S&W 442 J-frame that it would fit my 431pd J-frame.

If you have to come up with a quick answer tell the buttinski it's a shoulder brace from an old injury when you were a rodeo clown.
I love it. I'll have to use that one.

Also, I'm a slow draw regardless. That's kind of a non-issue (something I could work on, admittedly), so all recommendations are welcome.
 
40 ounces of holster to carry 15 ounces of gun?? I know I'm slow but after 3 years of J-frame I've yet to buy a holster. Back pocket and t-shirt thus far. I'd consider a pocket holster and a IWB were I you. Maybe a bellyband too.
 
I was hoping for recommendations on a shoulder holster that doesn't leave the wearer with that bra-print across the back.

Before Internet and all the new companies, allow me to share a suggestion that comes from the old days.
Even before "dressing around the gun" became popular to say and parrot.

Clothes were designed to conceal guns.

I do not know, and I do not want to know what you do and how you have to dress.
Still clothes were made, tailors "tailored" and seamstresses "altered" clothes to not only conceal shoulder holsters, also the clothes them selves had built in holsters.

Dead Serious.

Folks did not have choices and men and women did not fuss or holler out "somebody has got to do something".

There are those that do not want others to know, and do not share, except with like kind.

A lady can conceal a 1911 in a skirt pocket without a "holster", just as I could conceal a full size 1911 in a "shoulder rig" and nobody knew.

I could take off my jacket, and nobody would see the rig, or gun.
The jacket had a built in "Holster".

It might look like I had a gun stuck in my waistband...my pants had a built in holster.

My custom jacket , like a blue blazer might have a JCPenney label, and my lady pard's similar had a Sears label...We we had Model 29s with a custom tweake model 29 under ours and 1911s IWB.

If you are serious, contact BullfrogKen , a staff member here.
This is about blending in, not plugging a sale.
 
You have purchased one of the smallest and lightest revolvers available: the Smith & Wesson 442 Airweight, which was designed for use as a pocket gun or "belly gun."

You intend to carry that little gun in a shoulder holster, from which you will point it directly at your weakside arm as you draw it. You are a new shooter and are not accustomed to carrying a concealed handgun. You have a friend who won't wear the ankle holster he just bought because they are notorious for sliding down the wearer's leg. You won't wear an inside-the-waistband holster in which to put your little gun because your pants are too tight, so you presumably intend to lose weight so you can get the little gun and a holster in there.

Have you--with or without your friend who is trying to wear an ankle holster around his leg--considered the wisdom of taking a good basic course of instruction from a competent (which means "nationally known" and "pricey," instead of a local good old boy) instructor in such matters? You probably will save yourself from wasting money and possibly shooting yourself.
 
when in san francisco it would not be a "problem".

might even get you a date.


but really i have never had a problem, at times i carry a cross draw 1911 under my shoulder. nobody has said anything...yet.
but then i only carry this way when cold out, for the jacket.
 
You intend to carry that little gun in a shoulder holster, from which you will point it directly at your weakside arm as you draw it. You are a new shooter and are not accustomed to carrying a concealed handgun. You have a friend who won't wear the ankle holster he just bought because they are notorious for sliding down the wearer's leg. You won't wear an inside-the-waistband holster in which to put your little gun because your pants are too tight, so you presumably intend to lose weight so you can get the little gun and a holster in there.

Well, I could fit the gun in there, but not without some serious printing going on. Maybe I could take my economic stimulus and go get some bigger pants. :eek:

I'm not new to shooting, but definitely new to concealed carry (and carry in general). Safety is a top priority, and I would never want to jeopardize that, which is one reason I came here for suggestions first.

Either way, I guess there is no real hurry. We gun owners are still waiting for the Gov's signature here in GA.

EDIT: In reference to classes, how many of you took classes before carrying concealed? Are there any review sites for gun courses/programs? (I suppose I could always come and sift through the THR archives, but I did a search for "shoulder holster" and I was getting all kinds of off the wall links)

EDIT#2: Thanks again for all the replies.
 
To add to the safety message above, whatever form of carry you choose, practice drawing many times with an unloaded gun first before carrying.

As far as classes, I took the three day pistol class at the Chapman school in Missouri before carrying. A basic NRA safety class would be a good place to start.
 
Better late than never.
I carry a Glock 27 in a Galco ankle glove holster EVERY day to work (I sit behind a desk and it's just easier than the IWB. I carry the Kimber Ultra Carry IWB everywhere else.) I really didn't think I would like the ankle holster and went into it with a bad attitude. I tried it at the urgings of a friend. My opinion has changed in the months since I got it. After the first week, I found it to be comfortable and easily concealed under my pants whether seated or walking around. Being on my leg, the weight is a moot point and I don't have to worry about wind blowing a shirt open, or bending over and showing the world my grips. IF you are seated for major periods of time, I would recommend you at least look at one.
My two cents.
SRT
 
Another Okie:

As far as classes, I took the three day pistol class at the Chapman school in Missouri before carrying.

You took a class with Ray Chapman? I would have liked to have done that too. It's smart to study with a master. And that, of course, is what I'm trying to advise Nobody's Hero. Work with the best.

Nobody's Hero:

Sorry I misunderstood you to be a new shooter. The rest stands. :)

Whatever other kinds of shooting you've done, carrying a legally concealed firearm is different. There are different responsibilities, different rules, different concerns, different goals, different shooting ... different.

One of the differences is that you must dress around the gun. You carry it, of course, but in a very real sense it carries you. Your life immediately changes and becomes more complex.

What concerns me is that your gears haven't yet meshed. Although you can indeed carry that J-frame in a shoulder holster, belt holster, or whatever other container man has devised, it is a pocket gun--a belly gun--a hideout gun. Although Man-O-War might have been able to pull a carriage very nicely, he would have been the wrong horse for the purpose. You've wasted a bunch of compromises to get capability that you won't use.

You need and would benefit from a few courses. Your very first needs to be Massad Ayoob's Judicious Use of Deadly Force. Ayoob will get the gears meshed properly so you can benefit from additional courses. Your second course should be the second part of his beginning sequence: Stressfire I. At its conclusion ask him what to do next.
 
Try the SORD Australia site they supply to Air Marshals. It is snug fitting high draw (with a loose shirt) and has spots for cuffs, mace and mags.
 
so are you wearing a shoulder holster under a shirt and nothing else?

if i ever use a shoulder rig, i wear a light shirt or cuttoff with a light button up shirt, like a flannel or dress type shirt. i like a shoulder rig, because it wont get caught on anything like a belt holster will, i work in a garage and on a farm, so there are many snug places i have to navagate. imagine getting stuck in a hay bailer becuase your belt holster got snagged, ist never happened to me, but its still something to think about. car seat belts, table corners, the list goes on
 
That little revolver is so light that it would probably be possible to figure a way to carry it in a hat.

It makes a great pocket pistol for fat folks with pleated Dockers, but the problem is keeping your pants from slipping down under your belly, right? There's an answer for that too called "suspenders". They're cheap, even for nice ones from Cabela's is only $17. and change.

I just outfitted a LARGE friend with the gear he needed to be able to be pretty well armed with a Kahr PM9, two mags, and a Keltec P32 bug in a cheap velcro and elastic ankle holster from Sportsman's Guide. It took him, or actually the people who know him, a little while to get used to seeing him in his s'penders but now he looks like he's been wearing them all his life.
I actually think it suits his rolly-polly style to have them on especially now that he's developed the habit of hooking his thumbs through them.

All he needs is a big white cowboy hat to play Boss Hog in the movies. :D

Or a light colored linen suit and a light tan panama......too cool. Think Al Hirt - a world famous jazz trumpet player in the sixties.
 
Another vote for the shoulder holster from US Galco. I have one and can easily conceal a full size 1911. The key, as others have mentioned, is two layers. First a t shirt and then a cover shirt (easy if you are using it in a business setting with a dress shirt and/or jacket. Works fine with an undershirt and button down shirt (untucked, of course).
 
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