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so about 2 years ago i bought a scoped ruger m77mk2 in 260rem for 325 otd. i thought it was a screamin deal on a basicly new rifle. i quickly discovered why the previos owner abandoned it. lack of ammo variety led me to buy a modest reloading set up. so as time progressed, so did my love of guns and the capabilities of my reloading gear. i was in my prefered gun shop a few months ago and saw a 4"s&w 586-1 for 459 in 95%+ condition. i took one look at that polished blue and fell head over heals in lust. it had the firing pin in the right spot, and no internal lock. i bought it on the spot. then i let my neighbor talk me into believing the 357 was a real wrist twister, so i relegated it to 38's and 38+p. then last weekend i bought some 125gr rem green box sjhp's. man, i am hooked. so now i want to load the 357--lots of 357. hot ones too. but i have some hang ups about shooting my discontinued, semi-classic smith loose.

does anyone else worry about shooting their classic, semi-classic pistols loose? should i worry? due to increasing costs and the quantity i want to shoot/reload i was thinking hard cast bullits like laser-cast and meister. are these good bullits to use? how fast can i drive them? my reloading experience thus far has been limited to jacketed bullets-plug and play. do these comercialy hard cast bullits need to be sized? lubed? i heard the gp100 was designed to take tens of thousands of full power mag loads without falling to pieces, but the one i held was kinda heavy, the trigger was utilitarian at best and lacked the silkiness of my smith, and the blueing was less than lustful. i'm in love with my smith, and that feel of a mag going off in my hand. i now spend my days waiting till the weekend when i can head to the range with it, but i fear my addiction may be hurting the ones i love.

thoughts, input, experiences, remidies? thanx for listening.
 
The 581/681/586/686 was designed around the "full house" .357 Magnum ammunition. I wouldn't worry about shooting it loose. If you were shooting a K-Frame, then I would worry. Those are the Model 13/65/19/66.

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does anyone else worry about shooting their classic, semi-classic pistols loose

No. If a particular gun is suspect to not hold up to Ruger only loads, I simply down load to match THAT gun, whether new, old, classic or even antique. That is the beauty of reloading... you don't have to settle on anything. You match the ammo to the gun. I would never even think of loading a Ruger only .45 Colt hunting load in a SAA or replica.

In your smiths, you must consider the gun and what it was designed to shoot. Do you think shooting "10 of 1000's of hot loads" will harm them? I am guessing yes if you mean battering them loose. If you want to shoot that many full house .357's get you a Ruger and blaze away.

Otherwise, shoot your smith's with what they were designed to be shot with - all things in moderation! And of course you can shoot lead bullets. There are some key elements to consider:

Matching the right bullet to the chosen velocity to avoid leading - which is less likely in a fine S&W anyway. In general, softer bullets for slower velocity and harder bullets for full power loads. Try to stick with bullets in the 12-16 BNH range for target to moderate loads and you should be fine.

Ask the manufacturer directly about their hardness - not the distributor or supplier. Also... you will need to slug each gun's barrel from both ends and each cylinder to match the bullet diameter to each gun. Bullets do not have to be sized if they are purchased in the correct diameter to start with.

They DO have to be lubed. Most cast bullets come with a poor waxy lube and I relube every one I load with Lee Liquid Alox. A small squirt in a ziplock sandwich bag with a couple of handfuls of bullets, mix them all around and pour them out to dry. Easy breezy.
 
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