Electrician's Scissors

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Warning: These are extremley sharp and dangerous tools!

One has to pay attention, and not take for granted that just because these are "scissors" they are not dangerous.

A person did not heed my warning, or those of others, and lost the tip of a finger using my Panduit electrician scissors.


Here is a picture I snagged in a hurry off the first site I came to , to show what I am speaking of to those not familiar with electrician scissors.

http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_PT-T02.htm

Many of you in Information Technology, Voice & Data Cabling, and of course Electricians are familiar with these.

My personal favorites are Panduit, Jameson and Fluke.
These are what I had, and have used. At some point I need to replace mine.


These are designed to cut!
They cut AWG from 19 -34 extremely well as this is what they are designed to do.
They will continue to remain sharp, and cut very very well!


I highly recommend everyone have a pair of these, and add to their tools in the tool box.
And not just a "physical tool box" also part of the tools in the tool box for staying safe.


These are not toys, instead dangerous tools, just as knives and firearms are.
Therefore, one must apply Safety in the owning of, and use of these electrician scissors.


In a serious situation, one might have to actually use these to cut wire as designed for in IT, Voice Data, or Electrical use as designed.
Such as Cat 3 , or Cat 5e cabling.

Improvise. Adapt, Overcome.

Here is why I do not have my nice Panduit, or Jameson's anymore.

i.e. Tornadoes, and with more storms approaching.
We needed a battery, and the owner of the vehicle crushed and totaled gave persmisson for us to take thier battery.

The equipment needing a battery had been hit by debris, and that battery was literally hanging by the Neg battery cable.

I used my Panduits, to cut jumper cable to make a field expedient battery cable splice.
I cut through jumper cables, twisted the wires together, cut a garden hose in half, then slit it to cover this "splice" and electrical tape and surgical tape was used to wrap this.


My bandage scissors (see other thread) were tossed to others for seat belt, and first aid uses, and whatever else.

My spare pair of electrician scissors, [Jameson] were handed to someone else, and she used them to cut chicken wire, and heavier gauge fence...

I was using mine to cut screens off windows and doors and and using rocks, bricks, whatever to bust a window to gain access.

My leather sheath was used for a field expedient "splint" for a hand/finger injury using cellophane tape.

Serious situation, and one does what needs doing, fast, and we only had minimal tools.

Panduit and Jameson were left on scene as help arrived.
First Responders showed up, and best guess my electrical scissors, and other items, were left with victims, or given to First Responders.
Not important, as me and mine had other roles to do.


I only share that to give a real idea what a serious situation can be like.
I am nobody, and just was there with like kind.

Point is, while we have nice knives, and other tools that are truly good tools; we also have some over-hyped tools being marketed.

Some serious tools for serious situations include those tools designed for tasks such as bandage scissors, and electrician's scissors.

Electrician scissors are not "inexpensive" , they are top notch quality tools.
I forget, still I want to say Panduit ran me about $40, the Jameson about $30.

Do not scrimp on these electrician scissors, as I have used other brands, and while they worked, they were not the quality of other brands.

One may never get into a serious situation with these scissors, still if one does "better to have it and not need it, that to need it and not have it" adage applies to having a pair, and a good pair at that.


Get a quality sheath!
I prefer leather, and mine were.
Still the full flap is a good one, both for not losing, and for safety reasons.


Steve
 
Think out of the box.

-One may find themselves in setting where weapons are not allowed.
Knowing what a pair of electricians are, and how sharp they are, might be a useful tool in staying safe.

-One might need to keep a quality knife preserved, for tasks a knife is better at doing than scissors.
Therefore using electrician scissors, bandage scissors, sewing scissors, and even plain old scissors for a task, might be best for primary cutting duties.

-Fact is, electrician scissors are going to be better at some cutting tasks than a knife.

I don't want folks to get fixated on "knife" as being a Magic Talisman.
Just as I don't want folks getting fixated on "gun" or any other physical item as a Magic Talisman.

Folks are often impeded by fixation.
 
I've got a nice pair that I like, and I have them simply because my dad had a nice pair in his "ready kit". Handy for all sorts of stuff. Anything I need once or twice will make it to the "ready kit," and anything I need more than weekly stays on my person.
 
snips

I'm actually surprised these have come up as a topic.

Being in the Technology/Communications industry these are commonly known as "snips". I don't know the background of why they are called such except for the possibility that they are used to snip wire. We have many funny names that have become common place for our tools. For example the "butt" set is that funny looking telephone you see hanging from your local telephone providers tool belt. The name possibly came from the common practice of telephone techs butting in on peoples conversations from the phone room :uhoh:.

I would have to definately agree with SM that these are a very important tool. Traditional scissors lack the strength these do when snipping through a 25 pair cable (think car battery cable, almost). They retain their edge, have those handy wire strippers on the dull side and you can carry them into public as they look just like scissors :).

The main carry is in a sheath that could also hold a spilcers knife which is a very excellant tool in it's own right. There are also sheaths made to carry both snips and a punch down tool (weird looking handle with a hollow sqaure bit about 1 1/2 inch long) which is instrumental in my line of work.

There have been many "improvements" to snips recently for ergonomics and other specialty niches. However most of those that have been in this business for some time like to work with the classics. They just work for us better, kinda like that old sod buster I keep hearing about :neener:.

I would definately recommend these as a must have cutting tool. Far too often when I just have a knife with me I go to grab my snips from a sheath that was left at home.
 
packarat,

Snips is what we called them.
Just for the test sponsored by Panduit, the correct answer was "electrician's scissors".

Snips we were told comes from the fact folks have and will continue to snip off tips of fingers or snip off other parts of themselves or others.

Like I warned about, these suckers are sharp!

Now...<whistle and looks away> folks ask about being safe and "improvised" tools or "expedient" tools.

If one has a legit reason, such as one in the business that does IT, VDC, Phone, or any other Electrical work, they know these scissors are "useful"

As are the skinning knife and even a punch down tool.

My sharing is again to educate folks to pay attention to surroundings and if they know what these scissors, skinning knife, and punch down tool are, and a situation comes up, they too are able to use these effectively.

i.e No Weapons setting, and shots fired, and the Electrician is shot dead with that sheath on his/her belt.
If one were to get that sheath, they are armed to assist in evading , and evacuating this situation.

They may not be able to get to a gun, on the dead Security Guard, as that would expose them to danger...
The sheath with scissors might be the best tool they can get to safely.


Think out of the box...
 
Dude, I get you...

Just got excited that I actually had some experience with one of your posts.

Going back to lurking...:D
 
Morbid as it is, there is credence to the belief of equipping one's self for the task of "trading up."

From We Were Soldiers:

Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Seen the new rifles too, the M-16.
Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: That's supposed to be a pretty good weapon.
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Ahh, lotsa plastic. Feels like a BB gun to me. Believe I'm gonna stick with my pistol. (Holds up 1911A1)
Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: Think we're gonna get close enough to the enemy to use that?
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: What do you think, sir?
Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: I think you oughta get yourself an M-16.
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Sir, if the time comes I need one, there'll be plenty lying on the ground.
 
Once again Steve is on the mark. Bro, you really need to write a book.

When I was a field engineer, we called them "man shears." ;)

And the reason I've heard for the name of "butt set" is that when you carry it clipped to the back your tool belt, it bangs against your butt.
 
I love snips. I've only used Klein and Ideal brands, but you can use them in ALMOST as many situations as you can a multi-tool. I've cut through a 100 pair cable with just snips before...lotta wrenching back and forth, but they'll do the job.

The edges on the ones I've used have serrated edges. The cheapo pair I have at the moment are Ideal and they have a very coarse serration, which I do not recommend, the coarse serration is only really good for big stuff. The fine serration, with the right tension on the blades will cut through a dang penny if you wanted to.

I wouldn't recommend using them for cutting a lot of paper though, it'll cut it just fine, but paper dulls edges fast; strangely enough, copper doesn't.
 
Yep, got a pair here I have had for years,, I got mine from Bell Telephone repairman,, Good tool,, used it primarily for network cabling,, but also for Black Power shooting to trim off patches.. Great tool.
 
The stripper notches are certainly better for stripping wire than using your teeth. 22ga solid copper wire can give nasty cuts to your gums. Don't say you've never done it.
 
Alright... I'm a convert.

Picked up a pair of Kleins this morning, and they are going in my Maxpedition EDC bag.

These are NOT your 3-year-old's art scissors. Wow.
 
Kleins

No Greenlees at the local store.

Got Kleins.

Wife thinks I've slipped a cog.

But, hey, I paid more for a set of Tweezerman tweezers. Them's all sharp and pointy, and just the ticket for them little hairs what grow back in on theyselves.

At least the scissors are unapologetically manly.

:D

Oh, and yes, I am a geek. I'm gonna hafta invent a geek belt. Carpenters have a tool belt for all kinds of heavy, long, clanky things. We geeks need a belt for more refined clanky things.

Geek load-out: Leatherman, Klein scissors, sodbuster or medium stockman, flashlight, precision screwdrivers, compact multimeter, small side cutters, chip puller, tweezers, forceps/clamp, allen wrenches, small adjustable wrench. And anything else that sounds like it belongs there.
 
Arf,

Get the wife a pair of shell fish pliers, like restaurants have for cracking lobster, and crabs.

Now, when she cracks the shell, and starts to grunt cutting the shell with the scissors...

I assure you the electrician scissors will zip right through that shell.

*blink*

She will no longer think you have slipped a cog.
Oh I'd fix an old lamp cord later on, just to show how well the electrician's scissors cut a new cord.

Plan on buying the wife a pair of electrician's scissors.
If you don't she will steal yours.
 
Kleins are excellent, and if you use the correct way of holding them, index finger through bottom hole, palm the top and squeeze, (thumb tends to go numb if you use them like normal scissors) that *click* sound when the handles meet lets you know you got a good cut on....whatever it is you're cutting :D
 
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