Target shooters start Yosemite fires?

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Fire roars toward 2,000 homes near Yosemite

MIDPINES, Calif. - A fast-spreading fire burning near an entrance to Yosemite National Park forced the evacuations of 170 homes and caused officials to cut power to the park.

The fire grew from about 1 1/2 square miles to 25 square miles on Saturday, and was threatening about 2,000 homes, said Daniel Berlant, a spokesman for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

Officials told NBC News early Sunday that 18,000 acres had burned and that authorities were struggling to determine the extent of structural damage in the area because the fire was "out of control".

About 900 firefighters battled the blaze that burned on both sides of a steep, rugged canyon along the Merced River.

Most of the evacuated homes are in the town of Midpines, located along Highway 140, the thoroughfare that leads to the west entrance of Yosemite National Park.

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State fire spokeswoman Karen Guillemin said the cause of the fire, dubbed the Telegraph Fire, "is definitely target shooting," but would not elaborate.
 
I guess arnold will be outlawing target shooting in California. And possession of targets, target ammo, and target shooters.
 
Unless they were shooting tracers, I can't see this happening from the shots. Maybe the target shooter were smoking and tossed a butt??
 
Actually, if conditions are dry enough, muzzle blast (shooting rifle in the prone position) or brass can start a fire. (Happened here in Texas a couple of years ago.) As dry as things are in my area, I would take a fire extinguisher with me if I did any outdoors shooting.
 
a friend of mine made up a Remington XP-100 in 308 Winchester. his favorite load was using Ball-C powder. when shooting creedmore with it the muzzle flash was very big and could definitely start a fire if the conditions were very dry. of course non of this rules out the fact that the shooters (if it can be proved to be the fault) just didn't throw a cigarette butt on the ground
 
This is crap... Terrorists are the ones starting the fires. Terrorists groups have been urging since 2007 to start fires in fire prone areas and we know that most of these fires have been deliberatly set.
 
Lightning causes about 80% of the fires in Montana.

We get a big thunderstorm roll through in the afternoon/evening, then we are chasing smoke and fighting fires the next day or two or three or more.

If it's real dry like it was last summer, then we have major fires rolling by the time it gets dark.
 
All our ranges and Federal BLM land close down either completely or during afternoon hours due to fire danger. This year the last appreciable rain was in the beginning of April. Temps run 95-115 all summer long. Before this policy we had too many fires started as a result of shooting targets or plinking.
Some basic common sense always helps when it comes to gun safety including fire danger.


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Target shooting blamed
State fire spokeswoman Karen Guillemin said the cause of the fire, dubbed the Telegraph Fire, "is definitely target shooting," but would not elaborate.
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That tells me a lot ! I'll believe that BS when I see the evidence !

Is shooting allowed in the park ?
 
I'd like to hear his evidence that target shooting caused the fires too. I'm not saying it couldn't, I'd just like him to "elaborate."
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Target shooting blamed
State fire spokeswoman Karen Guillemin said the cause of the fire, dubbed the Telegraph Fire, "is definitely target shooting," but would not elaborate.




Where's the proof? This is a bunch of BS. Of course they won't say anything they don't want to admit they might be or could be wrong?


That tells me a lot ! I'll believe that BS when I see the evidence !


Yes, where's the evidence. Did they see anyone out there shooting? Is shooting allowed in the park? Were there any witness to verify this? Give me a break. What a bunch of crap.
 
Is shooting allowed in the park ?
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Of course not. It's a National Park. Guns are banned. Nobody takes guns into a National Park. Logic dictates that this was not started by a gun, because there are no guns in National Parks...
 
Steel cored ammo has been known to start fires in burms at shooting ranges, its one of the main reasons why alot of ranges out west don't allow it.

With how dry every thing in CA is right now, a big fart could set then entire state on fire.
 
We had to shut down an NRA sporting rifle match to put out a fire several years ago. The shooter was using Talon reloaded .30/06 ball ammo and either they mismarked a box of tracers, got some tracers mixed with the FMJ bullets or the steel jacketed ball struck a rock and created enough sparks for combustion.

I've also seen sparks fly off of rocks while shooting my Yugo SKS in a Limestone Quarry at dusk.
 
Steel cored ammo has been known to start fires in burms at shooting ranges, its one of the main reasons why alot of ranges out west don't allow it.
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Um, I don't think so. Steel core ammo is AP ammo and it is very hard on the range hardware, penetrating everything including steel targets...and ruining them.

I believe you are thinking about tracer ammo that starts fires in berms (actually in the foliage on the berms).
 
steal core is not always AP. some miltarys use it as a lead replacement, do to the fact its cheap.
 
Has anyone here ever had the opportunity to handle a rifle round right after firing? Or, have you seen what a rifle round--especially FMJ--does when it hits a rock of any size?

I guarantee you that the rounds from a rifle are hot enough to cause a fire.
 
Saw the clip on NBC nat'l news earlier this evening. According to the reporter, the fire was ignited by target shooters hitting rocks and causing sparks.

I doubt they speculated on this -- likely the shooters reported the fire.
 
Of course not. It's a National Park. Guns are banned. Nobody takes guns into a National Park. Logic dictates that this was not started by a gun, because there are no guns in National Parks...
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Telegraph Fire Burning Outside (West) of Yosemite National Park

The Telegraph Fire, located approximately 25 miles west of Yosemite National Park in the community of Midpines began on Friday, July 25. This fire has grown to 18,500 acres as of Sunday afternoon, July 27.
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The fire is not in the Park nor did it start in the park.
 
There was a study done some years back by a police department in SLC. Unless they were shooting incendiaries (ammo or targets) target shooting didn't start the fire. They couldn't get a fire started and they were trying, even tried pooring molten led directly on a pile of dry cheat grass.
 
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