Do you avoid certain states, because of their gun laws?

except fishing and hunting, ok we will leave out the first 2 excellent reasons.

(short non-classified list)

CC skiing (I'm to big and old for downhill)
snowshowing
mountain climbing
hiking
camping
kayaking
lake swimming
skinny dipping in the river
horseback riding (as opposed to horsefront riding, I guess.)
keeping a few critters
seeing the stars
bonfires
sitting on the front steps in my draws, plinking on the lawn
off roading
watching the Moose at the pond

That is enough for now, and it is all we are allowed to publicly admit, If I tell you any more, I gonna have to..........oh you know. What does the city have that we don't, besides delivery pizza?

While I don't avoid any state because of it's laws, I do avoid most cities, I don't need the aggravation, but if you like cities, well it kind of makes sense for you to live in one.

I has affected my choice of jobs as I relocated from one state to another and had a choice between 2 different states. I chose the job in the state that supported freedom.

There are places in "safe" states and "safe" cities I am smart enough to avoid as well. There are states I will NOT live in, but I will drive through and even visit. I avoided driving to/through D.C. for YEARS and thought I might just get away with ever setting foot in that place. It would have been a shame had I never gone. I went this past Memorial Day Weekend and saw the Viet Nam wall, met fellow vets, shed some tears, saw a friend, made some friends and will go back to honor some friends I never had the honor to make. The traffic and politicians and stupid laws there are the price I will pay for this privilege.

Let's see, I had won a trip to Dominican Republic that I switched to VA Beach for other reasons than not carrying a handgun... However, I am gld I will be able to carry in VA on my FL permit...

Let's say that made me feel better about the deal.

I refuse to visit our nations capitol till I can legally carry a firearm there.

At least at this point in my life. My FL,NH, and CT permits give me choices where I can go, and I hope we get a National Reciprocity bill someday as well.

Nope, can't think of any states I won't go. But I will make double-sure I'm not going to or through Massachussetts for ANY reason if I step out with a pistol on me. Vermont, Vermont is OK. And Maine and New York are both far enough away at current gas prices, to be safe from "an afternoon out." But Mass is still pretty close.

Oh, this reminds of a conversation out at Camp Perry a couple of years ago. Three of us from the NH State HP Rifle Team were sitting at dinner. A nice gentleman from Indiana comes over to us and says, "I didn't know you boys in the northeast had guns anymore." To which we said, "Massachussetts and New York aren't the whole place!"

What does the city have that we don't, besides delivery pizza?

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Good places to eat, clubs, bars, sporting events, cinema, concerts.

The only reason I crossed SoCal of my list of job locations (if it's my choice-not "here you are military orders") and retirement areas is their various rules/regs and taxes.
Other than that, I'll be willing to visit any state/city just to say I've been there. But moving to those places permanetely is out of the question.

I have and do avoid locations where there are restrictive gun laws, but not solely on that basis. There is usually a myriad of reasons of why such places should be avoided: they've got stifling, inefficient infrastructure and bureaucracy, they're usually dense urban areas, crime and traffic are very high, and the people you'll run into are typically unintelligent and/or bordering on crazy.

It's just a hastle, and it's usually simply cheaper to avoid these places in the long run than to visit them/move on through.

Now, for visiting family and the like, it's a worthwhile venture, but things like Disney Land? Please - they can go to Disney World.

What does the city have that we don't, besides delivery pizza?

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the question was what DON"T we have that the city does

Good places to eat, clubs, bars, sporting events, cinema, concerts.

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Do you really believe we don't have those things? Wow, you gots to get out more.

Not always. I have LIVED IN and been to many ANTI GUN states and to the District of Criminals as a kid, young lady, USN bride-Nam era, widow and middle aged remarried lady. East coast born and raised lady here. Transplant to the Great Lakes farm region - my late husband's home state. Transplant to Montana.

It depends on the situation.

I did move from a NO CCW-NO loaded gun in the vehicle farm/lake 'police state' to a fairly 'free state' as planned after my late husband died. We planned on moving out here anyway... his cremation ashes and I made it out here when I was 51 years old.

I would not CHOOSE to go to some places but if I HAD to go due to an emergency... I would follow through because of MY DUTY and MY LOVE to help my older sister, my older brother and/or a super close FRIEND. Been there - done that for many long drives from the Great Lakes region to the east coast along with FLYING. I would go to a special EVENT if I REALLY wanted to attend it along with the National Parks that I visit with my 'pass'. Same with museums, an art gallery, a concert, etc.

Sometimes... you do your MORAL DUTY, DO what you HAVE to do even when you don't WANT TO for other reasons... your own self defense. YOU put others before yourself because of a moral obligation, the 'Golden Rule' and because of a thing called LOVE and RESPECT. That is when you travel to gun control towns and states. Sometimes you are stuck in a gun CONTROL Rino or Dem state due to a job or your loved ones LIVE/WORK there so you have to DEAL with IT... gun control nazis and all. NO offense.

Yours in liberty,

Catherine

I lived in California for 13 years. I left for Japan in 1998, and when I came back in 2000, SB23 had passed. So, this Sailor (and 5 AR-15 rifle owner) will never take orders to that state again.

Do you really believe we don't have those things? Wow, you gots to get out more.

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So you're saying Vermont's night life is compareable to South Beach or The Bay or Deep Ellum in Dallas?

Somehow I doubt it

To make this somewhat gun related, rural places generally are better in respect to their gun laws. But thats about all rural places have going for them.

keep in mind that more places to do things doesnt nessecarilly equal better places to do things. Also, MANY people could care less about "clubs, bars, sporting events, cinema, concerts" etc, and you dont need a big city to find good food either. Some people like the big (or any) city life/entertainment, some dont. just personal preferance, neither is "better".

For me, a city offers nothing of special interest, but lots of negative aspects.I have lived in cities as big as Atlanta, Detroit, and San Diego, and have lived in the boonies. I prefer the boonies, and find myself plenty entertained there.

There are LOTS of places I wont live or visit for LOTS of reasons, and gun laws is but one factor.Mainly it's because there is nothing special for me about 99.9999% of the places in the world, so no reason for me to go.

YMMV

I avoid South Carolina because their laws state that it is illegal to transport a firearm across state lines into their state unless it is unloaded, and in the trunk.

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Stevereno,you must be thinking about South Africa!
The Palmetto State not only allows you to carry in the passenger compartment but also loaded as long as it's in an unlocked glove box or console.You just can't carry concealed outside your vehicle, EXCEPT your good at any lodging once you've paid for the room.
Then you can legally carry your piece from the car to your lodgement.
See,its not so bad.
We do have something in common.I can't stand Steve Spurrier either and Walmart is my favorite store.
Now load up and cross the border.
Go Dawgs!(except against the Gators)

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Living in California I get more than my fill of having the government treat me like trash, I’m certainly not going to put up with it on vacation. I only go to free states.

One sorry thing that always seems to come up in this type of thread- poorly veiled, snotty comments about ‘guns not being the most important thing in my life’… missing the point completely. It’s not about guns, it’s about not going where people despise you…and make no mistake, the gun-owner-hating politicians in California, Massachusetts, New York City, Chicago, et al. serve at the pleasure of the electorate… the bulk of the people in those places would be very pleased to see you tossed in jail, anally gang-raped, and then stomped to death as punishment for carrying a gun for self-defense. If those are the kind of people you want to hang out with, well….whatever it takes to make you feel cosmopolitan, I guess.

Won't stop intentionally or spend money but there are times where you just can't avoid going to or through a place that hasn't seen the light.

C

I used to avoid Ohio until they changed their stupid laws. Now I avoid it because they are Buckeye fans!

I have family out in Cali, and last summer while at the beach, I had one of my cousins from Cali try to tell me I should move out there to live. I told her she was out of her mind. I told her that I have a business to run out here and I can't just drop what I'm doing and move out. Me and my buddy have both put quite a bit of money into it and it wouldn't be a fair to him to just say "hey man, I'm moving to the west coast, its been good". Secondly, I happen to like my guns. Several of which I can't even own where you live, so that would be NO.

Her response: Well, I guess you've got your priorities in order.

Of course. New York, Illinois, Maryland, and New Jersey are not even on the map. Neither is Washington, DC: we've heard rumors that such a place exists but we think it's probably like the fabled place known as "Chicago"--yet another myth in which only the credulous believe.

Hard as it might be for some to believe, life is worthwhile and rewarding without such places.

I live in one of those places:banghead:
the city is great if you dont mind spending $100 for a night on the town but I'll take the country the great thing about the country is that you actually get to KNOW people you go to parties, bonfires, pigroasts(drool) in a small town $50 will get you a nice meal ,a movie and still have money left over for a night at the bar and the gas to get around with

Hard as it might be for some to believe, life is worthwhile and rewarding without such places.

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My experience, especially in the case of Chicago, is that their repressive gun control laws are a symptom of a general philosophy of life.

I used to at least enjoy eating out when I visited Chicago. That's completely over now that virtually EVERY neighborhood near some place to eat on the North side is "permit parking" only. And on my last couple of visits, I've discovered that this is spreading to the South side. It simply isn't worth it to me to pay more to park than to eat.

This year you can't apparently go to ANY large public event without seeing somebody get shot... which seems odd considering how "effective" Daley claims their gun ban is. When the police department isn't committing crimes itself, it's sitting around with its thumb up its nose watching other people commit crimes.

When I talk to the people, they seem more alien to me than the North Koreans I saw on the DMZ. At least the North Koreans have the excuse that they're locked in and only have one source of information. Chicagoans don't have that excuse... at least not yet. Not only do they not see out of control corruption, theft, violence and police criminality as out of the ordinary, they simply CANNOT believe that those things aren't the norm everywhere else. When I told my mother I'd seen a drug transaction in broad daylight in front of her apartment in Chicago, she simply wouldn't believe that that wasn't common EVERYWHERE.

There's a way of life in places like that. It's a way of life I live in Ohio to AVOID because I utterly reject it as alien to my values. Why I'd want to put up with that and spend a lot of money for the "privilege" just escapes me.

Have some fairly well removed realtives in California (mom's third cousin, Mrs. Foggy's sis-in-law), but no, I am not planning a trip out there in say the next 50 years or so.

My oldest brother used to work in Chikago, lived in the 'burbs{Napierville, IIRC}. Moved to KC, KS about 18-20 years back. Said he was very happy to live in the United Free States of America again.

I would really love to see a baseball game in Fenway Park (Not a red sox fan, though). That park has soooo much baseball history, but untill it moves out of Boston, Mass....I say A.H. Ain't Happening.

I try not to go the anti-gun states, but sometimes I have to for work. However, I refuse to live in a state with bad gun laws. My company tried to move me to CA three times and I said Hell NO!

I refuse to live in an anti-gun state, but that does not mean I won't travel there. Having said that, I do prefer to stay in states that honor my license or at least allow me to keep a gun in the car.

Yes, however I haven't been out of NC and its surrounding states in years, so it just sort of happened without any effort on my part.