Can you trust this candidate...

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Drgong

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I am in a bit of a bind, as my current Representative to congress has displeased me on a number of reasons, but anyways, I passed on a email to the person running vs. her, and this is what I got.

What is your view on gun ownership?

Roy Carter has spoken about Gun Ownership and Gun Safety in many public forums. As a responsible gun owner and hunter himself, Roy Carter understands that our government must work with local authorities and gun owners to increase gun-safety programs and keep weapons out of the hands of those who may misuse them. While doing so, our nation should do everything within its power to uphold communal and individual freedoms. It is the role of government to protect those freedoms, not to take them away. While the freedom to own weapons for hunting and protection must be upheld, according to the constitution, we should also uphold our constitutional duty to protect citizens from the misuse of those weapons.

Do you think it is safe to vote for this guy?
 
Judging only from that statement, NO.

Too much double-talk.... or talking out of both sides of his mouth, or attempting to appease both sides.
 
That, my friend, is 100% pure political double-talk for someone who supports gun control but isn't man enough to admit it publicly.
 
Fair amount of double talk, so need more info, like his actual record. But on the whole, I'd say yes, that's a mostly pro-gun candidate.
 
While the freedom to own weapons for hunting and protection must be upheld, according to the constitution, we should also uphold our constitutional duty to protect citizens from the misuse of those weapons.
Sounds suspiciously like “reasonable restrictions” to me. :barf:
 
Unless he's talking about disarming the government, which I doubt, then he's talking about disarming YOU.:what:
 
That what I was afraid of, getting the sense that while he won't attack walnut and blued steel guns, "EBRs" would be fair game for him.

Sad thing is that I have decide in this case of a pretty pro gun one who sucks on other matters, and this guy....

I don't think he ran for office before so he does not have much of a record....
 
It is the role of government to protect those freedoms, not to take them away. While the freedom to own cell phones for enjoyment and privacy must be upheld, according to the constitution, we should also uphold our constitutional duty to protect citizens from the misuse of those phone communications by terrorists.

I find it easier to undstand when I put things in similar context. If I had actually said those above lines, would anyone bet I would support wireless phone taps while saying I respect your privacy? Its the same thing IMHO.
 
It probably doesn't matter what his views are on gun control. If he's elected, as a freshman congressman he'll vote however Nancy Pelosi tells him to vote. When you're new to Congress, you do whatever it takes to keep the party bosses happy.
 
Well I am glad that my "BS meter" is still ticking ;)

Might have to vote libertarian on the house seat it looks like, as the challenger is fishy on guns, and the current one is fishy on handing out warrant less wiretaps.
 
If they take your guns and therefore your ability to defend yourself, those "other matters" aren't going to matter much.
 
If they take your guns and therefore your ability to defend yourself, those "other matters" aren't going to matter much.
If you give up all the other things you value to protect your guns, what good are the guns? If they can't even protect themselves from legislation what good are they?
 
While doing so, our nation should do everything within its power to uphold communal and individual freedoms.

While the freedom to own weapons for hunting and protection must be upheld, according to the constitution, we should also uphold our constitutional duty to protect citizens from the misuse of those weapons.

Yep, as others stated, too much double speak. I would perhaps look at your other candidates.
 
Drgong said:
Do you think it is safe to vote for this guy?
Nope. That response includes all the buzz words that I view as clues the speaker (writer) is a gun grabber trying to appear "balanced."

However, there is no "balance" to be attained. The 2nd Amendment says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Period. It says nothing about protecting us from people who might (or might not) use their firearms irresponsibly. We can enact penalties for irresponsible as well as criminal use of firearms, but to "reasonably restrict" or "regulate" them because a few people might misuse them is prior restraint.

His statement went too far: "It is the role of government to protect those freedoms, not to take them away. While the freedom to own weapons for hunting and protection must be upheld, according to the constitution,"

He should have stopped there. But he didn't:

" ... we should also uphold our constitutional duty to protect citizens from the misuse of those weapons."

WHAT constitutional duty to protect citizens from the misuse of those weapons? I've read the Constitution. I can't recall anything in said document about protecting the People from the misuse of Constitutionally-protected arms.
 
What is a "communal freedom"? Sounds a bit too close to "collective right" for me. You know, that little lie that the Second Amendment is to protect the right of the state to raise a militia?

There is no such thing as a "communal freedom". People have rights. The government has powers. Powers can be removed and granted, rights cannot. Sounds to me like this guy does not realize the distinction.

Oh, and one more thing. When someone speaks of hunting when asked about our right to bear arms is someone that doesn't get it. That is a huge flag I look for. The second amendment is not about hunting.
 
If you give up all the other things you value to protect your guns, what good are the guns? If they can't even protect themselves from legislation what good are they?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you glance around a little before you answer 12e on the 4473.
 
If you give up all the other things you value to protect your guns, what good are the guns? If they can't even protect themselves from legislation what good are they?

thats actually a valid question.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you glance around a little before you answer 12e on the 4473.
I'm sure you think you're being terribly clever but it was a serious question and I would be more likely to think you're a clever fellow if you provided an actual intellectual response and didn't just imply I was a drug user. People love to come on the internet and thump their chests about using their guns to defend their freedoms but if you give up those freedoms to keep your guns, is there a benefit?
 
There's always something to grouch about with a candidate.

So don't vote for them.

Vote third party.

Or vote for our candidate. You'll feel good about it. After all, that other guy wasn't perfect.

Sincerely,

The Democratic Party
Now hand them over
 
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